Astronomy / Space NASA changing names of planets and other heavenly bodies.

[Crank Larson]

What skin off of your nose does it matter if a planet name gets changed? How does that impact your life? What are you losing by it?

It doesn't. I object to pandering to snowflake requests.

Edit: And that argument can easily be turned round. What does it matter what it's called? Why should someone who takes umbrage at something for no reason cause many others work to have to update data, star charts, etc.?

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

I object to pandering to snowflake requests.

It offends you?

who takes umbrage at something for no reason

No reason, in your opinion.

cause many others work to have to update data, star charts, etc.?

Ah, you’re worried for other people. ‘Some’ other people.

What you’re demonstrating is a hypocritical view. You’re allowed to be offended but others are not because you consider your reasons valid and theirs not.

It’s only a name, cool your boots.

 

[AkenBosch]

You wouldn't believe it but the same poopoo is happening in the software development industry as well - apparently people are very offended that some programming languages use the terms "master" and "slave" and demand that they are changed to something "not so offensive". It's amusing at this point.

Oh I know, just the other day I was recovering an old IDE machine with a boot issue, then I noticed the jumper was on the wrong position and both drives were set on "strong", I moved the second to "independent" and it started working again.

I can totally support the reasoning behind this so long due changes, Mexicans have always been so fervently offended by people calling M104 the Sombrero Galaxy.

 

[Deleted member 257907]

You are arguing it's just a name but Uranus is not just a name it's the butt of a joke.

 

[Factabulous]

Anyway - thanks for the reminder - I meant to raise an issue last night but it was late

https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/18699

 

[Hopix]

You wouldn't believe it but the same poopoo is happening in the software development industry as well - apparently people are very offended that some programming languages use the terms "master" and "slave" and demand that they are changed to something "not so offensive". It's amusing at this point.

It'd be amusing if it didn't set such a dark precedent for the future.

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

 

[Alien]

In before the swap to OT!

Hmmmmm

 

[Crank Larson]

It offends you?



No reason, in your opinion.



Ah, you’re worried for other people. ‘Some’ other people.

What you’re demonstrating is a hypocritical view. You’re allowed to be offended but others are not because you consider your reasons valid and theirs not.

It’s only a name, cool your boots.

If you say so. It's not me claiming to be offended.

It'd be amusing if it didn't set such a dark precedent for the future.

And this is my concern. People seem to be afraid of truth these days. Life is harsh. Blanking out the bad bits does no-one any favours.

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

It you say so. It's not me claiming to be offended.

No but it clearly upsets you.

 

[Crank Larson]

No but it clearly upsets you.

Really? You clearly have shortcomings in your assessment of other people.

 

[Mimix]

Personally, I do not find the terms offensive to me, I acknowledge they may be offensive to someone else. If your argument against changing the name is ‘it’s only a word’, then what do you care if they swap it out for another?

If you think people are silly for getting upset about a name then look how upset you are when they change it.

When I say you, I mean the general you, not a specific person in this thread.

Wiping history and removing anything that's even slightly related to racism and slavery isn't going to help put an end to injustice. Being Irish I have never found someone non-Irish who used the word "Mick" insulting, despite it being an offensive term used by Americans in the 19th and early 20th centuries to call Irish immigrants, because it's obviously not used as an insult. So isn't a planet name or a term in programming languages. I'm sure neither NASA nor the Python Foundation used certain terms specifically to offend someone.

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

Really? You clearly have shortcomings in your assessment of other people.

At the very least, you have strong feelings about someone else’s feelings.

Keep your winky face, it’s not serving you well

 

[Crank Larson]

At the very least, you have strong feelings about someone else’s feelings.

Keep your winky face, it’s not serving you well

I'm just wondering when you're going to go back to discussing the subject instead of failing to pschoanalyse me. Here, have another one.

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

Wiping history and removing anything that's even slightly related to racism and slavery isn't going to help put an end to injustice. Being Irish I have never found someone non-Irish who used the word "Mick" insulting, despite it being an offensive term used by Americans in the 19th and early 20th centuries to call Irish immigrants, because it's obviously not used as an insult. So isn't a planet name or a term in programming languages. I'm sure neither NASA nor the Python Foundation used certain terms specifically to offend someone.

Well, good for you but you don’t get to determine that for all Irish, just you. Same as you don’t get to determine what offends other people.

Generally in life, if someone says they find something offensive, I steer clear of it, not through fear but respect. If we all just respected each other more, the world would be a better place.

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

I'm just wondering when you're going to go back to discussing the subject instead of failing to pschoanalyse me. Here, have another one.

Ah yes, the subject, someone else finds a term offensive, others agree to change it and you’re upset.

 

[znôrt]

Personally, I do not find the terms offensive to me, I acknowledge they may be offensive to someone else.

which is the whole point. and i wouldn't have proposed these changes, but once someone did i reckon there is no valid counter-argument to be made, not even the obvious amount of hypocrisy and gullibility involved. but no worries, our cultural landscape will not run out of offending word constructs, and i expect we will keep doing nasty things to each other that don't even have offensive names yet for quite a bit of time.

 

[Hopix]

Ah yes, the subject, someone else finds a term offensive, others agree to change it and you’re upset.

Because we didn't all agree to it. And like I said, it's a dark path to go down.

 

[nafnist]

PC Universe

 

[Deleted member 257907]

PC Universe

Elite: Virtuous

 

[Mimix]

Well, good for you but you don’t get to determine that for all Irish, just you. Same as you don’t get to determine what offends other people.

Generally in life, if someone says they find something offensive, I steer clear of it, not through fear but respect. If we all just respected each other more, the world would be a better place.

So according to your logic most of the English language is offensive. Words like tool, pig, goat, etc should all banned and anyone using them labeled "disrespectful" because those words can be used as insults and someone can get offended. Am I correct?