Elite Dangerous: Odyssey | The Road To Odyssey Part 1 - One Giant Leap

Nobody is claiming you do not feel it immersive. My claim is simply that VR is more immersive and, having tried both, the flatscreen immersion pales in comparison.
TBH using the same word to describe both doesn't do justice to the difference between what VR does and what 1st person view on a monitor does. It's not different magnitudes of the same thing. It's just a different thing entirely. I like the word "immersive" and I think in a literal sense it's very descriptive of what VR does, but decades of use and marketing speech for products that are anything but have inflated the word to a point where it hardly means anything.

"Presence" is another word that has gotten hold in recent years when describing the literalistic, encapsulating sense of "being there" that VR gives you, perhaps we should use that instead, as "immersion" kind of gives people the wrong idea.
 
You cannot understand how immersive is ED with VR if you have not tested it.... It is actually the only game VR worthy.
 
sounds like a win to me. if i'm on an ignore list i wont get replies like this :D

well played.

Forum users are not in a position to make changes, the develoeprs are. what does it matter if you ignore me?

what makes you think developers don't ignore you too?

anyway, i see you're in the streaming business. there's your opportunity to do some viral stuff, get people riled up (that's what social networks are for, it seems). influencers have, at the very least, managed to get frontier's attention in the past. however, this forum is a closed garden, what is said on the forum stays and rots in the forum, the rest of the world doesn't care and doesn't even know. any amount of criticism or activism you make here is just wasted energy, unless you find some weird pleasure in triggering whiteknights. hey, i'm not going to judge! but even that is not going to work if they ignore you. :ROFLMAO:
 
I’ve played using an Xbox 360 wireless pad since the first Beta, continued once I moved into VR three years ago. Having played SubnauticaVR and the Alien: Isolation VR mod using the pad, I’d expect to continue controlling the game the same as our console brethren do.
Alien isolation in vr? I had panic attacks playing that in normal mode!
 
I expect free updates after Odyssey maybe for a year, and then on to the next expansion one year later. I never expected there to not be updates afterwards. Odyssey is still a single release. That's what we pay for, unlike horizons.

If there is anything else after for free, then see that as an added bonus.

People keep talking about walking around your ships, bit for what purpose? We can do everything from the cockpit anyway. I wouldn't mind some small parts of the interior done, but I'm not bothered about the cargos bays and stuff like that, what's the point? Just give me the cockpit/bridge, a crew quarters, the SRV bay and a way to exit with an area to decide on equipement when leaving the ship with corridors connecting them.

For the bigger ships, I would have a turbo lift to get you around to the different parts.

The rest is just unnecessary fluff.

I don't follow your logic. You also had to buy Horizons up front for the full prize and then got content updates over the next year(s). What you're describing would mean Odyssey is exactly the same, the only difference is that with Horizons Frontier told us in advance what the updates would include. If that's the case the term "single release" was an utter non-statement.

I won't answer the "for what?" question. It has been answered countless times already. What would be the point of space legs as Frontier have described them for now at all? We can do everything from the ship/SRV anyway.
 
Lol, it was obvious for EVERYBODY that can read with a level of understanding that walking in your ship will not be there. Moreover, they literally said that they need new paid DLC to gather funds to rewrite the game's code. So it's OBVIOUS they don't have means to give us an addition that fundamentally changes the gameplay, just expands what we already have. So - walking in a suit - another SRV but slower. More planets to walk on, that differ from airless planets by colored sky and almost nothing else (albeit prettier). Plants - new beacons to scan. DNA data - another iteration of discovery data. Honestly speaking, only social lobby will be something new. But that literally has no meaning for the game, it's just a minor snippet that FDev could code in one evening.

I am excited tho'. I don't care about space legs much, I care about the universe to explore IN A SPACESHIP, because it's a spaceship simulator, not RPG. And I'll get exactly that - new, prettier planets to fly above and ride/walk upon. What I really hope we get, is better multiplayer mode (with more exciting turret shooting - in 1st person) and it's compatility with wing system. As for lobby - I want one in my carrier because I want to be able to actually be IN my carrier and OUTSIDE the ship. I want more customisable NPCs. I want my NPCs to be able to fly my ships in a wing with me - I have 5 imp. eagles, goddamit! I want them to guard my carrier IN MY EAGLES that I personally engineered. And so forth.
 
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Hello, nice video, but why the "sexist" helmets ?
At around 1:06 the men's helmet has two vertical bars while the female one is round with one horizontal bar. Chest armor begin different I could get behind for "anatomical" reasons, but head and eyes and vision is vastly the same across all 2+ genders of humans, right ? So why do they present it like different genders with different helmets ? And don't go "they couldn't put two guys with variations helmet could they" because of course they could, and also keep one guy and show 4 variations, or put one black man and one white woman (or asian, or latino, or whatever floats your boat) and so on and so forth. but they show us one man, one woman, and the helmets look different.
Plus you get an "ingame" shot afterwards of a female outside of her SRV with what appears to be an imperial gun (white, curved, sleek) that has this exact same weird helmet. so why are women treated differently ?
No judgement or anything, don't want to offend anyone either, just wondering aloud.
Wow, just wow.
 
From what I can see in the video, this is suggestive of a traditional expansion pack for elite, with no attention paid to reworking the underlying core of the game. Given how overdue a code review is, that's deeply disappointing.

And no support for next-gen consoles (besides backward compatibility) is mystifying. Simply pushing all the sliders to PC ultra / 60fps would have been welcome.
 
I really can't understand why some people are so obsessed with walking inside your ship.
I have tried it in SC and it is not that great, on the contrary it is boring and to me it adds nothing to "immersion" whatever this word means for someone of you.
If I had a choice to skip all this and go directly into the ship cockpiit I would use it gladly.
 
I really can't understand why some people are so obsessed with walking inside your ship.
I have tried it in SC and it is not that great, on the contrary it is boring and to me it adds nothing to "immersion" whatever this word means for someone of you.
If I had a choice to skip all this and go directly into the ship cockpiit I would use it gladly.

I think some people are latching onto it and claiming that it shows that the expansion is "half @ssed". Given that this is looking like a traditional expansion similar to whats come before, then it doesnt suprise me in the slightest - I`d bet that in the current builds of Odyssey, that you "transition" onto the surface in a very similar way to how an SRV gets on the surface.
 
Just watched the video Yamiks put out. No ship interiors, no walking around starports and no support for the next gen conseles. This makes me wonder what the heck Fdev has been doing these past 2 and a half years. I was expecting a lot more from them given that amount of development time and developers they put on it.

Only thing to do now is to wait and see what the future dev dairies will hold and what we'll get from Odyssey.

The fact that they are still finalizing/considering most of the content regarding Odyssey is a bad sign IMHO if you ask me, and really makes me wonder what they have been doing all this time.

I hope they have a few aces up their sleeves to wow us and that'll account for the amount of development time they put in.
 
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