Elite Dangerous: Odyssey | The Road To Odyssey Part 1 - One Giant Leap

[Scoob101]

You can have a Yamiks rant after reading this quote from DB...

It must be nice living in a world where every promise ever made automatically comes true. Game development at this scale isnt so simplistic.

Its perfectly plausible that indeed yes, that was the intention (and the interiors were designed with that future in mind), and then as time passed the evolution of the game design shut the door on a seamless transition from chair to ship interior.

 

[Dooguk]

It must be nice living in a world where every promise ever made automatically comes true. Game development at this scale isnt so simplistic.

Its perfectly plausible that indeed yes, that was the intention (and the interiors were designed with that future in mind), and then as time passed the evolution of the game design shut the door on a seamless transition from chair to ship interior.

Why is the door shut on walking around ship interiors?

 

[[VR] Orodruin]

In order to have a seamless transition from chair to ground you would in essence have to make sure all ships have entrances reasonably close to the cockpit/bridge. If not, traversing the full length of a large ship just to get out would quickly become old.

Still, a fade to black transition does not necessarily mean you are teleported to the planetary surface. You ould just as well be transported to inside the airlock of your ship and manually have to open the door before stepping out.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

No, but you would think they should have been by now.

Possibly, but for what reason, what gameplay would we do. All repairs, engineering and synthesis can be done in the cockpit/bridge. There is very little use to do the internals.

The only things I'm interested in is the bridge, a crews quarters where you can have equipment and decide what to wear, the SRV bay and a way to leave the ship with corridors or lifts connecting them. The rest is just a waste of development.

 

[Scoob101]

Why is the door shut on walking around ship interiors?

Assuming you're not trolling, try re-reading the posts more carefully. You`ll quickly see I never said it was.

 

[Dooguk]

Possibly, but for what reason, what gameplay would we do. All repairs, engineering and synthesis can be done in the cockpit/bridge. There is very little use to do the internals.

The only things I'm interested in is the bridge, a crews quarters where you can have equipment and decide what to wear, the SRV bay and a way to leave the ship with corridors or lifts connecting them. The rest is just a waste of development.

See Star Citizen for a £300 million reasons why.

 

[Winterwalker]

Are you suggesting that there is something wrong with the Cobra engine that it cannot do FPS games after all these years?

I think you'll find there was an official Dev Diary on what you call an FPS, in the Cobra engine, this time yesterday.

 

[Dooguk]

Assuming you're not trolling, try re-reading the posts more carefully. You`ll quickly see I never said it was.

Oh!. Seamless transition. Ok. Why is the door shut on seamless transitions from chair to interior. My take is that it has not been in the game because they didn't have a character animation for it, because they didn't need it.

 

[Dooguk]

I think you'll find there was an official Dev Diary on what you call an FPS, in the Cobra engine, this time yesterday.

What?

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

I’d like to introduce a rule, you’re only allowed to say ‘it can’t be that hard’ if the same post contains an example of your attempt at doing the thing that ‘cant be that hard’.

 

[Captain N]

I think it's more likely they simply chose to prioritise walking outside your ship over walking inside your ship.
Not abandoning the latter entirely.

Both of them seem big enough features to be the headline of their own expansion.
Walking outside just seems it has more potential for the kind of open-ended, exploration/travel/combat/missions gameplay Elite is known for and presents a lower hanging fruit in terms of technological and game design challenges. Many of those challenges were already solved when the SRV's came out.

An example of a game design challenge would be, what would you actually do while inside your ship? I'm sure they could come up with something, but it certainly would be easier to answer the same question for the vast, expansive environments outside your ship.

Easier to do + higher potential = higher priority feature. Higher priority = they release it first.

Kind of like how VR, hopefully, is just a lower priority feature and they'll eventually get around to it.

As for why it's taking them long, well why they're a small indie company. If they're too destitute to afford to support VR, what makes you think they could release ship interiors and planet surfaces at the same time? Thankfully there are developers like Boundless Dynamics who march at the forefront of technology.

 

[Rubbernuke]

I just like to bask in the heat.

Indeed- its a dry heat!

 

[Winterwalker]

What?

Yeah. Mhm. Called Odyssey I believe. You ought to check it out.

Why is the door shut on seamless transitions from chair to interior .. snip .. they didn't need it.

Who's saying the door's shut?

You know how animation works yeah? (You never know) You can do the in-flight game play, then you can skip to the on-foot gameplay and add the transition drawings in when it suits you, if it suits you. It can be argued though that watching a character get in and out of a chair is like watching very slow paint drying. We don't have cut scenes for loading cargo either, probably because that wouldn't add anything to the game either. So the truth is we just don't know if FD plan an update on going for a space wee or not.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

See Star Citizen for a £300 million reasons why.

Looks like a reason not to have it to me.

 

[[PS4] Lorenzo Waringos]

Billions and billions of planets to explore and people are losing their minds about not being able to walk about in the back of their Transit Van. Refusing to buy the game in fact.

 

[Scoob101]

Why is the door shut on seamless transitions from chair to interior.

Who said it was? I simply floated a theory as to why there may be problems implementing that.

 

[Dooguk]

I’d like to introduce a rule, you’re only allowed to say ‘it can’t be that hard’ if the same post contains an example of your attempt at doing the thing that ‘cant be that hard’.

Maybe you can quote the post that makes you think you need this rule?

 

[Rubbernuke]

Billions and billions of planets to explore and people are losing their minds about not being able to walk about in the back of their Transit Van. Refusing to buy the game in fact.

Its annoying because there is a Twix in one of those cupboards.

 

[Dooguk]

Who said it was? I simply floated a theory as to why there may be problems implementing that.

Yes I get that, but since the Kickstarter David Braben has said he wants EVAs, space legs, walking around ships etc. He must know what the game engine is capable of.

 

[Scoob101]

Maybe you can quote the post that makes you think you need this rule?

The fora are littered with armchair developers proclaiming - as fact - how things are or should be and their relative difficulty to implement. There's nothing wrong with speculation, it's what these threads are for in part, but stating something as absolute fact when you haven't got a clue is unhelpful to the discussion.