So you are specifically targeting an individual or group and calling them out because they specifically call out individuals or groups?
Gotcha.
ETA this whole thread has just been trying to bait Spear members, hasn't it? Just trolling for bait.
Question for Open players who don't like PVP/ganking... help me understand
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So you are specifically targeting an individual or group and calling them out because they specifically call out individuals or groups?
Gotcha.
ETA this whole thread has just been trying to bait Spear members, hasn't it? Just trolling for bait.
Excellent crop of beans this year, the sheep ate my strawberries though.
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Classic evasion question, send me round in loops.
So what? You play your way, let them play theirs.
Not really.
Sheep will do that, they have an agenda.
I don't care about evasion or accusations of it. I try to answer questions directly.
What I do, if I don't like something (not taking responsibility in this case), is judge, and react. That is me playing my way
I'm OK with them having an agenda, I draw the line at strawberries.
Now colour it in red, for the strawberry.
Right, so you playing your way is to tell me to let them play their way but when someone else plays their way, your way is to call them out on it. Got it.I don't care about evasion or accusations of it. I try to answer questions directly.
What I do, if I don't like something (not taking responsibility in this case), is judge, and react. That is me playing my way
No that would be evidence of strawberry theft.
Exactly yes. Do what you like, and deal with the consequences.
Well, it seems a bit unfair to me, I have to let them play their way but you can call them out on it. Having said that, you've been on the forum far longer than me and probably understand the rules better.
It bears repeating that Elite Dangerous is, in fact, only a game. Likely one of many in our respective Steam / Playstation / XBox / whatever libraries.
It's also worth noting that forum PVP is a lot of fun. Don't pull our legs and try to convince us you're not having a good time, you'd have disappeared long ago if this didn't engage you on some level that you find satisfactory.
But on the main theme - the "failure to accept responsibility for actions" - I mean, that's a subject that we've discussed at length. It really does boil down to the question of what players expect and anticipate when they play the game in Open.
What are reasonable expectations? What is "the good", in other words, to borrow from ethical discourse?
In a game that markets itself using statements about it presenting a "cutthroat galaxy" in which "you'll need combat skills to survive" and "be ready to stand your ground and fight," what are reasonable expectations of players? What is a reasonable "taking responsibility for your actions" in such a context?
These are very reasonable questions and they speak to the heart of the matter being discussed in this thread: The contrast between expectation and reality in Elite's Open mode.
OK then, I guess I will have to learn a bit, to mop the floor with both of them at once...
And just to set the record straight, I was naming (almost, I did not disclose the full names), but not shaming, that I believe was obvious from my posts, that I did not take any offence in them griefing me and that I actually did accept the challenge...
Its just a videogame there are no consequences.
I find these kind of brainwashing threads to be an annoying waste of time, it is like I am talking to a bunch of people trying desperately to justify their mis-deeds instead of just owning it.
While complaining that Spear are trying desperately to justify their own mis-deeds instead of just owning it. Except I'm not really seeing any desparation from Spear, they do appear to be just owning it.
While complaining that Spear are trying desperately to justify their own mis-deeds instead of just owning it. Except I'm not really seeing any desparation from Spear, they do appear to be just owning it.
We were, if I recall, having a discussion about the various postures - let's call them that - that various groups have taken in-game.
I was replying to a comment made describing how some lawful groups choose to use the same tactics that outlaws use, but somehow feel they are different, because they're "good guys." I think i did a good job of illustrating with examples.
Which is itself providing a concrete example of a specific topic of discussion, as opposed to speaking in generalities. Not the same thing as targeting another group or individual, just providing an example to illustrate a statement.
This whole thread has not been about trolling. I've made that clear from the beginning, and I'm apparently required to reiterate that truth every few pages, for some reason.
If you are feeling trolled, I unfortunately do not accept responsibility. That is your own doing.
Totally not a problem! It's just the forum moderators come down on folks, we were honestly trying to look out for you. I am sure the individuals in question are completely OK with their notoriety levels both in-game and in-forumAnd just to set the record straight, I was naming (almost, I did not disclose the full names), but not shaming, that I believe was obvious from my posts, that I did not take any offence in them griefing me and that I actually did accept the challenge...