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Nope, not working. I will simply ignore... (ingame)
Call to Arms for a Free Colonia
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Because if you do then this entire series of posts since page 36 when Lekeno started posting is just a collosal waste of time. If this is Reapers position then why posture saying you want to negotiate when really you don't. Cut the crap guys. You're either for something or you're not. Catch you all later
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Anti Anarchy Axis
This is true, both sides have perceptions about the other that aren't correct, but any discussion would be easier for our opposition to start as it is their refusal to have a proper discussion about it is the stumbling block.
In the case of Explorers' Nation, you have part of their alliance that even went to the point of going back on a previous agreement. Making an agreement when people on the other side are known to breach them when convenient is a difficult thing to overcome.
I would suggest that the feeling now is any agreement would just be a cover for them to wait while bringing up greater numbers and attack again when we're not expecting it. Despite appearances in this thread, we are willing to go half way. Unfortunately we don't see any evidence that they have wanted anything other than us out of the nebula and to go back to the bubble- 'no new player groups in Colonia, please'. I look forward to someone proving me wrong in this.
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It goes some way, it doesn't really explain why random lawful, neutrals like me oppose them. I've never killed a CMDR in my life, I wouldn't trust SPEAR as far as I could jump from them.
Understandable and everything I say or comment is my impression / understanding and not a judgement unless I specify an opinion on it as such.
As an outsider I know Phisto is a relentless and ruthless ganker and unapologetic on the forums in many threads. I dont know Phisto outside of RP on the forums. I think LR got ganked in a BGS war. Same result for the explodee I know.
Clean as in not in BGS pmf or not a known ganker? Or just clean at that point in time? Or clean as in unaware and in the 'wrong' system without even knowing it?
tbf thats what happens in RL too. Thats usually how it plays out. Get stung by one wasp and kill the nest all the way up to war, political censor applied here
LR are an Anarchist RP group that could be said to 'shield' gankers, words chosen carefully hopefully carefully enough, give them a base of operations or safe haven. SPEAR are a RP lawful group. I know theres more to it and you could argue 'were' a RP lawful group but official statements haven't said they have deviated from their lawful RP (just they may be American movie cops who kill everyone in the block as a first resort, I'm not sure) I'm hoping it all makes sense at some point or what the Rules of Engagement are and whether 'justified' in RP terms but may never know. May just be 'You unlawfuls or shield them we lawfuls'.
I can see both sides and I say it again, its good for the game whatever happens as long as it remains RP and the thread stays open. ID posed a question some pages back about Lave and Allied lore v Lave Radio, that one I'm perfectly split on and I should be Allied all the way.
#Anarchysystemsmatter
is that so? well, this is not a pvp game proper. i know you know this because of your past comments about the mailslot blocking protest. and i don't think the few die hard pvpers still "in this game" (for some reason) are all involved in this conflict.
but maybe you could shed some light about what you are really trying to accomplish in this thread? because that's really puzzling. again, nothing personal, just looking at text appearing in very weird patterns. let's see:
- may 2019 account created, first post re raxxla
- june 2019 second post re anti cheat protest
- sept 2020 25 post streak in this thread for 2 weeks
these late 25 contributions:
- very polite and correct terms
- author presents himself as a neutral observer,
- author shows curiosity and inquires information about the conflict
- however, it transpires that author does have detailed information of his own about the conflict going back months
- author repeatedly appeals to good vibe, neutrality and appreciation of opponents
- however, there is systematic and subtle bias in favor of one party and against the other
to me this spells out plain and simple a carefully constructed intoxication operation. in other words, trolling with a purpose.
just to be clear, this is nothing personal, just an interpretation of events and manifestationas and i don't even consider it wrong. kudos for the effort. what really puzzles me is all the effort, instead of simply stating your position.
do you feel it is working?
Read their posts in this thread. Obviously not.
Understandable and everything I say or comment is my impression / understanding and not a judgement unless I specify an opinion on it as such.
As an outsider I know Phisto is a relentless and ruthless ganker and unapologetic on the forums in many threads. I dont know Phisto outside of RP on the forums. I think LR got ganked in a BGS war. Same result for the explodee I know.
Clean as in not in BGS pmf or not a known ganker? Or just clean at that point in time? Or clean as in unaware and in the 'wrong' system without even knowing it?
tbf thats what happens in RL too. Thats usually how it plays out. Get stung by one wasp and kill the nest all the way up to war, political censor applied here
LR are an Anarchist RP group that could be said to 'shield' gankers, words chosen carefully hopefully carefully enough, give them a base of operations or safe haven. SPEAR are a RP lawful group. I know theres more to it and you could argue 'were' a RP lawful group but official statements haven't said they have deviated from their lawful RP (just they may be American movie cops who kill everyone in the block as a first resort, I'm not sure) I'm hoping it all makes sense at some point or what the Rules of Engagement are and whether 'justified' in RP terms but may never know. May just be 'You unlawfuls or shield them we lawfuls'.
I can see both sides and I say it again, its good for the game whatever happens as long as it remains RP and the thread stays open. ID posed a question some pages back about Lave and Allied lore v Lave Radio, that one I'm perfectly split on and I should be Allied all the way.
Minor quibble: I'm ruthless and relentless, yes. But I'm much more than a ganker.
You might even think there are movement within the AAA. Maybe they are not as united as they want to make themselves. Im not going to claim to know this whole story, but I find it wierd that in about a month, EN has lost a lot of teritory to CIDE. I guess there is several individuals within AAA who actually want peace and to leave us alone and to atend their own business. Might even be the ones speaking now? I can only asume...
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Clean as in a seperate, neutral, clean (I'd love to say law-abiding - but lifetime bounties accrued may debate that - but always paid off) pilot known to be an alt of a 'dirty anarchist faction supporter' being pursued because of another CMDR?
However you roll the dice, if an alt account is known, yet clean, it may be considered a fair target by the AAA, just because the person behind the keyboard is the same...
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is that so? well, this is not a pvp game proper. i know you know this because of your past comments about the mailslot blocking protest. and i don't think the few die hard pvpers still "in this game" (for some reason) are all involved in this conflict.
but maybe you could shed some light about what you are really trying to accomplish in this thread? because that's really puzzling. again, nothing personal, just looking at text appearing in very weird patterns. let's see:
- may 2019 account created, first post re raxxla
- june 2019 second post re anti cheat protest
- sept 2020 25 post streak in this thread for 2 weeks
these late 25 contributions:
- very polite and correct terms
- author presents himself as a neutral observer,
- author shows curiosity and inquires information about the conflict
- however, it transpires that author does have detailed information of his own about the conflict going back months
- author repeatedly appeals to good vibe, neutrality and appreciation of opponents
- however, there is systematic and subtle bias in favor of one party and against the other
to me this spells out plain and simple a carefully constructed intoxication operation. in other words, trolling with a purpose.
just to be clear, this is nothing personal, just an interpretation of events and manifestationas and i don't even consider it wrong. kudos for the effort. what really puzzles me is all the effort, instead of simply stating your position.
do you feel it is working?
1. As to my forum history, I hate the forums. I think they are toxic AF. This thread is the first time I have ever felt interested in actually getting involved in the forums in any kind of meaningful discussion. This is great community content.
2. I never troll. I have posted my honest thoughts on this discussion. If your interpretation is as above then it is exactly that, YOUR interpretation. I'm not going to counter that except to say my words speak for themselves.
Referring back to 1., it is great content so long as both sides are actually contributing towards fun and not just talking out of their backsides. What I have seen this evening is people on Reapers side bleating about wanting to negotiate but then when I try to push that point, it became clear you really DON'T want to negotiate and are just engaging in the old discredited defence of "they made me do it". That's pathetic and if you want to talk about trolling, that's exactly what that is.
So frankly, for the rest of this evening I'm not engaging with this anymore. you guys have fun with this little echo chamber because that's all this is really isn't it? AAA don't post here. It's one side plus a few neutrals who get shot down if they don't say what you like.
Headshotis that so? well, this is not a pvp game proper. i know you know this because of your past comments about the mailslot blocking protest. and i don't think the few die hard pvpers still "in this game" (for some reason) are all involved in this conflict.
but maybe you could shed some light about what you are really trying to accomplish in this thread? because that's really puzzling. again, nothing personal, just looking at text appearing in very weird patterns. let's see:
- may 2019 account created, first post re raxxla
- june 2019 second post re anti cheat protest
- sept 2020 25 post streak in this thread for 2 weeks
these late 25 contributions:
- very polite and correct terms
- author presents himself as a neutral observer,
- author shows curiosity and inquires information about the conflict
- however, it transpires that author does have detailed information of his own about the conflict going back months
- author repeatedly appeals to good vibe, neutrality and appreciation of opponents
- however, there is systematic and subtle bias in favor of one party and against the other
to me this spells out plain and simple a carefully constructed intoxication operation. in other words, trolling with a purpose.
just to be clear, this is nothing personal, just an interpretation of events and manifestationas and i don't even consider it wrong. kudos for the effort. what really puzzles me is all the effort, instead of simply stating your position.
do you feel it is working?
You should add this is not our stance.
It's frankly useless if you want to negotiate, you're no leader of Spear/Cide/EN.