Open only story arcs please

[Robert Maynard]

Serious Question here, so pardon my ignorance if it's been asked in the past.

Have fdev ever done an open only CG?

I only ask I can't recall one ever happening and because I don't think the present game code supports it.

Not a CG as such - but the Race to Elite and the NVidia Titan Black giveaway had to be participated in in Open. I expect that a manual check of each winner's activity was employed to verify winners though.

 

[Rubbernuke]

If it were to have any effect on the direction of any game narrative then PvP-gating it would be unreasonable in this game.

And if its in parallel with CGs for Solo or PG? I could argue the exact opposite.

Doesn't change where or what the player is engaged in - leaving the game takes no time or up to 15 seconds.

I'd rather take that chance and have 20 minutes of unpredictable outcomes than hours of doing the same simple task over and over. This is what killed CGs, an overreliance on basic gameloops.

There's always each other....

If you have a game which allows you to improve your ship to G5 levels, improve your combat skills but have no place to use them, whats the point?

 

[Rubbernuke]

Not a CG as such - but the Race to Elite and the NVidia Titan Black giveaway had to be participated in in Open. I expect that a manual check of each winner's activity was employed to verify winners though.

Don't forget the Salome Event, and if I remember right the Gnosis for a while

 

[Bigmaec]

[Mod hat on]

Well what a surprise that I've had to come into a thread like this to tell you all to knock off the petty name calling and personal jibes. To be honest I'm surprised it took this long.

Discuss the post and not the poster, or you can take a break from the thread.

Just curious: could you - theoretically - threadban Robert?

 

[Turd Ferguson]

sorry "open only" elitsts, FDev said from the very beginning that all modes are equally important in the Elite universe and that's not going to change.

I don't see why people are so rabid for "open only" to be the only place where pivotal events are decided. Thus far in Elite's entire history, every "pivotal" event was trolled and ruined in Open.

 

[Rubbernuke]

Just curious: could you - theoretically - threadban Robert?

 

[Robert Maynard]

Don't forget the Salome Event, and if I remember right the Gnosis for a while

I'd omitted the entirely forseeable outcome that was the Salome event. It lasted about 90 minutes, didn't it? Hardly inclusive of the whole player-base, even those who only play in Open.

I had read something to the effect that there were instancing issues during the Gnosis incident, yes.

 

[Sir Ganksalot]

sorry "open only" elitsts, FDev said from the very beginning that all modes are equally important in the Elite universe and that's not going to change.

I posed the same question to Brrokk and I'm curious to get your opinion as well.
What if the devs made a solo only CG and a separate open only CG?

 

[Rubbernuke]

sorry "open only" elitsts, FDev said from the very beginning that all modes are equally important in the Elite universe and that's not going to change.

I don't see why people are so rabid for "open only" to be the only place where pivotal events are decided. Thus far in Elite's entire history, every "pivotal" event was trolled and ruined in Open.

If they are equal, it would be nice to actually have an equal number of PvP / confrontational co-op, or actually have some.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

If they are equal, it would be nice to actually have an equal number of PvP / confrontational co-op, or actually have some.

not everybody wants pvp.

 

[Robert Maynard]

And if its in parallel with CGs for Solo or PG? I could argue the exact opposite.

On what basis?

If you have a game which allows you to improve your ship to G5 levels, improve your combat skills but have no place to use them, whats the point?

The same point as PvP in the main game - players engage in it because they want to, not because they have to.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I posed the same question to Brrokk and I'm curious to get your opinion as well.
What if the devs made a solo only CG and a separate open only CG?

ah...you mean "seperate but equal"?

 

[Sir Ganksalot]

ah...you mean "seperate but equal"?

Um...... Yes?

 

[Rubbernuke]

I'd omitted the entirely forseeable outcome that was the Salome event. It lasted about 90 minutes, didn't it? Hardly inclusive of the whole player-base, even those who only play in Open.

I had read something to the effect that there were instancing issues during the Gnosis incident, yes.

Who cares? Honestly that 90 minutes (plus the exquisite build up) was worth a million BH/ haul CGs. The fact we still talk about it and not those others must say something.

Plus, it does not stop FD designing something different, or not playing dead is dead rules like they did- just takes some imagination and a pen.

 

[TiberiusDuval]

If they are equal, it would be nice to actually have an equal number of PvP / confrontational co-op, or actually have some.

You have all the ganking you ever need. Actual fighting against willing opponent can be risky, nice gankboat may explode and you'll need grind money in solo to repair bank balance.

By term "you" I do not mean you, but gankers in general.

 

[Rubbernuke]

not everybody wants pvp.

I get that- but we are not talking about everybody, just providing something.

 

[Stigbob]

I guess I can agree with you but for the sake of argument, I bought a game that said space combat mmo in it's steam description so maybe I expected it to be more of a space combat mmo and less if a solo space game.

It's got space and combat and its an MMO. You can even do PVP space combat if you can find other willing players.

There's also the dedicated PVP only CQC arena thing, which really needs bots not because of "make it solo" but because you just can't get a match. Or I can't with my limited patience for menu screens.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Who cares? Honestly that 90 minutes (plus the exquisite build up) was worth a million BH/ haul CGs. The fact we still talk about it and not those others must say something.

Then why not organise another such event?

Plus, it does not stop FD designing something different, or not playing dead is dead rules like they did- just takes some imagination and a pen.

.... and the willingness to do so.

 

[Rubbernuke]

You have all the ganking you ever need. Actual fighting against willing opponent can be risky, nice gankboat may explode and you'll need grind money in solo to repair bank balance.

By term "you" I do not mean you, but gankers in general.

Ganking != CZ fighting though- for once you can bring out your best FdL and get cracking for a purpose against people who fancy themselves all in a good cause and pays.

 

[Robert Maynard]

If they are equal, it would be nice to actually have an equal number of PvP / confrontational co-op, or actually have some.

They are equal - they don't revolve around PvP though.