Call to Arms for a Free Colonia

Quick word.

EN and the Reapers entered into a peace treaty in August of last year. Made in good faith, witnessed by factions of CEI, and upheld for the duration with both sides.

A year later, EN and their alliance with SPEAR and Civitas Dei broke this treaty by forcing the Nameless out of Union.

Tebori is holding up a treacherous alliance of zealots and tyrants as a neutral source of information about a supposed "virtual genocide" that the Reapers were somehow responsible for. He is unable to provide proof on request of such an event.

Make of that what you will.
Heey, be nice... He had proof! Too bad it was proof that Kancro is a griefer, but proof nontheless 😂😂😂 you just cant make this up 😂😂😂😂
 
Just an observation: If The Nameless, in taking control of Carcosa, brought some Federation ships along with the Alliance ones, and the Imperial Eagle used to be available...

Perhaps negotiations on CEI might be made to have another system (co-operatively) with even better resources flipped to Anarchy, just to see if further locally unavailable ships might be brought to Colonia?

Granted, there are those currently resident who may dislike the concept, but if CEI were agreeable, would have to accept the decision, surely?
 
Just an observation: If The Nameless, in taking control of Carcosa, brought some Federation ships along with the Alliance ones, and the Imperial Eagle used to be available...

Perhaps negotiations on CEI might be made to have another system (co-operatively) with even better resources flipped to Anarchy, just to see if further locally unavailable ships might be brought to Colonia?

Granted, there are those currently resident who may dislike the concept, but if CEI were agreeable, would have to accept the decision, surely?

Seems reasonable to me, though I would also understand a player group's reluctance to sacrifice, say... their home system for the sake of a BGS experiment.
 
Perhaps negotiations on CEI might be made to have another system (co-operatively) with even better resources flipped to Anarchy, just to see if further locally unavailable ships might be brought to Colonia?
In practical terms, the "even better resources" bit is probably an even bigger practical problem than the diplomatic one.

There are five systems in the Colonia region with widespread C-class outfitting or better:
  • Colonia (A-class)
  • Ogmar (A/B-class)
  • Ratraii (B/C-class)
  • Carcosa (B/C-class)
  • Kojeara (C-class)
...and everything else is basically D-class, and size-limited D-class at that.

Colonia and Ratraii are not possible to hand over.
Ogmar doesn't have any shipyards, just outfitting.
Carcosa ... well, Carcosa is already tested.
Kojeara has a material trader that's too important to risk, is by a fair bit the weakest of the five decent outfitters [1], and doesn't have a native Anarchy faction so the diplomatic issues would be even bigger.

The only practical way I can see it happening is if a large station with shipyard and outfitting were added to the Ratraii system under the control of Brian's Thugs. Not impossible, I guess, but would require Frontier to set it up.

[1] If you want to do a science experiment on their relative sizes, Tenjin Pioneers are Cooperative, so if you put one of the four Cooperatives currently present in charge of Robardin, you should be able to a more direct quality comparison between the two stations. ;)
 
Any chances one of those upgraded Refinery Outposts will be in Colonia and have Outfitting or Shipyard? Would that alter the balance of power too much?
 
The only practical way I can see it happening is if a large station with shipyard and outfitting were added to the Ratraii system under the control of Brian's Thugs. Not impossible, I guess, but would require Frontier to set it up.

Who knows what the next 2 years of story bring, we might end up with another well-stocked large Anarchy station in the Colonia region after all.
The shipyard offerings are connected to the outfitting level?

I don't think a cooperative will be put in charge of Carcosa now that Dear Leader got his foot in the door.
 
Any chances one of those upgraded Refinery Outposts will be in Colonia and have Outfitting or Shipyard? Would that alter the balance of power too much?
From a practical perspective only Malik in Hephaestus and Annan in Sollaro would really be a help.
If that would change anything? No idea...
 
Any chances one of those upgraded Refinery Outposts will be in Colonia and have Outfitting or Shipyard? Would that alter the balance of power too much?
The four refinery orbital outposts currently in the region are:
- Malik Station, Hephaestus (SECD)
- Annan Orbital, Sollaro (SECD)
- Neugebauer Mines, Luchtaine (UCA)
- Berman Market, Alberta (PAEX)

Neugebauer is the busiest and the largest economically, but already has a large pad refinery station (Moore's Charm) just a few Ls away anyway.
Berman is the second largest economically, fairly quiet, it'd be a bit odd to have a primary Outpost (Kraft Works) and a secondary Coriolis but it works okay in Ogmar, prettiest location
Annan is very quiet and not particularly large economically
Malik is tiny economically, so if it upgraded the station economy size as well that would perhaps be the most beneficial option for balance ... but it does lack a shipyard.

Berman would probably be the most useful to upgrade, I think.
 
Who knows what the next 2 years of story bring, we might end up with another well-stocked large Anarchy station in the Colonia region after all.
The shipyard offerings are connected to the outfitting level?

I don't think a cooperative will be put in charge of Carcosa now that Dear Leader got his foot in the door.
Maybe, maybe not but the lesson is clear, unless we unite and fight NOW then from this moment on factions in Colonia will only hold their systems and assets with CIDE's permission and approval.
 
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So many pages... You folks sure know how to write novels :)

So you do admit the travelling 22.000ly to kill one cmdr, bit. What about breaking the peace treaty, any comment? Any comment on alligations about the "army of peace", being actually an army of violence and oppression?

How does me properly quoting a section of the code of conduct, in response to your selective quoting, makes me admit "the travelling 22.000ly to kill one cmdr, bit"?
The constant attempts at finding an angle, weaving in a self-serving narrative, and the echo chamber effect is not gonna help you get a decent discussion.

As for Kancros showing up on the DG2 board, it's there because someone thought it would be "amusing" to do so and was part of an attempt to discredit EDR with a doctored screenshot. In hindsight, putting Kancros' name on this board without his approval was probably against the forum rules, and while that might have been only one contributing factor, the poster eventually got banned from the forum.
 
So many pages... You folks sure know how to write novels :)



How does me properly quoting a section of the code of conduct, in response to your selective quoting, makes me admit "the travelling 22.000ly to kill one cmdr, bit"?
The constant attempts at finding an angle, weaving in a self-serving narrative, and the echo chamber effect is not gonna help you get a decent discussion.

As for Kancros showing up on the DG2 board, it's there because someone thought it would be "amusing" to do so and was part of an attempt to discredit EDR with a doctored screenshot. In hindsight, putting Kancros' name on this board without his approval was probably against the forum rules, and while that might have been only one contributing factor, the poster eventually got banned from the forum.

Your own people told me they came to Colonia just to kill me.

But anyway... can you clearly explain this genocide thing we're suddenly responsible for?

Or do we need to get in voice chat too? I'm willing to do that.
 
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