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Some dunce turned on one of the gas taps at lunchtime in our school, obviously evacuated and pretty much 50/50 split between people who wanted to get back in and people who wanted the whole building to explode.

I hope Chemistry labs are locked these days.....and not with the locks that were so easy to pick or force either....Chem labs have a lot to answer for.

I cant say what we used to borrow and make, but its certainly a H block offence nowadays, but we were just experimenting with no malice or intent in mind. Luckily we stopped before any of us were harmed. I think we scared ourselves.

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Fascinating !

I am impressed with your ability to do sarcasm in a foreign language. I cant even remember how to ask where the Town Hall is or why the monkey is on the chair.
 
Some dunce turned on one of the gas taps at lunchtime in our school, obviously evacuated and pretty much 50/50 split between people who wanted to get back in and people who wanted the whole building to explode.

I hope Chemistry labs are locked these days.....and not with the locks that were so easy to pick or force either....Chem labs have a lot to answer for.

I cant say what we used to borrow and make, but its certainly a H block offence nowadays, but we were just experimenting with no malice or intent in mind. Luckily we stopped before any of us were harmed. I think we scared ourselves.



I am impressed with your ability to do sarcasm in a foreign language. I cant even remember how to ask where the Town Hall is or why the monkey is on the chair.
I trod a few corridors in the Maze back in 1979...wearing the unwanted foreigners green outfit and carrying a gun on the outside of the bars, thankfully. A grim place back then. :censored:
 
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If they release MVP they get creamed and possibly game-over.

What exactly would "game-over" mean for Chris? The way I see it its game-over for him of SC goes under and legal investigations prove he committed fraud, loses all money made and faces jail-time. With the company structure as it is I m guessing he prepared for that eventuality very early on, maybe has run the company with that thought in mind as early as 2014 and might be well prepared to jump ship and walk away untouchable but stinkin rich on other peoples dime.

For somebody like Chris....CIG and Star Citizen failing but him keeping all the money he and his cronies drained from the project over the years is very much a win if the law cant touch him. Why would he care? Ego reasons cuz he failed his dream? The 10+ millions he got so far (probably more) are a nice band-aid I m sure. As a little bonus the most dedicated will stay loyal no matter what so in addition to all the sweet money he s going to have a little group of faithful worshippping him, think Ben Lesnick times 20 ^^

Nobody likes to see the bad guy win but in reality this happens quite often because obviously crime pays the big bucks and thats why so many refer to it. Bad guys getting their just reward is a rare occasion compared to all the cases where the victims are left holding the shards. Thank god I m not invested in all this so if Chris gets off scott-free and rich to boot I wont foam at the mouth, cry openly or look desperately for a way to somehow hurt him as revenge. But I ll chuckle to myself and be content with seeing it coming a mile off AND none of my money made this possible so yeah, if people want to do stupid or silly stuff whos to forbid it?

Which totally reeks of pay to win.

NooooOOOOoOOOo I m sure you simply got it wrong. Quick LittleAnt tell him how it really is :)


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Fascinating !


See, you are getting there :D (y) (y)
 
What exactly would "game-over" mean for Chris?

good question, i meant it wider but yes your post + loss of identity as this great CEO visionary game maker film producer. The money is not the same as the glory. Hollywood becomes one or more steps further away...again.

Basically the money dries up at release is one reasonable scenario.
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For the rest. CIG shut down and game has no server. Everything just stops and the blame begins, it was the FUDsters fault etc etc
 
My five cents to that MVP discussion: What exactly would prevent CIG "publishing" SC now? In the state it is. Then keep servers running say something like for the year, and pull the plug. Technically in its current state it IS a game, but not very good one. No fraud after all, it just became evident that developer could not implement all promised stuff, but that happens in software industry all the time. :D And Chris can laugh whole time while going to the bank :D
 
I'm not sure even Atari would touch it
Given my experience with them in 2003, they had enough trouble licencing their own IP, let alone one with an undisclosed (and hence potentially unresolved) legal settlement hanging over it. Whilst you can never say never, imho no licencing/publisher exec is going to touch SC with a 100foot pole, whilst wearing an NBC suit, under those conditions and especially under the current economic climate.

The assets don't exactly amount to a great deal without an engine for those "in game" and there doesn't seem to be much in the way of tangible assets to realise outside of those.

Star Citizen is either going to succeed or die in a ditch on its own merits/failures...
 
'What is dead may never die' is accurate, but usually implies that something 'lived' then 'died' and now cannot die again....we are still waiting for the 'lived' bit....I think we can all imagine what stage we are really at but its not forum material but we all know somebody is getting shafted. .
 
Also a school mate was from iron-curtained Poland, but he was able to acquire detergents and fertilisers that weren't available here. We developed solid fuel rockets by using empty alu cigar cylinders. Very workable material.
Me and my friend in 80's dismantled fireworks to make our own bigger fireworks. Somehow I still have all my fingers and other appendages intact. Nowadays when I can legally own gunpowder I have no interest on doing stuff like that, must be because I like having all my fingers and other appendages attached to me :D
 
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My five cents to that MVP discussion: What exactly would prevent CIG "publishing" SC now? In the state it is. Then keep servers running say something like for the year, and pull the plug. Technically in its current state it IS a game, but not very good one. No fraud after all, it just became evident that developer could not implement all promised stuff, but that happens in software industry all the time. :D And Chris can laugh whole time while going to the bank :D

Well, people report they already have more fun in this alpha than any other game out there, so surely CIG could release it right now!

I'm sure the reviews will be glowing!
 
And with a bit of polishing it will be 'as good or better than most games out there'. Not quite the BDSSE but everyone will understand that was just marketing.

Best Damn Space Scam Ever more like, seriously I thought one of those RW Private Enterprise rocket launcher project would turn out to be a major scam but they're all launching bloody rockets now, none of them were as unrealistic as SC!
 
Me and my friend in 80's dismantled fireworks to make our own bigger fireworks. Somehow I still have all my fingers and other appendages in tact. Nowadays when I can legally own gunpowder I have no interest on doing stuff like that, must be because I like having all my fingers and other appendages attached to me :D
Yes, but that weak powder doesn't propel rockets nicely. You have to think of a payload too.
 
My five cents to that MVP discussion: What exactly would prevent CIG "publishing" SC now? In the state it is. Then keep servers running say something like for the year, and pull the plug. Technically in its current state it IS a game, but not very good one. No fraud after all, it just became evident that developer could not implement all promised stuff, but that happens in software industry all the time. :D And Chris can laugh whole time while going to the bank :D

I d say SCs current stability is not sufficient for a commercial release. Once you declare release you can expect more players swarming the servers at which point stability goes down the drain and bandwidth cost go up. We are not even talking about additional sales and new people but all the thousands of already entitled backers who havent touched the alpha in years trying to enjoy the game they paid for. Due to the technical issues and gamebreaking bugs as well as its unfinished state SC would receive horrendous reviews and rates (remember how Mass Effect got blasted and laughed at cuz they got the EYES wrong?) and become the official laughing stock of the gaming press.

There is no tutorial, pretty much every feature is broken or can break during play which is more probable as you can expect servers to fill up quickly.

I guess thats what preventing CIG from calling it a day but they are trying to get there. Drop the game and run.


Me and my friend in 80's dismantled fireworks to make our own bigger fireworks. Somehow I still have all my fingers and other appendages in tact. Nowadays when I can legally own gunpowder I have no interest on doing stuff like that, must be because I like having all my fingers and other appendages attached to me :D

I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was young. Playing in "creative ways" with fireworks as well as daring the other kids into crossing the rail tracks when an ICE was approaching (I held the recod...). Things I think back on and shiver with dread as I realize how I was simply lucky to survive to adulthood. Maturity and age change your perspective plus I guess the more you have to lose the more you take care and precaution to not lose it all. I tend to think more about what I m doing or digging a bit more in order to find out if something is worth doing or not. I got burned a few times in life but never permanently or so severly that it impairs me in some way. When it comes to Star Citizen I could cough up the 45 bucks and give it a shot but my thinking is the way this project has gone so far it could very well be a lost cause and a scam so I m not going to possibly support somebody whos not deserving of the money. I can understand the people who did get sucked in already tho...what do they have to lose? Their 45 bucks investment already is gone and lost, never to come back. They can as well try to enjoy it for what it is and hope for the best eh? And it would still be worth the 45 bucks if it would perform as the shills want to make us believe. But the reports of "I have no issues whatsoever with 60 frames rock solid at 4k" are a stark conrast to all the reports saying the exact opposite so I tend to not cash in to find a side. Life streams do the trick quite nicely and so far most life streams I watched confirm the naysayers and when everything is working it hardly looks like entertaining gameplay to me.
 
I d say SCs current stability is not sufficient for a commercial release. Once you declare release you can expect more players swarming the servers at which point stability goes down the drain and bandwidth cost go up. We are not even talking about additional sales and new people but all the thousands of already entitled backers who havent touched the alpha in years trying to enjoy the game they paid for. Due to the technical issues and gamebreaking bugs as well as its unfinished state SC would receive horrendous reviews and rates (remember how Mass Effect got blasted and laughed at cuz they got the EYES wrong?) and become the official laughing stock of the gaming press.

There is no tutorial, pretty much every feature is broken or can break during play which is more probable as you can expect servers to fill up quickly.

I guess thats what preventing CIG from calling it a day but they are trying to get there. Drop the game and run.

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Why would he care? He got the money. He should run. Or maybe that is just fake account pretending to Robbers. Or Robbers is actually totally self-deluding himself. And didn't took any money. But Ortwin did...
 
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