COMPLETED CG Fight for the Marlinists with the Duduseklis Empire League
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You're saying that the outcome of the CG was both irrelevant (the small ships escape regardless) and rigged?
If the outcome is irrelevant, they don't need to rig the CG to give a particular result.
More accurately, what's happening is that both CG outcomes lead to the same major result:
- the population of Ackwada is placed under Imperial martial law
- a number of NMLA members in small ships escape beforehand
...but they lead to different minor results, in this case:
- Marlinist (likely mostly not neo-Marlinist) refugees do not escape
...which may lead to slight variations in the plot later on - rather than someone talking about how they fled Ackwada as a refugee, they will talk about how they were held in an Imperial prison for six months after the navy boarded their ship, for example.
(Noting that the CG would have had a very different result if just 300 specific players out of 7000 had either not shown up or fought for the other side, I think you're also attributing to Frontier far more ability to predict and influence collective player activity than they actually have)
Something they would have to fix manually, after all Duduseklis Empire League may have lost the CG but in the war their pilots racked up more combat bonds.
I don't necessarily see a problem with that. Blockading a system isn't the same as controlling it. The Empire doesn't hold any ground so far. Just a lot of space.
Well, one of the factions in that system is backed up by the whole might of the Empire, just won war against another faction where probably most of those faction members tried to flee the system, pretty much abandoning it. I would say they should loose influence, station control, etc., not remain in control, like if nothing happened.I don't necessarily see a problem with that. Blockading a system isn't the same as controlling it. The Empire doesn't hold any ground so far. Just a lot of space.
Probably the empire just installed new leaders, hoping the masses wouldn't even realise the difference - damn they're cunning
Hmm... that... actually could workProbably the empire just installed new leaders, hoping the masses wouldn't even realise the difference - damn they're cunning
The Marlinist faction is in Civil Unrest, heading towards a lockdown. If the newly installed puppet-government doesn't take any action (they won't) then they'll bleed INF (I think?) until Regulatory State of Ackwada (who happen to be in 2nd place) are begged to take over. A cunning plan, getting a rebellious populous to raise you to power themselves.
Well what now Resistance fighters? The Dudes are still in control but were warring with the Regs, I thought it was a sensible time to hastily pack and bug out before Imperial spooks find the black boxes on a couple dozen Navy ships with my rail gun holes through them...
I’ve still got plenty of reclusive Engineers to unlock so I’m working for my Sirius permit hoping the protection of the corp will keep the Empire away until the heat dies down. If I can do some mining and unlock Selene at the same time, I’ll be able to beef up for the next event. See you there CMDRs!
I’ve still got plenty of reclusive Engineers to unlock so I’m working for my Sirius permit hoping the protection of the corp will keep the Empire away until the heat dies down. If I can do some mining and unlock Selene at the same time, I’ll be able to beef up for the next event. See you there CMDRs!
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Well, firstly, I was repeating something I have heard other players say this week in response to a comment from somebody else, which you have taken out of context and read into as if it was my own view. If you read the sentence again in context I am actually saying the opposite, that I hope people who think the CG was rigged and pointless will have no justification for thinking so.
Secondly, simply being a Marlinist is not a crime. It does not make anyone automatically a criminal to have a different political opinion, despite the empire's utterly dishonest attempts to conflate them. Some of us are not so willing to take the word of an aggressor who has already tried once to sway us with emotive language over evidence. It has nothing to do with cynicism but with apparently unimportant things to the empire like the burden of proof, evidence and the concept of innocent till proven guilty.
Likewise, until there is evidence that any of the refugees captured actually are criminals, instead of being merely called criminals, the empire has attacked another system on suspicion alone. As has been pointed out the real terrorists, if they even existed in the system in the first place, would not wait for a megaship, they would be gone in their own ships or ones provided for them. It's like arresting a bus full of people suspecting that bank robbers are on it when they have already escaped in their Lamborghinis. Since these people are clearly well organised and funded it is naive, illogical and frankly downright ridiculous to think they would take the slow public transport that was the easiest to track and watch. Even as a double bluff it's stupid.
So all the empire has really done is round up the average joe who goes to work every day, doesn't kill anyone, doesn't bomb anyone, doesn't want to, doesn't intend to, doesn't support anyone who does and for this the empire has arrested him and branded him a criminal on no evidence, again, simply for his voting preferences and not being able to escape in his own ship.
And again the empire looks like an angry child lashing out because they don't know who hit them and so anyone they suspect will do. So now it thinks it can attack who it likes when it likes and if that can be used as a handy excuse to clear out all those pesky protest groups, peaceful or otherwise, or indeed anyone for the new and heinous crime of having a different opinion despite having never used it to justify any act of violence or terrorism whatsoever, so much the better.
Innocent till proven guilty is democracy. The reverse is tyranny.
No, neither. See above. As with the other poster you're taking a response to someone else out of context. The outcome comment was in response to someone saying this is fdev's way of saying to be continued, and I agreed there must be more to come from the story. The Empire has set a dangerous precedent which I feel there must be a reckoning for at some point. This is the opposite of irrelevant. If there wasn't more to come from this story then I speculated that those players who felt the whole thing was rigged and pointless would feel justified but I believe they will not be.
As for being rigged I am saying that I have heard players claiming this, in game and on discord, and often. How representative you think that may be is another debate but the fact that the feeling exists is neither speculation nor invention. Such people claim it was rigged for the Empire to win and therefore pointless, a fact I actually disagreed with on the grounds that if they truly wanted to rig it they would have made it impossible, not just extremely difficult. I also said that in a way it made sense and was more "realistic" as unbalanced, since logically it would be the harder job for the alleged terrorists considering the vastly superior power they faced.
So no on both counts.
I hope this story will not be put on hold for too long while the Thargoids attack again.
Marlinist Exodus as Imperial Lockdowns Continue
16 OCT 3306
The Empire has locked down more systems as part of an anti-terrorism operation, causing millions of Marlinists to flee from their homes.
Following NMLA terror attacks, martial law was declared in regions where the political beliefs of Marlinism are prevalent.
Citizens in several systems including 234 G. Carinae, Baltah'Sine, Beatis, CD-39 3269, Chana, HIP 39470, Mazahuanses and Nahuatl have evacuated en masse to avoid arrest. There are eyewitness reports of people crammed into whatever vessels they can find, often in unsafe numbers.
Vox Galactica featured this statement from Dr Jenna Fairfax, a Marlinist community leader and advocate of democratic reform:
“This isn’t a search for terrorists – it’s a crusade against anyone who shares Marlin Duval’s dream of a Republic. Such brutal persecution leaves us no choice but to risk our lives by seeking sanctuary elsewhere.”
In the Senate, a handful of senators voiced concerns about the treatment of Imperial citizens, to which Denton Patreus responded:
“The security of the Empire is paramount. These worlds harbour a ruthless enemy that has already slaughtered thousands. We will not rest until the Neo-Marlinist poison has been cleansed, even if that means tracking down everyone who may carry this infection.”
The Imperial Navy is searching for all ships transporting Marlinist refugees, but there is evidence that some have reached systems controlled by the Federation.
16 OCT 3306
The Empire has locked down more systems as part of an anti-terrorism operation, causing millions of Marlinists to flee from their homes.
Following NMLA terror attacks, martial law was declared in regions where the political beliefs of Marlinism are prevalent.
Citizens in several systems including 234 G. Carinae, Baltah'Sine, Beatis, CD-39 3269, Chana, HIP 39470, Mazahuanses and Nahuatl have evacuated en masse to avoid arrest. There are eyewitness reports of people crammed into whatever vessels they can find, often in unsafe numbers.
Vox Galactica featured this statement from Dr Jenna Fairfax, a Marlinist community leader and advocate of democratic reform:
“This isn’t a search for terrorists – it’s a crusade against anyone who shares Marlin Duval’s dream of a Republic. Such brutal persecution leaves us no choice but to risk our lives by seeking sanctuary elsewhere.”
In the Senate, a handful of senators voiced concerns about the treatment of Imperial citizens, to which Denton Patreus responded:
“The security of the Empire is paramount. These worlds harbour a ruthless enemy that has already slaughtered thousands. We will not rest until the Neo-Marlinist poison has been cleansed, even if that means tracking down everyone who may carry this infection.”
The Imperial Navy is searching for all ships transporting Marlinist refugees, but there is evidence that some have reached systems controlled by the Federation.
Oof! ✌
✌I think its the same story, somehow.
Fight the power!
Self, we were right:
Does that mean that on thise systems have a lot of passenger missions aviable or do i need to wait for that CG?
BTW. I have seen some Youtube videos mention "remember to buy lifesupport for your passenger cabins". Does that mean that i should not have bigger passenger cabins than my lifesupport is rated?