"The Stones"
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o7 folks.
I arrived at the LP and received the data dump. I've obviously no clue, and I was on page 6 of this thread when I got the data. I was quite pleased - was I just in the right place at the right time?
Sadly, you guys got the data two pages later.
I have ZERO skill at codes - I can't even do a crossword - but something is striking me about this code.
8BFGTY4PLU67-RTYO06.45:GN63-74PHGJI E67-:F563-21-574.9
ER34.6-DER8+WEST U.5 -RTG10 RTH8-4 6T.WR4564-21 +G134.2
RT55.4 GDW THE42.1LY 764.2Y-45TG4.BTJ-Y. 6ORT437.1D341-
67.Y5DS 243 45TY-3234
Now to ME, this looks a hell of a lot like a METAR. It obviously isn't, it has a very different meaning.
A METAR is a METeorological Aviation Report - a shorthand weather report that we used to grab off teletype machines - hence the shorthand.
Here is a typical example from one close to me:
METAR CYXU 310600Z 09002KT 15SM BKN039 00/M02 A3037 RMK SC7 SLP297=
METAR CYXU 310500Z 00000KT 15SM BKN039 00/M02 A3037 RMK SC7 SLP295=
METAR CYXU 310400Z 00000KT 15SM BKN038 00/M02 A3035 RMK SC7 SLP289=
TAF CYXU 310538Z 3106/0106 VRB03KT P6SM BKN030
FM310800 VRB03KT P6SM FEW030
BECMG 3112/3114 15006KT
FM311600 15010G20KT P6SM BKN020
FM312000 18010G20KT P6SM SCT030
BECMG 0101/0103 18015G25KT
FM010500 20015G25KT P6SM BKN090
RMK NXT FCST BY 311200Z=
With experience, they become fairly easy to read.
I can't help with the codebreaking, but it seems to me folks might be thinking too hard about it - it's a thought anyway. If people can identify one or two words of the shorthand, perhaps they can make inroads into the rest.
Shrug - I know it probably doesn't help, but when brainstorming the idea is to get as many thoughts out on the table as possible.
I arrived at the LP and received the data dump. I've obviously no clue, and I was on page 6 of this thread when I got the data. I was quite pleased - was I just in the right place at the right time?
Sadly, you guys got the data two pages later.
I have ZERO skill at codes - I can't even do a crossword - but something is striking me about this code.
8BFGTY4PLU67-RTYO06.45:GN63-74PHGJI E67-:F563-21-574.9
ER34.6-DER8+WEST U.5 -RTG10 RTH8-4 6T.WR4564-21 +G134.2
RT55.4 GDW THE42.1LY 764.2Y-45TG4.BTJ-Y. 6ORT437.1D341-
67.Y5DS 243 45TY-3234
Now to ME, this looks a hell of a lot like a METAR. It obviously isn't, it has a very different meaning.
A METAR is a METeorological Aviation Report - a shorthand weather report that we used to grab off teletype machines - hence the shorthand.
Here is a typical example from one close to me:
METAR CYXU 310600Z 09002KT 15SM BKN039 00/M02 A3037 RMK SC7 SLP297=
METAR CYXU 310500Z 00000KT 15SM BKN039 00/M02 A3037 RMK SC7 SLP295=
METAR CYXU 310400Z 00000KT 15SM BKN038 00/M02 A3035 RMK SC7 SLP289=
TAF CYXU 310538Z 3106/0106 VRB03KT P6SM BKN030
FM310800 VRB03KT P6SM FEW030
BECMG 3112/3114 15006KT
FM311600 15010G20KT P6SM BKN020
FM312000 18010G20KT P6SM SCT030
BECMG 0101/0103 18015G25KT
FM010500 20015G25KT P6SM BKN090
RMK NXT FCST BY 311200Z=
With experience, they become fairly easy to read.
I can't help with the codebreaking, but it seems to me folks might be thinking too hard about it - it's a thought anyway. If people can identify one or two words of the shorthand, perhaps they can make inroads into the rest.
Shrug - I know it probably doesn't help, but when brainstorming the idea is to get as many thoughts out on the table as possible.
Did you try Salome?
I know I know... but the first thing that came to my mind after looking at the synuefe system in galmap was her. And of course her journey from col 70 to the bubble. I tried to find the route she took but I couldnt. We never found everything back then or did we?
So are we 100% sure that the LP is connected to the current event?
Yeah... this is why I think it's some sort of proforma + encoding.... it's definitely not cipher text. It has way too much structure for that.o7 folks.
I arrived at the LP and received the data dump. I've obviously no clue, and I was on page 6 of this thread when I got the data. I was quite pleased - was I just in the right place at the right time?
Sadly, you guys got the data two pages later.
I have ZERO skill at codes - I can't even do a crossword - but something is striking me about this code.
8BFGTY4PLU67-RTYO06.45:GN63-74PHGJI E67-:F563-21-574.9
ER34.6-DER8+WEST U.5 -RTG10 RTH8-4 6T.WR4564-21 +G134.2
RT55.4 GDW THE42.1LY 764.2Y-45TG4.BTJ-Y. 6ORT437.1D341-
67.Y5DS 243 45TY-3234
Now to ME, this looks a hell of a lot like a METAR. It obviously isn't, it has a very different meaning.
A METAR is a METeorological Aviation Report - a shorthand weather report that we used to grab off teletype machines - hence the shorthand.
Here is a typical example from one close to me:
METAR CYXU 310600Z 09002KT 15SM BKN039 00/M02 A3037 RMK SC7 SLP297=
METAR CYXU 310500Z 00000KT 15SM BKN039 00/M02 A3037 RMK SC7 SLP295=
METAR CYXU 310400Z 00000KT 15SM BKN038 00/M02 A3035 RMK SC7 SLP289=
TAF CYXU 310538Z 3106/0106 VRB03KT P6SM BKN030
FM310800 VRB03KT P6SM FEW030
BECMG 3112/3114 15006KT
FM311600 15010G20KT P6SM BKN020
FM312000 18010G20KT P6SM SCT030
BECMG 0101/0103 18015G25KT
FM010500 20015G25KT P6SM BKN090
RMK NXT FCST BY 311200Z=
With experience, they become fairly easy to read.
I can't help with the codebreaking, but it seems to me folks might be thinking too hard about it - it's a thought anyway. If people can identify one or two words of the shorthand, perhaps they can make inroads into the rest.
Shrug - I know it probably doesn't help, but when brainstorming the idea is to get as many thoughts out on the table as possible.
Something I noticed about the log is that the first three lines appear to be connected, and the 4th seems to be another line on it's own. the spacing at the end of the first two lines is similar (and both end in a - ) and the third line ends with a period and is cut off shorter. The last line is also structured differently than the rest of the code. maybe it is encrypted or whatever, the last line may be the easiest to solve because it may be a known phrase or something guessable
I couldn't read the whole thread so, has anyone talked about the "42.1LY" after the word "THE"? Maybe its not random and that distance is important somewhere..
Also, could someone please do a final bullet summary of the events, accompanied with the system names? Thanks a lot
Also, could someone please do a final bullet summary of the events, accompanied with the system names? Thanks a lot
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That's another angle I'm going with.... it's not fully encoded.... it's actuality a mix of encoded and unencoded data. Like..... if WR4564 really is WREGOE... then some of the others are in a similar condition. I'm also thinking punctuation isn't encoded.
I don't think the WR4564 is correct in that scenario because 6T.WR4564 doesn't make sense (decrypted FT.WREGOE, which sounds more like an album title on apple music than useful info)
"WR4564" = "Wregoe"...some scrambled alphabet. And I guess, there is more than a one-letter=one letter combination.
(4=E, 5=G, 6=O)
so the string becomes:
"8BFGTYePLUo7-RTYO0o.eg:GNo3-7ePHGJI Eo7-:Fgo3-21-g7e.9
ER3e.o-DER8+WEST U.g -RTG10 RTH8-e oT.WRegoe-21 +G13e.2
RTgg.e GDW THEe2.1LY 7oe.2Y-egTGe.BTJ-Y. oORTe37.1D3e1-
o7.YgDS 2e3 egTY-323e"
Like:
WR4564-21 +G134
= "WREGOE 21-+ G13"
WREGOE AA-A A0 (just an example)...(I remember the last Salome Riddle, scrambled all over)
further thinking: 2=t and 3=n (the only sensical solution for the word "2e3", except "SEX" ;-) so:
"8BFGTYePLUo7-RTYO0o.eg:GNon-7ePHGJI Eo7-:Fgon-t1-g7e.9
ERne.o-DER8+WEST U.g -RTG10 RTH8-e oT.WRegoe-t1 +G1ne.t
RTgg.e GDW THEet.1LY 7oe.tY-egTGe.BTJ-Y. oORTen7.1Dne1-
o7.YgDS ten egTY-ntne"
edit: does not make really sense to me, actually...I lose all the numbers with that.
(4=E, 5=G, 6=O)
so the string becomes:
"8BFGTYePLUo7-RTYO0o.eg:GNo3-7ePHGJI Eo7-:Fgo3-21-g7e.9
ER3e.o-DER8+WEST U.g -RTG10 RTH8-e oT.WRegoe-21 +G13e.2
RTgg.e GDW THEe2.1LY 7oe.2Y-egTGe.BTJ-Y. oORTe37.1D3e1-
o7.YgDS 2e3 egTY-323e"
Like:
WR4564-21 +G134
= "WREGOE 21-+ G13"
WREGOE AA-A A0 (just an example)...(I remember the last Salome Riddle, scrambled all over)
further thinking: 2=t and 3=n (the only sensical solution for the word "2e3", except "SEX" ;-) so:
"8BFGTYePLUo7-RTYO0o.eg:GNon-7ePHGJI Eo7-:Fgon-t1-g7e.9
ERne.o-DER8+WEST U.g -RTG10 RTH8-e oT.WRegoe-t1 +G1ne.t
RTgg.e GDW THEet.1LY 7oe.tY-egTGe.BTJ-Y. oORTen7.1Dne1-
o7.YgDS ten egTY-ntne"
edit: does not make really sense to me, actually...I lose all the numbers with that.
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For sure. That "if" in front of "if wr4564 is wregoe..." probably should've been in giant, red disclaimer-text blinking font.
A few random thoughts:
This is a listening post, rather than an Unregistered Comms Beacon - so the message is one it has picked up from elsewhere - probably Chukchan, or maybe the Azimuth representative on Musca. Either way it should be from Azimuth saying 'go to the expedition and pick up the goods' - so it's interesting there are no 'A's (Azimuth, Musca ).
There are far too many numbers in the message. To point to a system you only need a handful to encode a name or coordinates, so why are there so many (and combined with punctuation that make little sense?). I tend to agree it looks more like it is encoded than encrypted, it doesn't 'look' like a message.
My own personal theory is that it's some kind of LOGO-esque set of directions (go X LY, then turn Y degrees horizontally, then Z Ly etc), but sadly that would work better if the originator was a comms beacon, as (theoretically) any LP anywhere could pick up the signal (well, unless the LP is tuned to Azimuth sender, but that's more suppositions than I can swallow).
This is a listening post, rather than an Unregistered Comms Beacon - so the message is one it has picked up from elsewhere - probably Chukchan, or maybe the Azimuth representative on Musca. Either way it should be from Azimuth saying 'go to the expedition and pick up the goods' - so it's interesting there are no 'A's (Azimuth, Musca ).
There are far too many numbers in the message. To point to a system you only need a handful to encode a name or coordinates, so why are there so many (and combined with punctuation that make little sense?). I tend to agree it looks more like it is encoded than encrypted, it doesn't 'look' like a message.
My own personal theory is that it's some kind of LOGO-esque set of directions (go X LY, then turn Y degrees horizontally, then Z Ly etc), but sadly that would work better if the originator was a comms beacon, as (theoretically) any LP anywhere could pick up the signal (well, unless the LP is tuned to Azimuth sender, but that's more suppositions than I can swallow).
Posting unrelated LP is just going to confuse people...I went to maia and took a screeny of a known working LP
thought it might come in handy for reference.
I said yesterday that the first characters from the LP message looked like a system description: 8BFGTY4PLU67. Eight bodies, F G T Y stars, four planets... I lost it about LU67. Points and dashes could be asteroid clusters and rings... the rest of the message, encoded physical characteristics of the bodies, navigational star data, surface coordinates, the laundry list...
Then the capture (captivity) of the Thargoid, could have caused the Aggression of the Thargoids, this could have been the cause of aggression today ... For other organisms, the concept of time is not clear! Moreover, it is a hive.
So!
Researchers find "growths", find the ship and take the "object" from it (they report everything) to the Company!
The company sends a ship to pick up the "object" after picking up the object, the mercenaries eliminate the witnesses, but during the cleanup the Tragoids arrive.
The Tarogoids did not find the "object" plus they were subjected to aggression by frightened mercenaries ...
They try to escape, but the tragoids destroy them.
The ship is leaving!
On the ship there is a "riot" among the researchers who did not wait for their colleagues ...
The doctor stole the ship, and upon departure it touches it, it loses control and traction and falls in the hip 69200 system
RUS
Тогда захват (плен) таргоида, мог стать причиной Аггресии Таргоидов, это могло быть причиной аггресии сегодня... Для других организимом понятие время не ясно! Тем более это улей.
И так!
Иследователи находят "наросты" находят корабыль и забирают с него "объект" (обо всем сообщают) Компании!
Компания выслает корабыль забрать "объект" забрав объект наемники устраняют сведетелей, но во время зачистики прилетают Трагоиды.
Тарогоиды не найдя "объект" плюс подверглись аггресии испуганых наемников...
Они пытаються збежать но трагоиды уничтожают их.
Корабыль уходит!
На корабле "бунт" среди иследователей которые не дождались коллег... Стрельба
Доктор украл корабль, и при вылете его задеваетон теряет управление и тягу и падает в системе хип 69200
So!
Researchers find "growths", find the ship and take the "object" from it (they report everything) to the Company!
The company sends a ship to pick up the "object" after picking up the object, the mercenaries eliminate the witnesses, but during the cleanup the Tragoids arrive.
The Tarogoids did not find the "object" plus they were subjected to aggression by frightened mercenaries ...
They try to escape, but the tragoids destroy them.
The ship is leaving!
On the ship there is a "riot" among the researchers who did not wait for their colleagues ...
The doctor stole the ship, and upon departure it touches it, it loses control and traction and falls in the hip 69200 system
RUS
Тогда захват (плен) таргоида, мог стать причиной Аггресии Таргоидов, это могло быть причиной аггресии сегодня... Для других организимом понятие время не ясно! Тем более это улей.
И так!
Иследователи находят "наросты" находят корабыль и забирают с него "объект" (обо всем сообщают) Компании!
Компания выслает корабыль забрать "объект" забрав объект наемники устраняют сведетелей, но во время зачистики прилетают Трагоиды.
Тарогоиды не найдя "объект" плюс подверглись аггресии испуганых наемников...
Они пытаються збежать но трагоиды уничтожают их.
Корабыль уходит!
На корабле "бунт" среди иследователей которые не дождались коллег... Стрельба
Доктор украл корабль, и при вылете его задеваетон теряет управление и тягу и падает в системе хип 69200
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Пожалуйста, используйте переводчик на английский.
Спасибо!
o7
Please use translator to English. Thank you!
It seems to me on 28.10 they stopped to pick up something and then continued on their way.
I think they took mercenaries because before that they learned about the activity of the Thargoids!
Since then they did not know with whom they contacted, they took only a ground detachment with personal weapons!
Station 28.10 may be the place where everyone was brought!
I think they took mercenaries because before that they learned about the activity of the Thargoids!
Since then they did not know with whom they contacted, they took only a ground detachment with personal weapons!
Station 28.10 may be the place where everyone was brought!
So were still no closer then lol.... BTW Maia L/POST is different lore ( OLD LORE )
