Frontier: give the FSD to ALL players, regardless of whether they took part or not
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O god, the concept is fine. But as far as I understand FDev changed agreement AFTER the CG. That is just bad PR, you can't do that as your reputation goes down really sharp... Not that Fdev have a good reputation anyway...
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I understand the concept just fine but it does not make it good game design for game balance altering equipment.
Imo time limited rewards.should be cosmetic only.
Aside of every wannabe troll comment made just to hide the fact that people writing so just were more than happy to have a free toy they know they didn't deserve obtained just by whining a little bit, this is a dangerous precedent by FDed and, most importantly, a new example of how badly Frontier Developments relate with their player base.
This is a MMO, like it or not, it's been said by the developers themselves in basically every single occasion: in the last dev diaries or in the interviews such the one on PCGamer, and in a MMO rules must be clear and fair, and balancement is crucial for the game. In a MMO if everybody gets everything, if everybody "wins", then we have a great problem.
Elite Dangerous is already a highly atypical MMO (never saw an MMO with magical insivibility by design
), if you even distort rewards because you don't want to deal with a angry group of players who simply lost the "grind war" against other players, then I can't be very confident about how the new much needed and finally announcend rebalancement will be done, same goes for every new mechanic that will be introduced with Odyssey.
If Miyamoto listened to this kind of self-centered whiny feedback, then we'd probably have a Super Mario with no koopas, just a little italian plumber running straight towards the princess.
Rules are important, some players will be better than others and will obtain better rewards, that's something the community should have to deal with at some point if this game really has ambitions to become "something more".
This is a MMO, like it or not, it's been said by the developers themselves in basically every single occasion: in the last dev diaries or in the interviews such the one on PCGamer, and in a MMO rules must be clear and fair, and balancement is crucial for the game. In a MMO if everybody gets everything, if everybody "wins", then we have a great problem.
Elite Dangerous is already a highly atypical MMO (never saw an MMO with magical insivibility by design
), if you even distort rewards because you don't want to deal with a angry group of players who simply lost the "grind war" against other players, then I can't be very confident about how the new much needed and finally announcend rebalancement will be done, same goes for every new mechanic that will be introduced with Odyssey.If Miyamoto listened to this kind of self-centered whiny feedback, then we'd probably have a Super Mario with no koopas, just a little italian plumber running straight towards the princess.
Rules are important, some players will be better than others and will obtain better rewards, that's something the community should have to deal with at some point if this game really has ambitions to become "something more".
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The COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN!
I've not played for going on 18 months but just come back, can Frontier please top up my bank balance please? Under normal weeks I recon I would have made say 100,000,000 credits at least, can Frontier please credit my account with 7,800,000,000 credits. Kthanxbye
Gonna correct you here. FD may sing that tune now but when I backed it David Braben specifically stated he didn't see ED as an MMO in anything other than the literal sense and that he didn't want the usual MMO tropes in the game.
Also your Mario comparison would be more like IF you play on the 15th of November and score in the top few percent then for the rest of the life of the game you get to equip a cloak allowing you to jump higher that no one else can ever get.
Fair or not to me is irrelevant but it isn't good game design imo .
Aside of every wannabe troll comment made just to hide the fact that people writing so just were more than happy to have a free toy they know they didn't deserve obtained just by whining a little bit, this is a dangerous precedent by FDed and, most importantly, a new example of how badly Frontier Developments relate with their player base.
This is a MMO, like it or not, it's been said by the developers themselves in basically every single occasion: in the last dev diaries or in the interviews such the one on PCGamer, and in a MMO rules must be clear and fair, and balancement is crucial for the game. In a MMO if everybody gets everything, if everybody "wins", then we have a great problem.
Elite Dangerous is already a highly atypical MMO (never saw an MMO with magical insivibility by design
If Miyamoto listened to this kind of self-centered whiny feedback, then we'd probably have a Super Mario with no koopas, just a little italian plumber running straight towards the princess.
Rules are important, some players will be better than others and will obtain better rewards, that's something the community should have to deal with at some point if this game really has ambitions to become "something more".
With a thousand different voices echoing from a thousand different arses.
Dev diaries said so. Deal with it dude. It's a MMO. Or maybe you claim to know more about the game than the developers themselves...
And about the "time factor" in every other MMO is plenty of events: you didn't obtain the shiny toy for whatever reason? Well, too bad, you lost and you have to deal with it. Whining in a forum because you had no opportunity to even partecipate? Should I remember you this is a game and maybe real life comes first?
Reducing the Reward Tier to 75%:
Happy: .0001% of the player base (those who got 75% and 50% on last CG)
Fuming Mad and Frustrated: 99.999% of the player base (those who spent time and effort to meet 25% and those who didn't join the CG and discouraged from the beginning due to the steep top tier goal)
Just give the damn TOP TIER FSD to EVERYONE for FREE or honor the original CG mechanics!
Happy: .0001% of the player base (those who got 75% and 50% on last CG)
Fuming Mad and Frustrated: 99.999% of the player base (those who spent time and effort to meet 25% and those who didn't join the CG and discouraged from the beginning due to the steep top tier goal)
Just give the damn TOP TIER FSD to EVERYONE for FREE or honor the original CG mechanics!
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Exactly. I suggest some here get of their high horses and just for a minute ignore requests from the small group of vocal players. Just think what FDev did to themselves. They going deeper and deeper into PR nightmare. Rules are rules - FDev set the rules of CG, many people made conscious judgement of participating or not in CG based on the provided rules. FDev changed those rules AFTER the CG. That is bad. Either rules are for everyone or we do not need them and any request from vocal part of the community is perfectly valid because rules are to be broken...
Given how many bugs have been flagged as fixed and immediately had to be pointed out again, this is really not that much of a stretch.
No one needs to be reminded of this.
Giving the FSD to non-participants: ridiculous.
Giving it to some participants, then snatching it away again: not acceptable.
Frankly this seems to be the least-worst option to correct the situation, even though it won't please everyone. At least those of us who did put in the extra effort got more cash.
Giving it to some participants, then snatching it away again: not acceptable.
Frankly this seems to be the least-worst option to correct the situation, even though it won't please everyone. At least those of us who did put in the extra effort got more cash.
I am not so sure. A rather large part of this forum is so attached to the GAME they no longer see the difference between real life and said GAME...
I'm still hoping for a
"I got top 25% in a CG and all I got was this exclusive decal"
decal.
"I got top 25% in a CG and all I got was this exclusive decal"
decal.
Ok so it's what you say that matters and Elite Dangerous is not a MMO. That's so funny to even write it, try to read it again. And again. And again.
Everyone who went for the CG was after the top tier rewards. Even if there are no cash rewards, Im sure that most of those who made an effort to make it to 25% would still grind it away just to get the top reward. Would you give up the top tier FSD reward and sell it away if I give you an additional 20mill-50 mill credit?