What "extra" animals would you like, that you think could be made from "reskins" or old rigs?

Jeminyne

Jeminyne
(I honestly can't remember if we made a thread like this before, I apologize if it's been done!)

It's weird to me that an animal like the Arctic wolf should take a whole slot in a DLC, since it seemed like a mere reskin. Frontier may have heard us out, though, because no animals since then have been quite as... "easy." The caiman comes closest, but that's about it. Even the dingo and jaguar seemed fairly unique. There's been some discussions of a "reskins" DLC pack at the end of the game's life, that could contain more animals than usual. I'd prefer if Frontier supported modding in the end, but there's no reason we couldn't have both I suppose.

What "recycled" animals do you think would be easier to make? Would ones would you like to see? So long as these animals don't take slots for more unique species in other DLCs, I'd love to see them:

Leopard (from the Jaguar)
Dromedary Camel (from the Bactrian camel)
Spectacled or Sloth Bear (Formosan black bear)
Oryx (Gemsbok)
Humbolt Penguin (King Penguin)
Emu (Ostrich?)
Greater Kudu (Nyala?)
Coyote/Jackal (African Wild Dog?)
Asian Otter (Giant Otter?)

Then again, I'd be happy to see the leopard even if it DID take up DLC space!

No expert on how hard these things are to make, but those are ideas. I can also see Frontier making use of an Ibex rig for a Markhor, or making different deer out of each other. And maybe walrus and elephant seal are built similar enough to each other than we could get both?
 
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NZFanatic

NZFanatic
Well, really almost every animal is based off of an older rig. The African wild dog for example would have been built off of the wolf. If we're going down that road, just about everything counts as a reskin. So how do we decide what is 'easier'?

The emu, to pull an example from your list, is at least as unique from the ostrich as the cassowary - are we considering the cassowary a reskin as well? IMO, 'reskins' are more like the Arctic wolf, Himalayan brown bear, Aldabra tortoise, Siberian tiger - the least amount of change possible.

So the Arabian oryx would likely count, based off of the gemsbok < antelope rig, but the scimitar-horned oryx would require a fair bit more work. Making the sloth bear from the Formosan would be easier than the spectacled bear, which isn't related except by virtue of being a bear (IIRC they're more closely related to the American black bear).
 

Jeminyne

Jeminyne
NZFanatic said:
Well, really almost every animal is based off of an older rig. The African wild dog for example would have been built off of the wolf. If we're going down that road, just about everything counts as a reskin. So how do we decide what is 'easier'?

The emu, to pull an example from your list, is at least as unique from the ostrich as the cassowary - are we considering the cassowary a reskin as well? IMO, 'reskins' are more like the Arctic wolf, Himalayan brown bear, Aldabra tortoise, Siberian tiger - the least amount of change possible.

So the Arabian oryx would likely count, based off of the gemsbok < antelope rig, but the scimitar-horned oryx would require a fair bit more work. Making the sloth bear from the Formosan would be easier than the spectacled bear, which isn't related except by virtue of being a bear (IIRC they're more closely related to the American black bear).
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Hmmm interesting! See that's what I was curious about-- what would realistically count as a "reskin" and what we could potentially get in such a pack. (Though I guess this would only make sense if Frontier actually decided, "no more Arctic Wolf types in DLC packs, until the big pack at the end.") I'd like to change my predictions!

Dromedary Camel
Arabian Oryx
Sloth Bear
Malayan Tapir
Asiatic Lion
Winsent (Bison?)
American Alligator

Still pretty presumptuous for something that might never happen, of course. I could still be off on a lot of these, too.
 

random goat

random goat
I'm with NZFanatic on this one. The definition of 'reskin' and 'recycled' are somewhat vague in this context. As I said in a previous post, there is a wide range of scenarios in which animals could be considered reskins, from the simplest Eurasian Brown Bear, to the complex Grant's Gazelle ('reskinned' from Thomsom's Gazelle) or Cassowary ('reskinned' from Ostrich).

We could consider reskin animals those that share an identical rig aka morphology aka skeleton. But then many of these could require some specific animations and noises, plus the obvious new skin and adjusted size. In this scenario, I wouldn't consider the Great Kudu a reskin animal, for instance. It would need changes in everything I've just mentioned plus some minor adjustments on the Nyala or Sable antelope rigs.

That being said, for me any subspecies of Leopard and the Asian small-clawed Otter are not negotiable. They should come at some point. The Cape penguin, the Emu, the Grant's Gazelle, the Malayan Tapir and the Sitatunga would be very welcome too.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
Jeminyne said:
Hmmm interesting! See that's what I was curious about-- what would realistically count as a "reskin" and what we could potentially get in such a pack. (Though I guess this would only make sense if Frontier actually decided, "no more Arctic Wolf types in DLC packs, until the big pack at the end.") I'd like to change my predictions!

Dromedary Camel
Arabian Oryx
Sloth Bear
Malayan Tapir
Asiatic Lion
Winsent (Bison?)
American Alligator

Still pretty presumptuous for something that might never happen, of course. I could still be off on a lot of these, too.
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The camel is an obvious choice, given the in-game decor (though I've never been convinced that that means anything more than what it is - decor). Technically speaking we already have the Asiatic lion (it falls under the same subspecies as the West African lion, aka the 'northern lion' (Panthera leo leo), but I'm not that pedantic and Frontier does seem to have made the distinction. I'd like the Asiatic lion. The Sumatran tiger is another one I'd count as a straight reskin with some slight model adjustments (less fluffy, leaner, smaller).

In terms of 'middle of the road' I think animals like the Malayan tapir, American alligator, or southern white rhinoceros/easter black rhinoceros would make good choices for a grouping such as this. Very clearly based on existing animal models, but with enough adjustment that they are not straight copies.
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
Masai Giraffe, Asiatic Lion, Malayan Tapir, Dromedary, Coyotes and Jackals (both from the AWD), African Rhino of any species, American Black Bear, possibly Leopard from the Snow Leopard or Jaguar, the American Alligator and a second otter and penguin, those the last four I'm not sure would an as easy to reskin.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
Strange to me that you'd want the coyote and jackal based off the wild dog and not the wolf. They are both closely related to the wolf (part of the same genus) and not at all to the wild dog.
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
NZFanatic said:
Strange to me that you'd want the coyote and jackal based off the wild dog and not the wolf. They are both closely related to the wolf (part of the same genus) and not at all to the wild dog.
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For me, it's more due to the size. But the wolf would work as well.
 

Jeminyne

Jeminyne
jcp011c said:
For me, it's more due to the size. But the wolf would work as well.
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Yeah I was just kinda winging it without thinking much. They definitely look more like wolves, too. (Coyotes can even get mistaken for wolves at a distance.) I guess I thought, "knobbly, scrappier looking dog" and threw them all together in my head.
 

NL_Mutso

NL_Mutso
Animals that basically are reskins but need different environment needs or maybe habitat requirements.
At least have them different on another level

Wolf - Arctic Wolf would've been a good choice :p
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
FoxyDee said:
From a true reskins, I would really like to have malayan tapir.
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The Malayan tapir would need some hefty model adjustments, so I don't think it counts as a 'true reskin' personally. I'd certainly like to see it in the game one day, though. I was always under the impression that Malayan tapir were more common in zoos than the various American species were.
 

DTV Enternainment

DTV Enternainment
Tamandua (Anteater)
Striped Hyena (Spotted Hyena)
Mustang (Zebra but more Horse sounds)
Cougar (cheetah but not as fast like them)
Dohle (Dingo)
Yellow footed Wallaby/redneck wallaby(kangaroo)
Wombats (Koala)
Nandu (Ostrich)
Emu (Cassowary)
Drill (Mandrill)
Babary Macaque (Japanese Macaque)
Squirrel Monkeys (Capuchin Monkey)

These would be so far cool
 

markun

markun
NZFanatic said:
I was always under the impression that Malayan tapir were more common in zoos than the various American species were.
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In Europe Brazilian/lowland tapir are much more common, especially in smaller collections. Malayan tapir are relatively rare in European zoos and Baird's tapir almost unknown with three collections in Germany being the only zoos that have them.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
markun said:
In Europe Brazilian/lowland tapir are much more common, especially in smaller collections. Malayan tapir are relatively rare in European zoos and Baird's tapir almost unknown with three collections in Germany being the only zoos that have them.
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I imagine my opinion was coloured by seeing them at Edinburgh Zoo more recently than I'd seen them anywhere else.
 

SanRazo618

SanRazo618
White and Black Rhinos
Any Jackal or Ethiopian Wolf
Striped Hyena
Leopard
Squirrel Monkey
Howler Monkey
Olive Baboon
Gelada
Dromedary
Scimitar Oryx
Addax
American Alligator
Sloth Bear and Spectacled Bear
Emu
Any Small Penguin
Harbour Seal
Sea Otter
Onager or Przewalski's Wild Horse
Babirusa
Saiga (Maybe a stretch to say as a reskin)
Cougar
Moose (Another stretch as a reskin)
Grey Kangaroo
Wallaroo
 

ElectricMonk

ElectricMonk
SanRazo618 said:
White and Black Rhinos
Any Jackal or Ethiopian Wolf
Striped Hyena
Leopard
Squirrel Monkey
Howler Monkey
Olive Baboon
Gelada
Dromedary
Scimitar Oryx
Addax
American Alligator
Sloth Bear and Spectacled Bear
Emu
Any Small Penguin
Harbour Seal
Sea Otter
Onager or Przewalski's Wild Horse
Babirusa
Saiga (Maybe a stretch to say as a reskin)
Cougar
Moose (Another stretch as a reskin)
Grey Kangaroo
Wallaroo
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I think most of the animals on this list are more than simple reskins - some a lot more
 
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