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It's pretty safe to read if you're avoiding spoilers - I don't see any plot related stuff. Sounds like at least some reviewers had a version of the Day-0 patch, so the build isn't months old - more like days.
Game Discussions Cyberpunk 2077 - official gameplay
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It's pretty safe to read if you're avoiding spoilers - I don't see any plot related stuff. Sounds like at least some reviewers had a version of the Day-0 patch, so the build isn't months old - more like days.
But does that really happen though? Here is the article the first video showed on the thumbnail:
Cyberpunk 2077 is dad rock, not new wave
CD Projekt Red’s open-world game does not exactly have a futuristic worldview
www.polygon.com
It is long, but what it basically boils down to is this:"Hi, I am a trans person and fan of the cyberpunk genre, and this is my view on CP77. While it does do a bunch of things of the genre right, and the city itself looks stunning and is great to walk around it, I am disappointed about how trans people are depicted in this game. The game is also decidedly less revolutionary when it comes to envisioning the future as one would expect in this genre. As this is of great personal importance to me, this game is not as fun to me as I hoped it would be."
Her final conclusion is:
At no point is she demaning a boycot, saying people should be fired or being outraged in any other way. She simply explains what is important to her in a cyberpunk game, why that is so, how this specific game is and what she thinks of it. It is an individual opinion about a computer game, eloquently written. Does this mean she 'HATES the game'? Or that she is 'CRYING'? Puh-lease.
And predictably you end up with a bunch of dudes who get their panties in a twist because of the unspeakable horror of someone, somewhere having the nerve to voice a different opinion about a computer game based on different interests and preferences. And as a straight white middleclass dude my perspective is indeed different from hers, and the impact of trans representation is going to be virtually non-existent to my enjoyment of the game. In other words: I may not have the same opinion as her about this game. So what. Heck, this was so far the only review that added a perspective beyond the endlessly repeated 'game looks rad, rather traditional gameplay though, and bugs galore.' that is pretty much every other review.
Fortunately, for the people who are CRYING about this and HATE her review, some good news: they can increase the size of their junk in the game, so at least in Night City they wont have to drag their small willy energy around.
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Yeah, and I dont for a second believe the 'they are all on old builds and D1 patch will fix it!' hope some have. Up until two weeks ago it was still not 100% clear whether it would be playable enough for any kind of release whatsoever, and they desperately don't want to end up with a January release no matter what. This is gonna be rough. Y'all might wanna stock up on popcorn because the collective meltdown is going to be epic.
With the usual pinch of salt as regards the reviews at this point. If true then this could have a similar effect on the game as the initial release of Mass Effect Andromeda. Massively anticipated game destroyed by the internet not an hour after release with all those janky animations and bad errors made into insta-memes
CDP could well pull this at the final hour, and give it another 3 months in the studio.
CDP could well pull this at the final hour, and give it another 3 months in the studio.
I don't think I have ever seen this level of hype surrounding a game. Its way beyond NMS-hype, like 'life-altering once-in-a-lifetime event'. Even if the game would release 100% polished and bug-free you're still going to see a complete meltdown from people who realise CP77 is in the end just a game. And with the number of people who pre-order, you will inevitably end with tens of thousands of people who won't even be able to get into the main menu for whatever reason. And that is before the bugs start.
I might not even launch the game myself and just enjoy twitter and reddit for a bit.
I am sure the gaming communities would respond calmly and sensibly about that in the mature way we've seen the last few delays.
Have seen plenty of bad media that was trying to be inclusive. Haven't seen any media that was bad because it was trying to be inclusive.
Of course, this doesn't seem to be very relevant when it comes to Cyberpunk 2077 which is about as conventional as could be expected for a title with mass market appeal.
As for bugs, this is the continuation of a 25 year, industry wide, trend of releasing unfinished games. I'm not surprised and I'm not going to make a big deal out of it, cause really, I've been alpha testing Elite: Dangerous for more than six years and it would feel a bit hypocritical to single out Cyberpunk for a buggy release give some of the other crap I'll put up with.
Of course, this doesn't seem to be very relevant when it comes to Cyberpunk 2077 which is about as conventional as could be expected for a title with mass market appeal.
As for bugs, this is the continuation of a 25 year, industry wide, trend of releasing unfinished games. I'm not surprised and I'm not going to make a big deal out of it, cause really, I've been alpha testing Elite: Dangerous for more than six years and it would feel a bit hypocritical to single out Cyberpunk for a buggy release give some of the other crap I'll put up with.
Insta-memes dint hurt NMS that much, though.
Really? I'm not following the hype maybe now, but I found the NMS craze way beyond deluded. Holy cow, that was like HC Star Citisnt fans imagining all the games rolled in one and don't you dare criticise their precious dreams.
I've played a lot of CP tabletop - I have no idea what ppl imagine CP 2077 will be in terms of their salvation, but I'd be happy with a working, believable urban open world with lots of tech gadgets and a heavy focus on combat.
The thing is, I do get it. I just don't get involved in the outrage or identity politics online.
I'm a bisexual man (who has lived with a woman for the last 17 years and has a teenage daughter) and who always roleplays a woman in games. "Juniper" is a character I created back in the 1990s for that specific purpose. When I was much younger and more confused about everything, it used to bother me, but nowadays I don't crave acceptance & I'm quite comfortable in my own skin on that front. If you understand, fine. If not, also fine. I think most of the outrage you see from the LGBTQ+ "community" comes from people who are still coming to terms with themselves, and get very upset if cis folk don't fully empathise with them on it.
As I understand it, because of the body mod thing, you can play as a woman and graft a willy onto yourself if you want. I may do this, just to see how the game reacts to that. I would suspect not a lot. And that's fine.
As it was (I think) me you're referring to discussing Star Trek, I think I better clarify.
There are a few people who have issues with dystopian cyberpunk type settings because they tend to be horrible, not inclusive places as a rule.
However they like the style so when its square peg-round holed lightly imposed onto a reimagining/reboot/retread theyre told they have to like by main stream media outlets (like we saw with the weird tonal shift to continuity we saw in Picard) they lap it up.
My point wasnt that such representation shouldn't be in such media, more that whether it is/isnt should be driven by the setting, vision, story or writing and if it isnt there we shouldnt automatically jump to the worst conclusion.
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I have absolutely no issues with controversial content in a game and various sexual orientation as long it adds something to the story it tries to tell.
I rather have issues with things like taking a historic content and then moaning about representation - like for example in the movie Ford vs. Ferrari, depicting white men and a traditional father-son relationship.
I rather have issues with things like taking a historic content and then moaning about representation - like for example in the movie Ford vs. Ferrari, depicting white men and a traditional father-son relationship.
This thing is super trending on social media in general, way outside just gaming communities. It has been on the front page of Imgur every single day for literally months. There have been endless product tie-ins (big F for the poor souls who bought a CP77-themed 2080 'to play the game the way it is meant to be played'...) and anything to do with Keanu Reeves is instant gold to hordes of people.
Oh, I completely agree. And I think the idea of almost ignoring the whole gender identity politics mess in CP 2077 is 100% a good and progressive step.
People are just people - whatever their junk. We're not defined by our gender or sexuality in 2077 (or in 2360 or 3210 or wherever Disco is set this week).
We've moved on.
What I expect:
Another great open-world game the likes of CDPR previous titles, this time in an urban punk setting, that will last me hundreds or even thousands of hours of entertainment for years after purchase.
Release bugs or not, I remain pretty confident I will still get well above my 60$ worth, even if the game turns out not to be the second coming of christ or whatever.
That being said, like I said before, I truly wish gaming studios would quit announcing release dates way before they knew with absolute certainty the game would be both finished and polished. If a game is released in June 2021 instead of October 2020 no harm will come to the world. Gaming seems to be the only branch of the entertainment industry where this happens, I don't remember ever seeing a movie producer announce theather premieres while the movie was still being filmed.
There is just no good reason to announce release dates with so many months, or sometimes over a year in advance. Gaming studios (at least triple-A studios) no longer need to setup distribution chains in advance, and they no longer need any external "press" coverage or reviews, they have their own communication channels for marketing and outreach, and digital distribution can be setup in a few days at most.
Another great open-world game the likes of CDPR previous titles, this time in an urban punk setting, that will last me hundreds or even thousands of hours of entertainment for years after purchase.
Release bugs or not, I remain pretty confident I will still get well above my 60$ worth, even if the game turns out not to be the second coming of christ or whatever.
That being said, like I said before, I truly wish gaming studios would quit announcing release dates way before they knew with absolute certainty the game would be both finished and polished. If a game is released in June 2021 instead of October 2020 no harm will come to the world. Gaming seems to be the only branch of the entertainment industry where this happens, I don't remember ever seeing a movie producer announce theather premieres while the movie was still being filmed.
There is just no good reason to announce release dates with so many months, or sometimes over a year in advance. Gaming studios (at least triple-A studios) no longer need to setup distribution chains in advance, and they no longer need any external "press" coverage or reviews, they have their own communication channels for marketing and outreach, and digital distribution can be setup in a few days at most.
I remember when Kingdom Come Deliverance (another game I love - play it if you can) came out, and the internet went insane about how there were no black people in 12th century Bohemia.
Well, duh...
The creator was trolled endlessly on Twitter, branded a racist, etc.
I honestly think there is way more talking about hype, than hype itself.
I remember when Kingdom Come Deliverance (another game I love - play it if you can) came out, and the internet went insane about how there were no black people in 12th century Bohemia.
Well, duh...
The creator was trolled endlessly on Twitter, branded a racist, etc.
Aye remember that myself it was a real mess of stupidity. Thing I found ridiculous was why people were so lit about it not having some peoples idea of diversity in it.
End of the day that developer made a game in their vision of things, theres absolutely nothing stopping a developer making a historical game and put all the people they want in there. Crack on guys and make that.
After playing such
That's a rhetorical question...of course you can't!!!!1111one
Hype means pre-orders.
Think that NMS is sorta a poor example here, it's a largely impersonal non story driven thing (certainly when it released). Whereas games like Mass Effect live or die on the characters and story. Andromeda contained so many bugs that really pinged on the that games initial release expectation. Albeit in my opinion forgivable and patchable bugs.