So PC users are merely performing extended beta testing of the next big console release?
Fail fast and fail hard should be my mantra for life...
Spacelegs should have no involvment/influence in BG's until Odyssey is released on all platforms
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So PC users are merely performing extended beta testing of the next big console release?
Fail fast and fail hard should be my mantra for life...
They probably freaked when they saw what happened to cyberpunk
Its an interesting proposal, but as has been pointed out, BGS can still be influenced.
The main concern would be if space legs enabled working the BGS more effectively than from ship. As long as it is on par (or worse) then there isn't an issue.
This could potentially be a problem, because as we know, sometimes FD get the values out of whack for various activities and players, being clever, might find ways to really be effective with space legs in ways that FD didn't consider or intend. And FD being FD, might then take weeks or months to adjust.
Regardless, while that risk exists, i don't think its a good enough reason to block BGS from space legs.
The main concern would be if space legs enabled working the BGS more effectively than from ship. As long as it is on par (or worse) then there isn't an issue.
This could potentially be a problem, because as we know, sometimes FD get the values out of whack for various activities and players, being clever, might find ways to really be effective with space legs in ways that FD didn't consider or intend. And FD being FD, might then take weeks or months to adjust.
Regardless, while that risk exists, i don't think its a good enough reason to block BGS from space legs.
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I mean, if people prefer BGS work over a stable and smooth running game, let them have at it
I'm sure a constantly crashing game barely achieving a stable 20fps is a small price to pay to be able to move in-game progress bars around.
I think I would delay the PC final release as well (to be in line with consoles), but extend the alpha/beta trial period.
And on top of that... Horizons BGS activities on surface bases weren't suspended when Horizons wasn't on all platforms.
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I wouldn't, but I think the DLC will be at least stable enough on PC to run properly - it'll still be full of bugs either way, and with a pay walled alpha (did they even mention a beta? Not sure) I'm doubtful how effective testing and bug squashing will be. Most people probably just see it as a paid early access demo anyways.
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And on top of that.. what should we do with those players who are not planning to buy Odyssey? Exclude the BGS until they change their mind, or until Odyssey is folded into the main game?
That I don't see happening unfortunately as they committed to a 2021 financial year release (end of May for Frontier). Odyssey is supposed to be out in late spring so I imagine the timing isn't coincidence.
Thing is, we could all be sitting here with our nice stable console game watching PC players burying this place in salt and thinking we dodged a bullet. My guess is Autumn is when the game will actually be ready to play on all platforms following all the fixes on PC. Remember how long it's taken to fix the game after some regular updates?
Thats very optimistic, it took 2 years to "almost" fix mining prices alone. And that was just a case of changing some numbers.
Quite possibly. I would still anticipate some fixes being done between PC release and console release.
Although, I don't know how mining prices of around 1.5 million per ton could stay that long in the game either.
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And not to forget all the things that broke while trying to fix other things, or things just breaking because reasons.
Thinking about that, I'm already dreading all the bugs Odyssey will introduce to the existing game:|
Yeah, it's gonna suck for a while. Often this game feels like: "We changed the texture for SRV tire tracks and now planets no longer orbit stars".
what's the point in caring about the BGS at all ?
there's rampant cheating that goes undetected by Fdev if they only cheat againts npcs (the bgs) that allows players to 1 shot kill npcs and auto-pilot
there's no way to compete against that as a non-cheater. You basically have to hope that your activities are uncontested by anyone in a free account.
there's rampant cheating that goes undetected by Fdev if they only cheat againts npcs (the bgs) that allows players to 1 shot kill npcs and auto-pilot
there's no way to compete against that as a non-cheater. You basically have to hope that your activities are uncontested by anyone in a free account.
BGs-like soundtrack for Odyssey? Gibb me pls.
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Is there any hard evidence on this? Genuinely interested as I've only just gotten into BGS stuff myself.
Should we also all stop playing and wait for all the potential players who haven't bought the game yet to buy it and catch up with the headstart we all have, irrespective of platform? I don't see the situation with the delayed console release any differently. Consoles were also late to the party back in 2015, as far as I know they did okay regardless.
It all happens in Solo too... Allegedly a scripted bot forgot to leave open...
(Is often the refrain here!)
if you google that system name that crashes elite dangerous, it'll take you to one of the various (publicly accessible) cheating webpages where they openly talk about how they keep below fdev's detection radar.
and we've had numerous instances of player groups on this forum post about what they can only infer is cheating based on unrealistic activity. But as players, we have very few tools to tell what some other player is doing in solo that would provide any definitive proof. But we can see how popular and accessible the tools are for players to do it and put 2 & 2 together. Add hundreds of thousands of free accounts where there is no risk a player is taking by diving into the cheating world and you have a recipe for just an explosion of players willing to tempt fate.
and we've had numerous instances of player groups on this forum post about what they can only infer is cheating based on unrealistic activity. But as players, we have very few tools to tell what some other player is doing in solo that would provide any definitive proof. But we can see how popular and accessible the tools are for players to do it and put 2 & 2 together. Add hundreds of thousands of free accounts where there is no risk a player is taking by diving into the cheating world and you have a recipe for just an explosion of players willing to tempt fate.
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Consoles players are coming off as a bit spoiled over this delay. Remember, it's not really their fault, they are just rather used to getting most other games at the same time, or often enough, well before PC gamers, (if the PC is getting it at all), that they just don't expect to have to wait longer than PC.