But console players get unlimited alts though?
Does FDev care about botting?
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But console players get unlimited alts though?
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Jesus - easy on the detail!
Then the only fair course of action should be to make ED console only, then the "master race" won't cheat, or moan about cheating. Plus they would release Oddessey sooner on xbox and ps.
Or just design gameloops that can't be botted easily- which would mean more involving gameplay and drift away from Netflix while you make tea flying to Hutton.
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Others, like myself?
As I moved my FC to Colonia without said macro, but I was darn tempted to install it - because even though I decided to take the scenic route (again), it was a complete and utter chore to move it because I had to be within the vicinity to refuel it (my alt is not yet ready to take on this role) and manually plotting dozens of jumps individually isn't the most riveting gameplay ever conceived, either.The FC macro afaik is widely known and posts on this very forum not being moderated suggest that FD is ok with it existing i.e. not cheating. It's a QoL feature sorely missing from the game, which is all I'm saying. Working the BGS by running dedicated CMDR accounts fully automated really isn't the same thing.
Ahh making a cuppa while flying to hutton, 3307's best loved pass time. Personally I recon it should be SUPER BREW ASSIST
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People still fly to Hutton?
I went there for the first time ever a few weeks ago, only took about 20 minutes. You wouldn't believe how I did it (and nabbed 150 Hutton Mugs in the process, currently selling them peu a peu in Colonia).
I AM CHEAT
Whether or not you legitimize automation scripts in game, (because it's you know, Colonia and those guys do no wrong), it's against the terms of service. Here is fdev's own wording on the matter, "Others, like myself?
The FC macro afaik is widely known and posts on this very forum not being moderated suggest that FD is ok with it existing i.e. not cheating. It's a QoL feature sorely missing from the game, which is all I'm saying. Working the BGS by running dedicated CMDR accounts fully automated really isn't the same thing.
CHEATING
We do not tolerate cheating of any kind in our online multiplayer games. This includes, but is not limited to, the use of automated scripts, programs or services offered outside of the game to generate a player advantage
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I don't think I'm the only person upset that automation scripts get used and are so widely accepted by the player base because, it is Colonia. But if it's BGS, OH NOOOO!!! But if it's a carrier selling at Colonia, OH THATS OKAY.
Like I said, that thread rubbed me the wrong way a long time ago, because I'm a trader out to make money, and that's why I remembered it and decided to post it here, and it's because I wanted to make money in Colonia, but when I saw BOTS going to Colonia to sell, well I can't compete with that and I play within the rules.
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So why are Frontier not doing anything about the threads or indeed banning CMDRs that are using the macro if it's so illegal?
I'll let that underhanded swing against Colonia slide no idea what you're referring to.
actually, comes under GPDR regs. they can't actually say who they've banned.. breaks privacy.. the banned can say what happened, but FDev can't say anything other than "we banned so many for various rules"
If you want the answer to that, read the title of this thread.
The only time I went I fixed a sink during the flight, such was the interaction. But this is what I mean, in general point to point flights very little happens. FD spanked themselves by making NAVs largely vestigial, station drop areas too small (so no NPC interaction), inept NPC interdictions, and fixed end points. Make a mission involve having to do more means more brainfood for you, and a harder time for bots to do to the point where no software can automate. ED is frustratingly close to that point, but also really far away.
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They do seem to at least shadow ban offenders though from what I read from the post Rubbernuke shared earlier, so that's clearly not the case.
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This indicates to me that Frontier are concerned with bots that give the users a PvP advantage. Out-hauling humans in PowerPlay or BGS contests, for instance.
Some people have also mentioned using Voice Attack macros for pip-management. That sounds like a more dubious activity to me, because it can give the user an actual combat advantage.
But there is no clear "player advantage" in a Carrier auto-jump script. People in Colonia will buy your tritium, however you get it there (and however long it takes). Do unemployed people, or those who work from home and can run ED in the background, have a similar advantage because they can move their Carriers once every 20 minutes? What about console users, with their free alts, who can stash dozens of tritium-loaded T9's on one Carrier? Quite a can of worms there.
Humans cannot compete with bots! It's one thing to work getting to Colonia to sell tritium, but it's quite another for someone to just run a script to do the same thing. It's unfair to the traders who don't automate. I don't get why people can legitimate bots for selling tritium (which hurts legitimate traders), but it is wrong if someone using bots for the BGS or power play.
Have you actually delivered tritium to Colonia and then found that you were unable to sell it "because of the botting"?
If not, then how were you "unable to compete"?
Sure there is...it removes the need for player interaction which makes it faster and easier to move carriers where they can be useful, including in ways that would impact the game for others.
They have an advantage, but as that advantage comes from being able to spend more time actually interacting with/playing the game, it's not a cheat. It's certainly not a form of automation if one is doing it all manually.
yea, but they have to pay to play in open/pg
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