If it's a point of interest it's probably less 'exploration' and more 'tourism'. That said, I don't find the presence of hostile CMDRs while out exploring, or sightseeing, to be problematic, from a gameplay perspective. Indeed, if it were a more credible approximation of exploration, there would be more competition, and the dangers that go along with it.
How Gankers Made my Game more Fun.
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If it's a point of interest it's probably less 'exploration' and more 'tourism'. That said, I don't find the presence of hostile CMDRs while out exploring, or sightseeing, to be problematic, from a gameplay perspective. Indeed, if it were a more credible approximation of exploration, there would be more competition, and the dangers that go along with it.
I doubt it. Then again - I find the whole murderhobo galaxy not very convincing either.
Historically, real explorers have often been armed to the teeth, because that was part of preparing for both known and unknown threats. Mutinies, claim jumpers, hostile natives, other explorers sponsored by hostile states, etc and so forth, were frequent possibilities. If anything, prominent fictional explorers are even more militant.
If someone else knows about it and can get to it, assuming that no one else will be there, or that everyone else going there will be friendly, is pretty silly, IMO.
When I first started, I died daily by npcs, stations, outposts, and stupid gravity. When I went into Open I still died more often to the npcs and draconian rules of the orbitals than gankers.
A death is a death. A rebuy a rebuy.
Yet for a couple of deaths by a PvPer, an anti-PvPer is born.
It is a given, that if you break the rules of the Orbital station, like for instance, "loitering", you will be killed.
It is a given, if you click Open, you may be shot.
Everyone seems to readily accept being killed by NPCS, orbitals, toast racks, etc. However, upon clicking Open, some, not all, get enraged when shot at by a human. How dare that human not share the same set of belief systems as me in this pretend video game!
Their rage is then directed at all PvPers.
Yes, it is your fault if you broke a station's rules.
And yes, it is partially your fault if you clicked Open.
Fdev knew what would occur and hence PG and Solo modes. Nevertheless, because of that one unfortunate day in Open, all PvPers sometimes become reviled.
I always play in Solo if I do not want to be shot.
There's a lot of salt thrown at humans by humans on both sides of the fence. There really needs to be more salt thrown at the mail slots and landing pads.
A death is a death. A rebuy a rebuy.
Yet for a couple of deaths by a PvPer, an anti-PvPer is born.
It is a given, that if you break the rules of the Orbital station, like for instance, "loitering", you will be killed.
It is a given, if you click Open, you may be shot.
Everyone seems to readily accept being killed by NPCS, orbitals, toast racks, etc. However, upon clicking Open, some, not all, get enraged when shot at by a human. How dare that human not share the same set of belief systems as me in this pretend video game!
Their rage is then directed at all PvPers.
Yes, it is your fault if you broke a station's rules.
And yes, it is partially your fault if you clicked Open.
Fdev knew what would occur and hence PG and Solo modes. Nevertheless, because of that one unfortunate day in Open, all PvPers sometimes become reviled.
I always play in Solo if I do not want to be shot.
There's a lot of salt thrown at humans by humans on both sides of the fence. There really needs to be more salt thrown at the mail slots and landing pads.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Both are playing within the rules of the game - only one is completely avoidable by design.I can empathise, I feel the same about large player supported factions playing in private groups
...and White Dwarf Stars...
Are you proposing Open only BGS manipulation? Play the game as it is, not the one you want it to be
If not busy I friend and wing up with random Cmdrs when I ask first and tell them I am Chaotic Good
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Nope. We do play the game as it is - that does not stop people seeking changes that would benefit them even if they would adversely affect others, Open only being a case in point.Are you proposing Open only BGS manipulation? Play the game as it is, not the one you want it to be
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I think I can agree with that without it detracting from my original statement
. I guess my point of view is that the game was billed as something much worse than it was by some outspoken/disillusioned players, and I wish I could explain that to new/potential players.Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Like UA bombing, Frontier decided to change that by themselves, not players.Or removing the old exploration tools? You just keep digging that hole
So you agree there is a place for Gankers, and that they can really add to the game, just not yours.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
I have no doubt that they add to some players' gameplay - let's just say that they're an acquired taste, not unlike Marmite in that respect.
So you agree there is a place for Gankers, and that they can really add to the game, just not yours?
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Not in mine or, from anecdotal evidence, a not insignificant number of other players, yes.
You don't even have to be a PvPer, I can tell you!When I first started, I died daily by npcs, stations, outposts, and stupid gravity. When I went into Open I still died more often to the npcs and draconian rules of the orbitals than gankers.
A death is a death. A rebuy a rebuy.
Yet for a couple of deaths by a PvPer, an anti-PvPer is born.
It is a given, that if you break the rules of the Orbital station, like for instance, "loitering", you will be killed.
It is a given, if you click Open, you may be shot.
Everyone seems to readily accept being killed by NPCS, orbitals, toast racks, etc. However, upon clicking Open, some, not all, get enraged when shot at by a human. How dare that human not share the same set of belief systems as me in this pretend video game!
Their rage is then directed at all PvPers.
Yes, it is your fault if you broke a station's rules.
And yes, it is partially your fault if you clicked Open.
Fdev knew what would occur and hence PG and Solo modes. Nevertheless, because of that one unfortunate day in Open, all PvPers sometimes become reviled.
I always play in Solo if I do not want to be shot.
There's a lot of salt thrown at humans by humans on both sides of the fence. There really needs to be more salt thrown at the mail slots and landing pads.
Oh and I'm not sure, I was pretty furious when the game crashed yesterday just at the denouement of a particularly stubborn wing assassination mission
They were exploring a world inhabited by other people, tribes, nations who were armed and protective of their property. Not an empty galaxy.
Would Captains Jean luc Picard and Katharine Janeway go exploring without shields and weapons?
[edit] I mean even the "runabouts" had shields and weak sauce weapons....
[edit] I mean even the "runabouts" had shields and weak sauce weapons....