I love posts like this. You know, posts about places where fdev aren't, but which are apparently relevant.
Important context surrounding FDev's decision to delay Odyssey - what's actually happening here in the UK
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Are both places big cities with a ton of covid infections? Hmmm so strange I wonder what the connection is...
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Love how within a mere 15 pages this forum can go from rationally putting context into the delay of a game, to asserting with a straight face that Los Angeles and Cambridge are pretty much the same thing. 
Haven't people been working from home since pretty much the beginning of the plandemic?
Search the archives. Don't be lazy.
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Agree. Our s/w team today is as productive as before COVID. Those s/w companies that aren't must have management problems.
What? Both of them?
Now, I don't know - so you may...
Can a PS4 Dev kit be just taken home and connected to one's PC, or does it really need to live somewhere connected to the server farm to function correctly?
If the former, then an explanation of the delay might be expected - the latter and no surprise at all, as access to the the office resources would have had a very small 'window' in the past 9 months and may be quite difficult to arrange currently.
I'm actually in agreement with you, Frontier explaining why the delay for consoles would be very nice, but would it actually stop the discontent and complaints?
No.
Certainly not all of them, but a little context might placate the sensible among us, who at the moment - after putting so many hours into our console accounts over the years - may be feeling like so much jettisoned cargo.
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I agree. Everyone seems to be concerned with having dev teams crunched up together during the Covid problem, not realising that, with developing software, you can ALL work from home with a suitable connection to the office servers and a discord channel or similar to allow the teams to communicate. They work from home, but essentially, they are in the same virtual office.
The ONLY team required to attend the office are the ones responsible for keeping the servers up and running, since you can't deal with physical hardware problems online. I'd say it will be some time before we have robots that can be remotely controlled to replace RAM chips, hard drives and check electrical circuits etc. But since those teams are already there, it wouldn't change anything.
Yes, I know for a fact that, what's actually happening here in the UK is that many companies are using Covid as an excuse for failing to do what they promised or are contracted to do.
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Well I heard from a virtual man in a virtual pub who heard it off a virtual man that the Government is actually a major backer of Star Citizen and they have introduced lockdown to slow down Odyssey in the hopes that SC will catch up and release first as its too embarrassing for them to be beaten again. Apparently if Odyssey release first anyway they will start calling SC a Quadruple AAAA game instead which has never been done before.
.Good enough for ya?
(Just in case this is lost in translation its pure nonsense and completely made up....a bit like SC in that regard actually)
Keep safe all.
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Not seen you around for a while - great to have you back
Not seen you around for a while - great to have you back
Its not exactly fair to simply lump all types of software development in the same boat as games companies don't work the same as your average .Net/Python teams that mill out business logic and SQL which is light-weight to work with remotely...
I went over just a few examples in a previous post but I'll re-iterate a few here:
- How do sound/art teams collect research assets now that field trips are off?
- How are these teams impacted by using remote desktops? Can you use art/sound tools in the same way or do you need to supply them hardware?
- How do QA teams that previously worked with multiple large builds on test-hardware now function on domestic networks? Are they now downloading huge builds + assets onto consoles at home or accessing a remote system, this would seem to impact their ability to work with real hardware.
- The same is true for programmers when they are testing their code, that isn't going to work very well on a standard remote desktop. They are going to have to execute the game natively (unless they have some amazing method of streaming the game in execution) that's going to mean providing devs with machines to take home, again downloading massive bleeding edge builds and assets to work with on home networks.
- How is security impacted if assets are now being supplied to domestic machines & home networks in the examples above?
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Both you and I know that appealing against one who knows for a fact that everyone in the UK is blaming COVID-19 for everything from next door's cat digging holes in the lawn to the scrapping of Concorde is wasted effort
The forum is full of AAA developers and CEO's of massive multinational companies (among the night-soil collectors) who all claim that Frontier wouldn't know the truth if it bit their leg, have a bunch of interns doing their major development and that if they told you what day it is you had better ask for a second opinion...
Of course, the most amusing thing is that all of the above appear to have been personally 'damaged' because of a slight delay in the release of some DLC (that will not be worth having, see above) and have to proclaim, loudly, in the game forum just how terrible the world is...
You & me? Well, just shrug and look forward to the alpha / release, whenever that might be
Not completely true. Not everyone is as productive at home as they are in the office. If you and your team are doing better than normal then good for you. However, that can't be said the same for people who don't have the same environment as yourselves. eg, People may have kids doing lessons, a partner doing constant zoom calls, all while trying to remote work yourself without interruption and the internet provider not being able to cope with the load (even though they claimed the could).
My point is that It all depends on your circumstances. If you've got a private office / man cave (Or woman cave
) to escape to then you probably be just as productive but even then trying to get hold of colleagues when they're not available is a chore. Where as, in the office, they would be sat close to you and you can get information for the things you need practically instantly.It just strikes me that people who generalise with comments like the above have no understanding or empathy that there are people who are struggling working through this lockdown and that does have an impact on everything they do.
The more I think about it, the more of an absolute cluster-headache it must be.
Think about all the hardware compatibility that a studio normally works with having immediate access to. Does someone just take Frontier's entire cache of VR head-sets and HOTAS controllers home in the back of a car one day?
Extend that to other perhipherals like graphics cards!
Think about all the hardware compatibility that a studio normally works with having immediate access to. Does someone just take Frontier's entire cache of VR head-sets and HOTAS controllers home in the back of a car one day?
Extend that to other perhipherals like graphics cards!
Or even Xbox / PS4 Development Consoles? Which may explain the delay in the console release?The more I think about it, the more of an absolute cluster-headache it must be.
Think about all the hardware compatibility that a studio normally works with having immediate access to. Does someone just take Frontier's entire cache of VR head-sets and HOTAS controllers home in the back of a car one day?
Extend that to other perhipherals like graphics cards!
(Me being under the impression that they might not be able to usefully implement their purpose from a home environment - but not actually knowing for sure)
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