Slave Carriers Update
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Spare a though for the anti-botters at this difficult time because no one is talking about that anymore
Frankly I have a hunch that the entire ED slave business is more of a legacy thing. I'm not entirely convinced that it would be even included if the game came out now.
Well Frontier are no strangers to adding and removing features so fingers crossed Polygon does a follow up article on the evils of NPC slavery and Frontier does an about turn.
How is todays slavery different to 2014? In real world and in game?
Well the original Elite came out in 1984, Elite Dangerous came out in 2014 and slavery has been illegal in the UK since 1838 so its not like at any point anyone thought slavery was morally ok.
Elite Dangerous has made Imperial slavery explicitly part of the lore, so again I dont think its inclusion is merely to pander to the old fans.
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There's "drug references" and there's "use of drugs". Those are two different things.
You can't click on the drugs and select "use" to get crazy UI effects. You can't get enslaved yourself. Having those things as references is pretty different from having them as a simulated direct experience.
so , how many people are we talking about here? A couple of kids?
Although let's not forget that the article literally says a 10 year old could see through this.I don't normally frequent Polygon but had a look (thanks for the link btw), I had to stop at the point where I learned that apparently you can delegate supervision of a minor to ... another minor
The tone of the piece from the very outset made it impossible for me to continue reading it. Awful stuff (and they even manage to misspell a simple six-letter word like "image" - quality journalism all round).
Roughly 20 iirc?
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Honestly, the one party who needs to be concerned about their reputation at this point is Polygon really. Although I guess faux-outrage and fake news is all the rage these days so maybe they don't have to after all.
The reference wasn't to the state of real world slavery, rather than depictions of slavery in entertainment purposes, in this case, video games. I'm not expressing an opinion here, but it's a fact that modern computer games are far more exposed to outside media publicity than they were in 2014, not to even talk about 1984.
Also iirc some chose to stay after the "scheme" was unveiled.
Stockholm syndrome? or the deal was actually not that bad for them newbs?
So this internet outrage is all because a small group of people told 20 other people to play a game a certain way?
jesus wept.
No but I can equip my ship with the onionhead decal which is an ingame narcotic.
No, this outrage is about one journalist telling the internet we should all be outraged.
It's sad to see where its all going. "Blaze your own trail!", oh wait you cant heres a ban from FD carebears. No fun allowed.
Rust and Ark didn't seem to care about the media
Yes. Seriously.
Look at the bigger picture - Elite is a product first, and a video game second.
It shouldn't really be surprising that the owner of that product can (and has) get all precious about it falling into disrepute. They don't give two hoots about the injustice you point out, regardless of how community managers may present things. They definitely do care about negative press becuase of "emergent gameplay" being a bit too emergent for their tastes.
Like I said before, do as I say don't do as I do.
Sure, to clarify I was also talking about slavery in this game.
For me I dont see Elite including slavery as ethically or morally a problem, because its a game and players are given the freedom to act how they please.
In the same way the Mass Effect games let you make evil "renegade" choices, this does mean that the developers are condoning this behaviour or that players who make those choices are doing so, its is after all a digital fantasy.
I dont think any reasonable person sees these things and thinks to themselves "Ah yes because I have made an evil choice in a game that makes it morally acceptable"?
Indeed the lack of any controversy in the games media about slavery or drugs or indeed straight out murder in Elite is a testament to that.
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