Slave Carriers Update

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When you join the game in solo, the menu is saying that you won't meet any commanders. Not that you will not be affected by their acctions.
The game relies on forwarding player actions between modes and platforms

Oh c'mon now North... do you really think, considering very common new Cmdr questions about how to plot a route, how to change modules, what are fire groups, I paused the game but died, etc. That most new Cmdrs have any comprehension of the bizarre and unique single-shared-galaxy-mode-separation-but-not-really-separated nuances of ED?

Before you answer, I remember when you first joined the forums and started asking questions.😉
 
In the first paragraph you say only really dense clueless people could fall for this. Then follow that up by saying these were not dense clueless people with low IQ and that we shouldn't feel sorry for them. Which is it?

I'm reaching the conclusion that you're taking the <mickey> here.

If you're familiar with cases of modern slavery (actual modern slavery) they often involve people who are bordeline illiterate, IQ in the sub-85 range, often having personality disorders, the kind of people who would qualify to access mental health support workers and generally have difficulty operating in society. Those are the people I was referring to and they are the people that this 'poor HELPLESS noob' paradigm could reasonably refer to. I very much doubt that many of them spend their spare time playing Elite Dangerous and browsing Polygon. They spend their time living in caravans crying.

Do you or do you not agree that it is reasonable to assume someone who has already bought, downloaded, set up and launched a complicated computer game has the necessary smarts to then ask a question on google or the game's forum? That's the benchmark you need to be concerned with. If yes, they are not in any way helpless in the way that the people I am describing above are. What they are is what most people would colloquialy refer to as 'a bit thick'. Or lazy. Or both. They are not in any way 'helpless' though, any more than you or I would be in the same situation.
 
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No, and way too simplistic.

This would be like raising someone in a bubble for 20 years without any outside knowledge of poker or anything else, and then throwing them into a card game with Fedor Holz for winner take all.

And even that's probalby a stupid wrong analogy but point is, It's only a fair game when both sides know the rules....

Ignorance doesn't excuse new players.

Fact is there was creative use of game mechanics. Carebears gonna cry. They got shutdown.

Real shame, as per usual.
 
LOL..... Oh I see, as long as it's intended scamming.
There are in-game repercussions for assault (bounty*) and murder (bounty* and notoriety), hence they are normal gameplay elements. There is no in-game repercussion for the intentional abduction (by confidence trick) and abuse of other commanders using one or more fleet carriers. Hence doing so is not intended gameplay and thus governed by out-of-game rules (the code of conduct).

*) Whether they are effective deterrents is a different topic to explore
 
it doesn't need you to rewrite your legal page.
This has nothing to do with the new-way-fdev-embarassed-themselves-yet-again at hand, this is required by the law:

The slavers have a discord full of parephenallia. Frontier ought to rain fire on them until the only left for them is starving to death in the streets.
Yeah about that. Discord smacked them quite fast, and I suspect it was rather as @Linnunrata wrote, that it was a modern equivalent of an ape cage, throwing feces and n-words left and right. 4chan / 8chan / whatever-chan "humour". If it was really , Discord would shut them down. May I remind you that Discord literally shut down the /r/wallstreetbets discord for a while out of fear of the same allegations of ONE GUY? And then backtracked? So did the scummy polygon in one of their "updates"...

When you join the game in solo, the menu is saying that you won't meet any commanders. Not that you will not be affected by their acctions.
The game relies on forwarding player actions between modes and platforms
Well it is not unreasonable to assume that a fleet carrier can jump. It is unreasonable to assume that a space station can jump, but Jaques did ;-) Whether they are AI or player controlled, doesn't really matter. From a player perspective he is docking on a large ship that can jump any minute. The phrase "fleet carrier" literally tells you that.
 
Oh c'mon now North... do you really think, considering very common new Cmdr questions about how to plot a route, how to change modules, what are fire groups, I paused the game but died, etc. That most new Cmdrs have any comprehension of the bizarre and unique single-shared-galaxy-mode-separation-but-not-really-separated nuances of ED?

Before you answer, I remember when you first joined the forums and started asking questions.😉

Shhh!
Dont mention me trying to point out to the entire community that the damage for huge multicannons is wrongly displayed :D
 
You've met "humans" right?

ASSUME NOTHING.

True but I don't see it as a game developer's job to ensure that all of the 2m+ accounts they sold plus the reported 8m they gave away via Epic Games are in the hands of people who have an absolutely basic level of competence when it comes to using the internet. I think it's entirely reasonable to infer that level of competence by the simple fact that a player has already been able to perform steps that are far more complicated than asking a question in a web forum or via a google search just to get to that point. For me, you're not talking about incompetence there, you're talking negligence. The problem is not in any way a lack of ability.

This might be a shock but I too knew the square root of frak all about the game when I started playing it. Oddly enough the same was true with most other games I started playing for the fist time, yet somehow using the ability to read and formulate simple questions in my mother tongue I was able to navigate this hellishly difficult landscape. I never realised what I was doing was so special within my cohort of fellow gamers.
 
There are in-game repercussions for assault (bounty*) and murder (bounty* and notoriety), hence they are normal gameplay elements. There is no in-game repercussion for the intentional abduction (by confidence trick) and abuse of other commanders using one or more fleet carriers. Hence doing so is not intended gameplay and thus governed by out-of-game rules (the code of conduct).

*) Whether they are effective deterrents is a different topic to explore
Using a neutron star is intended gameplay and it can strand you by confidence trick that you can go back while you cannot. The repercussions are exactly the same as for these poor, poor children. Ban Frontier. :poop:
 
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