Exiting to MENU while in combat/interdicted/ganked is within the rules. Let nobody tell you otherwise.

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Whats that a (ex) Ganker justifying combat logging? well I never.

Perhaps the end of those few days ganking ended up with them on the receiving end of it...

But yes, Menu logging is perfectly legal in the middle of combat, just considered bad form.

No.. just the C&P system did its intended purpose. I could care less about being ganked.. I have enough credits for 200x rebuys of a fully engineered FDL.. so far I've went to the rebuy screen a total of zero times while flying it. Menu logged just once so far to a bunch of cry babies. Being annoyed by notoriety however was higher than the satisfaction gained of blasting a couple of defenseless CMDRs. And they were right in the end anyway.. I had no valid reason to kill them.

So , these days I limit myself only to hostile powers (which is pretty much everybody else as I am allied with Archon Delaine.. also the pledged CMDRs sometimes even fight back which always makes it more fun). As a bonus the interaction with CMDRs after the fight is now more fun, there is no bounty (just a couple of K power based bounty sometimes) and no notoriety to deal with and I don't have to make up stupid RP reasons for killing them.

Why did you kill me???
You are pledged to Aisling.. and we are hostile
Oohh.. I did it only for the prismatics, I don't know how these powers work.
 
Solo is rubbish, I played for several hours the other day and didn't meet any other Cmdrs.

FDev need to fix their instancing, what what

Yes you do, the chat is still there in solo, its global.

Unless meeting someone for you is blowing them up, sure. But that's the point of solo to avoid that.
 
I need to confess that I combat-logged on neutron star once. The jet cone sucked me in. And began eating the ship. But when I restarted a game I found myself in the same possition and danger. I was screaming, yealing and starded punching a pillow in some kind of amok. My better half also screamed at me that I'm acting like a spoiled child. I told her to leave me alone and I acused her for not understanding this very serious mission, not undersanding me, my feelings and needs. That was one of the bad days in my life. This game is evil.
 
Personally, I have absolutely nothing against ganking. In fact, I think it livens up the game. In fact, I even tried it for a few days but erasing notoriety was such a pain that it was just not worth it. These days I limit myself to killing CMDRs that are pledged to a hostile power.

On average about 30% of the people I chase, simply log out to menu. Guess what. I am perfectly fine with that! I even tell them that it is completely within the rules for them to do so as stated here:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...ctic-to-avoid-destruction.251428/post-3904116

Let nobody else tell you otherwise! Do I do it myself? If I meet obnoxious gankers, yes... most definitely I will mess with them.. as I know it will trigger them even more than destroying their Vette. These days a rebuy means absolutely nothing.

Now I do understand the other side of the story as well. PvP is pretty much hardly playable as it is even now even without logging out. With a G5 engineered FDL (which most PvPers fly) the only way to fight until death is to pretty much agree before hand.. otherwise it is easy to escape even after few minutes of fighting.

For those that want to decrease the number of people logging off while in combat/interdicted I would suggest a different approach. Ask people nicely not to do it, don't throw a tantrum just because you can't play the game by the rules. If a CMDR that is actively trying to kill me asks me nicely not to log out or even high-wake I am much more likely to cooperate than a CMDR that is spewing hate towards me for playing the game within the rules given by FDEV.
Personally, I have absolutely nothing against ganking. In fact, I think it livens up the game. In fact, I even tried it for a few days and thankfully erasing notoriety was so easy I still do it nowadays. These days I don't limit myself to killing opposing CMDRs, I simply blow up everyone.

On average about 90% of the people I chase, simply log out to menu. Guess what. I am perfectly fine with that! They can't log off fast enough before my overcharged frags blow up their 3D shielded Asps, but that's ok.


Let nobody else tell you otherwise! Do I do it myself? If I meet obnoxious padblockers or explorers or people in CGs, yes... most definitely I will mess with them.. as I know it will trigger them even more by destroying their 3D shielded Asps. These days destroying their 3D shielded Asps is even easier with thermal conduit.

Now I do understand the other side of the story as well. PvE is pretty much hardly playable as it is even now even without logging out. With a G5 engineered FDL (which most PvPers fly) the only way to not blow them up before they log is to pretty much agree before hand.. otherwise it is impossible to escape even after few seconds of fighting.

Luckily open is by far the most played mode of all, and every day we get an influx of new players to blow up in their unengineered builds at Farseer base. I don't even ask their permission to blow them up, because "or even hunt other CMDRs" is in the game description.

:whistle:
 
lol, I don't have overcharged frags... Also if you start the exit to Menu process at the beginning of an interdiction, there is no way anyone can kill you quickly enough.
 
Personally, I have absolutely nothing against ganking. In fact, I think it livens up the game. In fact, I even tried it for a few days and thankfully erasing notoriety was so easy I still do it nowadays. These days I don't limit myself to killing opposing CMDRs, I simply blow up everyone.

On average about 90% of the people I chase, simply log out to menu. Guess what. I am perfectly fine with that! They can't log off fast enough before my overcharged frags blow up their 3D shielded Asps, but that's ok.


Let nobody else tell you otherwise! Do I do it myself? If I meet obnoxious padblockers or explorers or people in CGs, yes... most definitely I will mess with them.. as I know it will trigger them even more by destroying their 3D shielded Asps. These days destroying their 3D shielded Asps is even easier with thermal conduit.

Now I do understand the other side of the story as well. PvE is pretty much hardly playable as it is even now even without logging out. With a G5 engineered FDL (which most PvPers fly) the only way to not blow them up before they log is to pretty much agree before hand.. otherwise it is impossible to escape even after few seconds of fighting.

Luckily open is by far the most played mode of all, and every day we get an influx of new players to blow up in their unengineered builds at Farseer base. I don't even ask their permission to blow them up, because "or even hunt other CMDRs" is in the game description.

:whistle:
Are you OK?
 
lol, I don't have overcharged frags... Also if you start the exit to Menu process at the beginning of an interdiction, there is no way anyone can kill you quickly enough.
And you're propably totally fine with this, because you totally deserve a complete risk free gameplay and don't give any thoughts about what this did to piracy or legit PvP.

I know I know, it's your right to log. Just remember it's every gankers right to blow you and everyone up if they can get you :)

Are you OK?
Yep, just bored ;)
 
And you're propably totally fine with this, because you totally deserve a complete risk free gameplay and don't give any thoughts about what this did to piracy or legit PvP.

I know I know, it's your right to log. Just remember it's every gankers right to blow you and everyone up if they can get you :)

Yep, just bored ;)

Whether I am 'fine' or 'happy' with the current rules.. is pretty much irrelevant.

I am here only to encourage people to take full advantage of the current rules of the game with no regard to what somebody else says. If this rule (ability to log out within 15 seconds) is breaking game mechanics like piracy or 'legit PvP' then the community should raise it with FDEV and it should be fixed.

I was raised on old-school HC games like Ultima Online back in 2001 so my ideal ruleset would be in fact totally unacceptable by today's standards.

1) I would prolong the 15 seconds to 600 seconds (yup, 10 minutes.. though this is not possible because of the P2P model). For example in UO you could log-out anywhere but your char stayed there for 5 minutes even after you had closed the game.
2) Disband Solo/Private mode - Everybody in Open
3) Increase rebuy costs exponentially higher for fully engineered ships
 
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Robert Maynard

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Yes, now that the OP introduced "open only" to the thread. o_O
I did wonder where the thread was going.

It seems that there's some selective acceptance of the rules of Open in play - given that the ability to shoot at anything that one instances with sits alongside the block feature and menu exit on the list of permissible actions. This is then compounded by the assertion that players should be forced to play among those who wish to shoot at them, if they continue to play the game that is.
 
Who is the jerk by the way?

- the player playing a game by a ruleset which allows other players to get blown up?

- the player who calls a subset of the community jerks?
 
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