General / Off-Topic Imagine Star Wars with ED travel times LOL

[Northpin]

I placed my opinion

... on a discussion forum
And people replied with their own opinions or advices

staring at a screen for 10 minutes is a waste of time

So don't do it.
Some people hate combat - and they dont do combat in ED.
Some people hate the Empire - and they dont even unlock Empire affiliated engineers
Some people hate mining - and they avoided mining all together and did not unlock engineers that had mining requirements (no, i made that up - but i really used to hate mining with a passion like 2 years ago, boring crap to look at blinding purple laserzzzzzing me to sleep every single session)

 

[CMDR Itvara]

They are raging because I placed my opinion in a symbolic movie analogy and my opinion different from theirs. As if FD would listen to me...

But I though several of the comments were well thought out, except the ones that went personal, those deserve back banter...

You can't blame them. I mean this with as little offense as possible, but everyone pointed out how your post wasn't well thought out to begin with. If you genuinely don't like the travel times in ED, there are much better arguments to make than comparing it to other franchises where travel times are actually longer

 

[Gwyther]

All these people who keep complaining about bloody travel times.
Just be thankful that we even have FSD's. Before that, it was just generation ships, where you would plot your course then log out for a few hundred years whilst you very slowly traveled to your destination.
Then, one day in the future, your great grandson/daughter could log back in and continue playing where you left off.

 

[Kerrash]

VERY telling that Frontier Moderators nerfed the discussion, sore spot?

More like moot point.

 

[Joe Akeem]

Current forum trend. We had "FPS is being shoehorned into my game" last week.

Aah, ok, moving on then. Cheers!

 

[freemasons357]

You can't blame them. I mean this with as little offense as possible, but everyone pointed out how your post wasn't well thought out to begin with. If you genuinely don't like the travel times in ED, there are much better arguments to make than comparing it to other franchises where travel times are actually longer

I can blame who ever I want. It was well thought out. Sorry your don't agree. I'm not alone, just alone in voicing it here. No one likes the Apex flight times, not even Obsidian Ant the is the most kind in his reviews.

And if you read the title, "Imagine Star Wars with ED travel times LOL" it was posted to be funny, but all the hot heads voice their opinion as fact.
No biggie, I half expected it, its the internet!

 

[CMDR Itvara]

I can blame who ever I want. It was well thought out. Sorry your don't agree. I'm not alone, just alone in voicing it here. No one likes the Apex flight times, not even Obsidian Ant the is the most kind in his reviews.

And if you read the title, "Imagine Star Wars with ED travel times LOL" it was posted to be funny, but all the hot heads voice their opinion as fact.
No biggie, I half expected it, its the internet!

How can you claim your post was meant to be funny, but also claim it was a well thought out opinion? Look man, you were wrong about other sci-fi franchises and their travel times. it's all good though, no hard feelings.

Apex flight times are exaggerated in this stage of the alpha. Apex is mostly meant as an emergency service anyway, for when you don't have your ship available for some reason. Don't sweat it.

 

[freemasons357]

How can you claim your post was meant to be funny, but also claim it was a well thought out opinion? Look man, you were wrong about other sci-fi franchises and their travel times. it's all good though, no hard feelings.

Apex flight times are exaggerated in this stage of the alpha. Apex is mostly meant as an emergency service anyway, for when you don't have your ship available for some reason. Don't sweat it.

Show me the movie I described where we watch the ship travel for 10 minutes with no cut scene. I think that's funny. I can picture the guy saying "Red leader checking in", over and over.

All opinions are not wrong dude. You have your opinion, its not wrong, I just don't agree with it. And you say I'm wrong as if you have final say, how arrogant.

Keep it coming, this is far more interesting than the Apex flights

 

[freemasons357]

Moved this movie discussion to off topic.

Seriously, How is this off topic, it seems to be the main topic of Odyssey.

 

[CMDR Itvara]

Show me the movie I described where we watch the ship travel for 10 minutes with no cut scene. I think that's funny. I can picture the guy saying "Red leader checking in", over and over.

All opinions are not wrong dude. You have your opinion, its not wrong, I just don't agree with it. And you say I'm wrong as if you have final say, how arrogant.

Keep it coming, this is far more interesting than the Apex flights

Your desire for change isn't wrong, but you were wrong that other Sci-Fi genres use methods of travel faster than Elite Dangerous. You focused on their specific ability to drop out on specific celestial bodies within a system and assumed that it meant you'd be able to travel faster in those franchises than ED. Overall your opinion isn't wrong, but it is objectively not well thought out, since you didn't know how travel times were like in your comparison.

If you'd like to discuss a real argument for changes to supercruise, I'm all ears. Otherwise this will be my last reply to anything regarding travel time comparisons.

Here's your movie scene:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dZveoBfiww

 

[freemasons357]

Your desire for change isn't wrong, but you were wrong that other Sci-Fi genres use methods of travel faster than Elite Dangerous. You focused on their specific ability to drop out on specific celestial bodies within a system and assumed that it meant you'd be able to travel faster in those franchises than ED. Overall your opinion isn't wrong, but it is objectively not well thought out, since you didn't know how travel times were like in your comparison.

If you'd like to discuss a real argument for changes to supercruise, I'm all ears. Otherwise this will be my last reply to anything regarding travel time comparisons.

Here's your movie scene:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dZveoBfiww

Good one! But none of this is real, not even hyper space.

The single reason I don't play Star Citizen is that they force your to eat and drink. Really? It's a game. If they wanted realism, why didn't they force defacation as well.

I have seen many good suggestions on this site, seems like all of them are being ignored by FDEV with the support of some fans from the "Well I didn't have that when I started" I remember all the, "We are considering those suggestions" on fleet carriers, virtually none implemented.

 

[Para Handy]

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Edit: Even in Star Wars travel takes time - they just don't show it all the time. .......

An early example being Luke's initial training during the first hyperspace trip in the Falcon.

OP needs to get out more (sorry, stupid suggestion) needs to explore SciFi more.

 

[freemasons357]

An early example being Luke's initial training during the first hyperspace trip in the Falcon.

OP needs to get out more (sorry, stupid suggestion) needs to explore SciFi more.

Good point that the travel time was edited out, it would't make for a good movie experience. But that's my point entirely...

 

[CMDR Itvara]

Good one! But none of this is real, not even hyper space.

The single reason I don't play Star Citizen is that they force your to eat and drink. Really? It's a game. If they wanted realism, why didn't they force defacation as well.

I have seen many good suggestions on this site, seems like all of them are being ignored by FDEV with the support of some fans from the "Well I didn't have that when I started" I remember all the, "We are considering those suggestions" on fleet carriers, virtually none implemented.

The technology doesn't exist in reality yet, but but theory in physics that it's based on does:

Alcubierre drive - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's not all set in stone for sure, but arguments like "just make is faster" don't work for supercruise.

I'm actually not totally against micro-jumps from within a star systems though, but again, because it's based on a theory of using gravity wells to stop, you have to come up with a way to make micro jumps believable with that existing basis, and also balanced with existing gameplay (doable, but not simple) Allowing micro jumps would probably have to come with a plan on how to rework scanner ranges in systems so aspects of piracy and war can't be exploited. The whole background simulation would need to be changed based on new shipping lanes. The list goes on. With enough time, you can come up with a good plan to make those changes, but the work to do that usually ends up being too much for such a small change in comparison. On top of the fact that there's no guarantee that those changes would be for the better of the company. If the changes don't appeal to as many players as they hope, they're stuck having to remake a lot of their future development plans from scratch, which could ultimately lead to the end for the game. It's very risky to make fundamental changes like that.

 

[freemasons357]

There have been many good suggestions that will be ignored. The physical mechanics don't have to change either. For example. Get a mission at a base station on a planet, perform that mission at another base station on the SAME planet. Many planets already have multiple stations. Lower travel times could have lower payouts, so mission on the same planet are say 20,000, that's fair to the long haulers paying over 100k. I'm already an in-game billionaire so I would not mind taking less in payouts to have more mission time instead of travel time.

Maybe same-planet mission are a good reason to buy an SRV to drive to the mission location instead of Apex.

 

[Manticore]

Seriously....no.

 

[Sublime]

Seriously, play SW games. Plenty of them out there.
Or watch a movie.

ED does not seem to be your type of game and there is nothing wrong with this

(yea, big fan of SW games here, especially the really old ones - XWing, Tie Fighter, XW vs Tie, XWing Alliance, SW Kotor 1 and 2, etc)

Ever since I played games like x-wing and tie fighter in the 90s, I wished I could do the things in them that we currently can do in ED. Now in ED I wish I could also do the things I did back in those games, like bombing runs on capital ships, convoy raids, etc. ED is too limited in that regards.

Convoy raids for example are no different than any other nav beacon or extraction zone fight, and don’t get me started on the cap ship fights, they are just sad..

 

[freemasons357]

I think he just wants a baby yoda bobblehead

Edit: Even in Star Wars travel takes time - they just don't show it all the time. The Mandalorian has episodes where they chat away during the trip. Luke learns everything about 'using the force' on one trip!

This is the correct thread dude...

 

[Ian Phillips]

Seriously, can you imagine watching Star Wars when the battle fleet comes out of Hyper Space and then watching the ships travel for 10 minutes before the battle begins? Then the fans say, "well space is really big".

In all the Sci-Fi movies I have watched, ships come out of Hyper-Space at the planet not the sun. I can only imagine coming out at the sun position in uncharted systems. Just waiting for the geeks to list the movies where this isn't so...

Seriously, How is this off topic, it seems to be the main topic of Odyssey.

I can see no reference to anything apart from movies in your opening post.

FD are not mind readers - if you have a point to make, don't be so obscure that the point vanishes.

 

[freemasons357]

I can see no reference to anything apart from movies in your opening post.

FD are not mind readers - if you have a point to make, don't be so obscure that the point vanishes.

Not everyone agreed, but everyone got the point without mind reading, the Apex travel times are THE MOST talked about subject in Odyssey across the net.

If I changed the title to "Imagine Star Wars with Odyssey's Apex travel times LOL" would you leave it there?