In a month or two they may get added to tech brokers anyway.Wow, that is one precedence I hoped they wouldn't set.
I am grateful if I have received the item, but now wonder if they can ever run a CG with a chance of failing? One side lost and did not achieve the minimum requirement in the time set - yet we have apparently been gifted with the item.
What about those over 75% - given another week as some were asking for - they could have possibly made it to the 75%, so if we are completely dropping the rules to gift to those that did not actually achieve the objective.....
shouldn't everyone be gifted with the missile rack? (If we have just dropped the need to achieve the CG)
I do not mean this post as a troll, but I feel if the CG was NOT achieved - yet put aside - why is there now a limit to how much the lack of achievement can be put aside?
COMPLETED CG Fight for the Neo-Marlinist Order of Mudhrid against the Empire (Combat)
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I do hope this tech gets widely profileratted throughout the galaxy. The possible long term lore implications, have been entertaining me a lot lately.
That is great to hear. BTW, a big thank you to FDev for letting the top 10% get the double engineered missile rack!This launcher is awesome! I am forever biased now and will say whatever needs saying to keep it
I've not checked yet (I was well within the 10%).Well, I'm pi**ed off as hell.
As there was no way the CG was gonna reach Tier 1 (and it didn't), I stopped trying to stay at the top 10%.
I'm at work so can't check right now if I got it or not. Has anyone in the top 75% got it?
However, I think everyone should get it as a requirement of the CG was not met (reaching Tier 1). If the requirements are no longer required to achieve the reward - why should 10%/25%/50%/75%/100% matter anymore?
You can't say 'You never achieved the CG, but can have the reward, because you never achieved the CG to a lesser extent to someone else who never achieved it!'
Well I guess you can - because they have!
Right. Like the double-engineered DSS?
I very much hope so.
Not taking away the efforts of anyone - we did not achieve the CG; therefore we deserve the item no more than anyone else who didn't achieve the CG.
I hope it comes soon for others to benefit too. <O
I think for at least top 75% is a good value, not everyone has the leisure to commit a lot of time on CG, if it's set to 100% for everyone, then it becomes a free rider thing and contribution becomes less meaningful, though another way of view it, it's a good thing because community goal is mostly about doing it for the community, not personal gains.
Really want this available again since I'm a big time explorer
Same hereWell, I'm pi**ed off as hell.
As there was no way the CG was gonna reach Tier 1 (and it didn't), I stopped trying to stay at the top 10%.
I'm at work so can't check right now if I got it or not. Has anyone in the top 75% got it?
I dropped into the top 25% and stopped near the end due it being very obvious tier 1 wouldn't be hit.
I've just logged in and I have the double engineered railgun from fighting for the winning side, but no enzyme missile launcher. So it looks like Top 10% are the only ones to get it.
That's gonna cheese off a good few cmdrs I bet
It's the "Award for Showing Up" mentality. Hey, it doesn't matter if you didn't achieve the goal. Here's a trophy for participation so you can feel "included" and build up that sense of entitlement of yours, hmm? Yeah, good kid. pat, pat
You can't say 'You never achieved the CG, but can have the reward, because you never achieved the CG to a lesser extent to someone else who never achieved it!'
I absolutely agree with you here and your previous post. I too hope this is not a precedent for standard practice in future CGs.
But haven't we just been gifted it as 'a free rider thing' - if we never succeeded in achieving the CG?
Anyway, I don't wish to be negative - I feel what the FDevs have done is extremely generous. I also do not wish to take away from the many people that made the effort and have been rewarded even though we did not accomplish the CG.
So congrats to all who received the item and even more so: Thank you FDev. <O
I wouldn't say it's a free rider for the top 10%, as it was actually quite tough for some players to even stay within the top 10%, we do see people drop down to 25%.
It is unfair that with the rules explained, but the result came different, exactly what we were discussing a few pages ago, is it normal and fair?
I myself consider getting the gift a happy result, however unfair due to that we did not complete tier 1, though setting tier 1 at 20% of max contribution is also another abnormal act.
So if FDev's could come out and explain that if tier bars/thresholds are no longer related to rewards but only level of CR bonus, things would be more clarified.
We're simply being played by the out-dated mission briefings.
Extremely generous would have been to give it to the top 75%
The correct thing to do would have been not to give it to anyone. They could easily have offered the same module as a reward for another CG.
Reminds me of the double engineered FSD, where only the top 25% of people were supposed to get it then last minute they gave it to the top 75%, which annoyed a lot of people who stopped because they knew they couldn't make the top 25% but who fell outside of the top 75%
Again, I don't want to be a downer to the fact that we did not achieve the CG but got the reward anyway. However getting a reward when you never achieved the objective seems to be the definition of a freebie.
Giving the person who came 4th in the Olympics a medal because - 'Hey he didn't achieve 1st, 2nd or 3rd, but he tried and did better than others who didn't win either' seems to be splitting hairs.
As for the Tier 1, 20% threshold - it could have been achieved with the numbers who took part in both the CGs - both CGs could have achieved Tier 1, but instead, one achieved Tier 2 and one lost (but just didn't want to accept that loss).
Totally agree that it would help if the FDevs explained how they binned the requirements of the CG and awarded the items through another thought process.
But having been convinced to change their mind about one set of rules to something as simple as a weekly CG, what is to say they won't change it again if enough people complain enough?
Again congrats to all - I am happy that some got the award and I hope it will soon be open to all the community. <O
If you read my posts I also do not think it should have been awarded either.
That is why I feel the awarding of the item at all is extremely generous. <O
And now we should be grateful? Because they (FDev) didn't respect their own rules? They never come out with an explanation?
they don't respect us, players?
I received both modules - but I don't feel grateful. I would rather have clear and fixed rules. Not this arrogant behaviour where they
simply act as Gods who can decide anything, to break any rules and to give some presents to poor mortals! Irritating!
they don't respect us, players?
I received both modules - but I don't feel grateful. I would rather have clear and fixed rules. Not this arrogant behaviour where they
simply act as Gods who can decide anything, to break any rules and to give some presents to poor mortals! Irritating!
Well I'm grateful, yes.And now we should be grateful? Because they (FDev) didn't respect their own rules? They never come out with an explanation?
they don't respect us, players?
I received both modules - but I don't feel grateful. I would rather have clear and fixed rules. Not this arrogant behaviour where they
simply act as Gods who can decide anything, to break any rules and to give some presents to poor mortals! Irritating!
There were fixed rules which were set in the first post. It was the whole reason I waited a day to see who was behind and then started playing for that CG - in order that I could get to the top 10% in what would be the losing side, and then switch to get in the top 75% on the winning side (getting me both modules).
It was explained in post 1: If Tier 1 is reached, the top 10% of participants will receive a uniquely augmented class 2 rating B increased caustic damage and capacity enzyme missile rack......It was not, so we should not.
So yes, I am certainly grateful, someone (FDevs) gave me what accounts as a gift (as I did not earn it); why wouldn't I be grateful?
Now I would love to know their reasoning behind the change - that to me is another mystery, but that does not stop me being grateful. <O
........just in case: We are all grateful to you @Machnette <O
Giving the reward to the top 10% when the condition is not met is not a nice move, pretty far from it
Cause some players have left the CG before when seeing the tier 1 would not be reached and they felt into top 25%
If you want to be fair, you give it to every participant of the CG or at least to the top 25 or 50%
Cause some players have left the CG before when seeing the tier 1 would not be reached and they felt into top 25%
If you want to be fair, you give it to every participant of the CG or at least to the top 25 or 50%
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