Long Way Home, what to pack?

[SPACEMEDA]

Wait, the hauler is cheaper to transfer than a 3A collector limpet controller?

it was 3A refinery, 6million, posted a picture but universe decided not to upload mi picture so i edited in this message

You should assume that carriers won't be selling modules or ships. Occasionally a carrier might have those things. But what the map information is mentioning is the availability of the shipyard or outfitting service, not any particular items for sale. The service is usually offered on carriers for you to transfer your own ships or modules, not to buy them.

- yes, i did not think that way, while im relatively new to the galaxy, atleast i saved myself from remote engineering anaconda and cursing the fact i can't do experiments modules

I looked into this for totally different reasons before buying my own carrier, ended up not fitting Shipyard or Outfitting because of the amount of space (cargo) that they require not only for the actual service they provide but the additional space for ships and equipment that you have for sale.

As far as I can tell you could also only replenish any equipment or ships that you sell by returning the carrier to somewhere with carrier administration services, also Outfitting modules have to be brought in packs, not as individual items which could also cause problems. Probably the reason that carrier has no cargo racks - they sold them all and cannot re-supply them.

In the end I decided that I had no real use for either, and also did not bother with the Secure Warehouse for similar reasons.

I spend most of my time out in the black mining and exploring, I leave all of my services available for any passing explorer.

• you were right, i returned to fc, and they have now cargo racks avail, like they have all mining equipment avail. i think its in one pack
• maybe some time i will visit your fc, if you are not too far away from The Conduit, im down to 80kly round trip

Well, i need to know few things, if u dont mind my noob questions..

1., how come that when i approach carrier from opposite side, they give warning of loitering? i did not smash into them, speed is slow, it should be.. cause im clunky landing without computer
2., I came here research dead and cold stars, but here (in The Conduit) everything is different from bubble. There were alot of Y,L,T stars, here are alot of white dwarf, neutron, A, B stars. If i got destroyed by white dwarf, where i will be respawned? in a carrier or.. nearest station?
3., what happens when i accidentaly shoot into carrier, or smash into them.. i mean, is there a way how to pay fine when there's no contacts page (there is, but says suspended)?
4., if i loose rover, can i repair it on a carrier without outfitting option (they dont sell rover bay)? Like im not racing them or drive crazy like most people.. but accidents happen. (i already have send one bay, one is in my ship, and third is comming with second ship).

 

[K Olley]

If a carrier has got armoury installed and active then SRV are available there, Armoury supplies not only ammo but limpets, fighters and SRV's.

Respawn should be at the last station or carrier visited, carriers count as stations in these circumstances.

Same rules apply when docking to either station or carrier, so I would advise approaching carrier via docking pads side same as small station.

Got no idea what happens if you accidently give carrier grief, but remember they are indestructible, your ship is not

 

[CMDR SleepyDelegate]

4., if i loose rover, can i repair it on a carrier without outfitting option (they dont sell rover bay)? Like im not racing them or drive crazy like most people.. but accidents happen. (i already have send one bay, one is in my ship, and third is comming with second ship).

I do not have an answer to your question, but I have a tip for you:

One way to prevent damage to the rover is to repair its hull with Premium materials... This increases the resistance of the SRV hull by 100% if I remember correctly... If you do that, there is very little chance you could destroy it by just casually driving around... Unless you use a water geyser to shoot you in high altitude and then recklessly land on the canopy without maneuvering using thrusters, you should be ok... Of course pips to shields...

 

[SPACEMEDA]

Unless you use a water geyser to shoot you in high altitude and then recklessly land on the canopy without maneuvering using thrusters, you should be ok... Of course pips to shields...

i did this exactly, some time ago, to see if its only animation or if it really blows me up into the sky
good to know than, i better do not mess with geysires
i found out aswell, that something is repairing my rover, i do not use synthesize yet (have materials gathered and prepared ofcourse), i did not have less than 96% of that bar under the shields

 

[Rudi Raumkraut]

i found out aswell, that something is repairing my rover

your ship is repairing your damaged rover after docking...
it just not refuels it

 

[SPACEMEDA]

Well, im still waiting for my ships to arrive. Im not dead, thanks to shield and shield booster.
Here's what happened.

I read somewhere that going as low/high as possible is cool. But here.. ? Im not sure.. but i gave it a shot.
Opened galaxy map, and plot route.. to three white dwarfs. I found nothing interesting.
I keep going down, but turned off jet cone boost to not to run into issues, what if i jump out of 144ly range? It's my max range with synthesis, and neutron stars boost ~ 288ly.

As i ve been slowly jumping towards bottom, as far as i can i found a signal. Biological signal! Checked it out, what not.. exactly what im looking for.. crystalline shards! Three in one system, next jump, next signal, next - next signal! At last system i have smashed ship right into the ground of 8km deep canyon.. shields save me, i break them, but no damage to ship. I have found what i came for. Only ~ 500ly from carrier.

FLYAI PRUA EC-C D1 - B1B - Antimony
FLYAI PRUA EC-C D1 - B2B - Ruthenium
FLYAI PRUA EC-C D1 - B4B - Tellurium

FLYAI PRUA JI-A D1-O - B4F - Antimony (very deep canyons)

FLYAI PRUA UK-W D2-O - C4B - Yttrium (45ly range required)

Even shards here look very different from what im used to, no i did not make a mistake, picture is in right direction, and they are always widely spread.

Day after this i tought it will be supercool if i find last two missing materials.. i headed back but found nothing. I tought, that's it, in Conduit we have only this four and nothing more. Cause few posts above, we have all of this further away.
I made a new plan, we don't have any nebulae, but we have dark clouds. I have no idea what is it and what's in it.

In these dark clouds i found wolf rayet stars, earthlings speaks that they are super cool and super rare, if you are not in galactic core. I headed there then! Why not.
I never come to that place.. you guessed it, i found another signal. Guess what. Crystal shards, missing one.

FLYAI PRE RR-U C19-15 - BCD 6B - Technetium
FLYAI PRE RR-U C19-15 - BCD 7B - Yttrium

Here are aswell water worlds, i did not map them, so you can, i do not map any of them and found like 20 or more. If you see my name on the system and there is water world - its waiting for you. I am doing earthlike worlds aswell, but i wrote down these when i found 10 atleast for you to map. We got an agreement right?

This shards are relatively close to the carrier. 1300 ly.

If you are in this corner of galaxy, no need to go to bubble, we have everything in stock. I think im going back to tag system, then back here to find last one which is polonium.
Screw rayet stars, i have nothing from them, no idea if those shards are rare, but from the bubble point of view they are.

I did not even start researching cold stars, or did not find my home system.. who knows what's there. I don't even think going back to colonia or bubble - i don't have a time for that. But i wonder how do i refill heatsinks here. Any ideas?

Dont tell anyone, but i've been chasing non existing nebulae, until i found out that it's galaxy. But the stories about blue haze in this region are true. Everything has blue tint, even distant galaxies.

I started using observatory program, its way less complicated than EDDiscovery.

• i kinda dont get it what is "nested moon" - does that mean moon is in rings of a gas giant?
• what is sheparded moon?

thankyou

 

[BaldEagle]

Well, im still waiting for my ships to arrive. Im not dead, thanks to shield and shield booster.
Here's what happened.

Love reading your accounts To replenish heatsinks you need materials only available in the Bubble:

Lots of complaints about this from explorers but we are stuck with it. Needs some forward planning ...

Shepherd moon: moon in a ring:

Shepherd moon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nested moon - a moon of a moon

 

[Mrat13]

Love reading your accounts To replenish heatsinks you need materials only available in the Bubble:

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Lots of complaints about this from explorers but we are stuck with it. Needs some forward planning ...

Shepherd moon: moon in a ring:

Shepherd moon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nested moon - a moon of a moon

Yet another reason we need an exploration carrier....

 

[SPACEMEDA]

Yet another reason we need an exploration carrier....

or they maybe can use material in game for synthesize heatsinks, i did not see any or little use for ; boron, lead, rhenium, antimony
i even did not see 3 of these in planets surfaces, im not sure

 

[K Olley]

or they maybe can use material in game for synthesize heatsinks, i did not see any or little use for ; boron, lead, rhenium, antimony
i even did not see 3 of these in planets surfaces, im not sure

Antimony is surface only, the rest are Ring only, for reference metals and minerals Tab on bottom of page will take you to engineering materials.

 

[SPACEMEDA]

My ships arrived. Finnaly. I have finished engineering on them.
What i do, with new ship is usual stuff, like before - like i did in a bubble with Krait and dbx. So i decided to do a trip with Hauler. I went to our "nebulae". It's gigantic, i can't explore it all. Some ~ 1200ly from a carrier tiny Hauler found this.

Those two are not the same system, i don't remember. But i do remember they were above 2G and once again i smashed this new ship into the ground, shields take it all. I have no idea what are those pumpkins, or who put them there. They hide some materials. Atleast i have a ship with better thrust to weight ratio of all of 3 ships if some high g planet appears. It does not look it will, so far.

I headed back to carrier after this test run, reequip Krait and headed back to crystalline shards i found first time. To see if i can find an/other ones. No luck, i've jumped in every system in like 300 ly radius, and i even don't - because here i can't even plot a route without neutron boost, that far is next star, and if it is not neutron, i can't return. I don't think its worth. But here is the most bottom system i've reached so far.

All of these dots are stars in the system, - 2000ly. Still no shards. Im heading back, this signal from this shards is fully discovered, i think.

Here we go, this is the one of space's dirty tricks plays on me, when i "found nothing" on my way back.

a giant star, here im collecting materials right now, i used some for synthesis fsd jump.. and burned one on combined fsd with neutron boost - did not figured out how to use them at once for one giant jump, yet.

When i refill materials, i will head back to carrier, swap ship for DBX and head to second crystalline signal, to see if i can find another ones.
Im thinking of removing guardian booster and equip repair kit (limpet controller and cargo rack). I will be jumping from system to system, star density there is way bigger, i don't need that massive range.
I can finnaly go for what i come, those cold stars.. They even should do them landable, surface temperature of them is way less than some high metal planets close to big stars.

This is really funny, im still in that heat map hole near the carrier.. so let's go towards new discoveries, im doing only baby steps in the Conduit.

 

[SPACEMEDA]

How long no see me? Oh, an earthling month.. is it long or not? In The Conduit it does not matter.

Especially in our nebulae, something strange is happening. I have been here before i jumped there. How is it possible?! Not once, not twice, it's on the regular base. Route plotter is directed not to jump to same systems.

I think, something is chasing me. Let's see the options;

a./ it is our nebulae playing tricks on me down there, where starfield density is low

b./ it is someone else, look at this!

someone did not make it into surface of this planet in one piece, system is here

Strange, looks like they were in dire need of polonium. Told you before, we don't have alot of it here.

c./It is you, an earthling, i told you if you need something over here you need to contact me.

You know what, i will tell you where polonium is, i found it. You can come, you can take, but don't destroy.
It's TRIGNOOE FJ-F C12-1, second sun, gas giants first moon.

Don't even tell me it's too far from a carrier, because it's only 1300ly. Still, look what's else, besides interesting stuff atleast for me, in that system;

.. ofcourse waiting for you to scan, im out there for other reasons.. not elw's. So you can rest and relax there, while refilling polonium.
I flyby that planet, there is noone, no lights yet, you will be safe, if some of you do not screw up..

But now for me question is.. what should i do next.

• continue to my home (to the place between 3 carriers)
• go back to your space, because of odyssey

I heard i can't do any upgrade on a fleet carriers is that true?
I heard i will loose all my shards, cause they change planets.. is it true? Can i find new ones or they will be deleted for good? Or do i need other hand held equipment to find something? What a mess..

 

[BaldEagle]

It's all very confusing (understatement??)
What seems clear is that the 'Horizons' features will remain for a while for those who only run that version, but with EDO you will get the new planetary tech and what that will mean for your shards is anyone's guess

 

[SPACEMEDA]

Hello again. There's something like i don't get abit. It's destroying my ship slowly.

I, while trying to find my home, tryed several times to land on methane stars. They say its temperature is only ~ 600k. But it always kicks me out of supercruise and tells me ship is overheating. So i find the hottest planet i can and try to land there, its 1357k, nothing happened - i can land there, screw arround in srv etc. This does not make a sense, or does it?

I have repaired the ship with amfu and those repair limpets. The question is, how can i repair powerplant - it wont let me shut it down and/or afmu. Can reset help? What % is it safe to have damaged stuff, but still flying arround, or what happens if i let powerplant drop too low?

Im 5000ly from a nearest carrier, and won't return yet, what are my options?

Still on Horizons, thinking of buying Odyssey - i heared they force it into game anyway (planetary tech), so i better start finding interesting systems in it, or? I know i ll loose all my farming spots (crystal shards), did they change anything else - resource wise.

 

[iain666]

I, while trying to find my home, tryed several times to land on methane stars. They say its temperature is only ~ 600k. But it always kicks me out of supercruise and tells me ship is overheating. So i find the hottest planet i can and try to land there, its 1357k, nothing happened - i can land there, screw arround in srv etc. This does not make a sense, or does it?

I have repaired the ship with amfu and those repair limpets. The question is, how can i repair powerplant - it wont let me shut it down and/or afmu. Can reset help? What % is it safe to have damaged stuff, but still flying arround, or what happens if i let powerplant drop too low?

No stars are landable bodies, the brown dwarves might be colder than some landable bodies but you can't land on them so you'll just get roughly dumped out of supercruise if you go too close, which will cause damage if you're going at any kind of speed. If you don't quickly and carefully get out of there then a star will make you overheat and cause extra damage, heatsinks can help but if your ship's not running very hot naturally just pointing tangentially away, setting throttle to maximum and jumping when you can should be OK most of the time, if you have a heatsink launcher you can always fire one off to help.

You can only repair your powerplant in a station or carrier, if it gets below 50% (I think) you'll start getting occasional malfunctions but nothing fatal until you hit 0% at which point the ship blows up.

Just stop trying to land on non-landable bodies and you'll be fine.

 

[Greasetrap42]

But now for me question is.. what should i do next.

• continue to my home (to the place between 3 carriers)
• go back to your space, because of odyssey

I traveled from the farthest edges of Mare Somnia back to the space port Explorers Anchorge at the galactic center. Stuemeae FG-Y d7561

At this location I visited the space port, walked around and purchased some level 1 suits and weapons. I couldn't upgrade anything without special new materials. Some "Data Recovery" missions were offered to me, maybe I get basic stuff to trade for upgrades from doing them. Strange, I'm so far away from civilization really close to several of the most amazing features of the galaxy in a fully equipped exploration vessel.... and I'm being given data recovery missions? Nobody in the year 3307 is interested in sending me on exploration missions? Weird.

I might try some of the missions, but whenever I turn on my spaceship's Odyssey mode reality around me slows down my vision gets all choppy and weird. Sometimes I can even see through the walls of the space station! Flipping back to Horizons mode and things go back to normal. Explorers might want to wait on upgrading to Odyssey until its bad side effects sorted out. It appears the added new Odyssey rewards for blowing things up, stealing, and killing are much greater than exploration and discoveries.

I have waited here for many weeks. I think I'm just going to turn around and head back out.