Animals in few or no zoos

Spiderhawk

Spiderhawk
Hey y’all today I wanted to talk about animals in game or not that are rarely found in zoos or not found at all due to their high maintenance.
I read on a post that the proboscis monkeys do live at Singapore zoo successfully but other zoos struggle due to their dietary needs.
I believe I have heard that a zoo in Australia has leopard seals.
Are there any other very difficult animals that we have in game that zoos struggle to care for in real life?
Are there any in particular you hope will join the game?
Obviously the extinct in the wild animals are few in numbers so we can’t all get to see them across the world.
Also please don’t talk about whales or anything that obviously cannot be cared for in captivity
 

arafan

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The zoo that kept the leopard seal was Taronga zoo, in Sydney, which received a animal that lost itself in the ocean and landed in Australia (the same actually also happened at least in Argentina and Brazil), it wasn't released because there were concerns about carrying pathogens that could infect other individuals. The animal died a few years ago (2014) at a relatively young age, but I wouldn't say you can't keep them.
I think an other animal that would be in this category are the Pangolins, breeding success is still very rare, but there's definitely an improvement their husbandry. Some years ago zoos were unable to keep these animals for long times, because they had no clue what to feed them (anteaters and aardvarks had similar issues).
I honestly hope that Frontier won't include any animals that can't be found in captivity, proboscis monkey and the Chinese pangolin are my personal limit.
 

Spiderhawk

Spiderhawk
Ah good to know
I’d also imagine getting a leopard seal either by science related capture or by chance would be slim to none.
I remember hearing that on an episode of secrets of the zoo when they confirmed a pregnancy of a pangolin that there had been troubles in the past.
 

Monkey lover 1997

Banned
Monkey lover 1997
Pangolins are in one zoo in Europe - Leipzig zoo
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jcp011c

jcp011c
Fossa said:
The only animal that doesn't make sense in a zoo but which I still crave for is my favorite sea-mammal the Leopard Seal, they are too awesome to miss out.
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Agree, I know they're a extreme rarity in zoos but I'd really like to see them in the game for some reason. They're apex seals and are fascinating to me.
 

Spiderhawk

Spiderhawk
They are super cool, I’ve seen a video of a diver with one. I’d like them
Mountain gorillas have had no success in captivity.
I recently sow a lemur called an Indri, they look different and they don’t breed off of Madagascar and they longest ones captivity survival was 1 year. They are critically endangered so conservation efforts to help them are limited.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
My top pick is the Sumatran rhinoceros. Such a unique species, IIRC more closely related to the extinct woolly rhinoceros than any other modern rhino. Cincinnati Zoo had them for years and had some success with breeding but recently stopped the programme and sent their remaining rhinoceros back to Sumatra, but I would be so happy to be able to produce a successful (though obviously fake) breeding programme in the game.

Too bad the SEA Pack is already out. Unless they fill a "Critically Endangered Pack" slot with this animal or something, I don't think we'll ever see it.
 

Artisticbinturong

Artisticbinturong
Mediterranean monk seal are not currently held anywhere in captivity. And they have never been known to breed successfully in captivity. It's a species that would benefit from a breeding program since there are only 350-450 mature individuals remaining in the world.
 

12344321

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I'd be really interested in having the Saola antelope, nicknamed the "Vietnamese Unicorn" since it's extremely rare, first photographs of the saola were taken in 1999. Only a few have been sighted, however out of those few individuals at least one has been held in captivity.
 

SanRazo618

SanRazo618
I want animals regardless of how successful they are in captivity. I love the role play aspect of being the facility that learns to do it the right way or something. I also much more prefer promoting biodiversity than absolute pure realism because more people can be exposed too and learn about some of the rarer or less talk about species on the planet.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
12344321 said:
I'd be really interested in having the Saola antelope, nicknamed the "Vietnamese Unicorn" since it's extremely rare, first photographs of the saola were taken in 1999. Only a few have been sighted, however out of those few individuals at least one has been held in captivity.
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I've thought about this before, but I think the biggest hurdle to overcome would be the lack of tangible data on the animal. Not only its physical data (how it behaves, its overall range and population numbers, etc.) but even something like its sounds, which play a huge role in animal creation for the game. Without comprehensive sound files to apply to the animal, it's difficult to make it good or at the very least difficult to make it complete.
 

solacefruit

solacefruit
I'm conflicted over leopard seals, because I do love them and think they're very beautiful and interesting, but the means by which they end up in zoos makes their inclusion in Planet Zoo a little squiffy for me as an idea. I wouldn't be mad about it or anything--if anything, I'd probably be delighted!--but it's one of those species where I'm always a bit hmm about it, you know?
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
solacefruit said:
I'm conflicted over leopard seals, because I do love them and think they're very beautiful and interesting, but the means by which they end up in zoos makes their inclusion in Planet Zoo a little squiffy for me as an idea. I wouldn't be mad about it or anything--if anything, I'd probably be delighted!--but it's one of those species where I'm always a bit hmm about it, you know?
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The only one I know of was a leopard seal that wound up in Australia entirely by accident and then couldn't be released to the wild after rehabilitation.

That said, the zoo in question (Taronga, IIRC) also keeps a flock of Fiordland crested penguins from New Zealand which wound up there by accident as well, and these penguins aren't even kept in captivity in New Zealand. So I don't know how they get away with it.

I think including leopard seals would be okay, much for the same reasons I think it's fine to include the proboscis monkey despite their rarity in captivity. However, it's one of those animals that if it came in at the expense of something more widespread, such as a sea lion, I might be a bit miffed.
 

Spiderhawk

Spiderhawk
Thought I’d make this post more interesting. While looking up rare animals found in zoos, I see that PZ has a pretty good amount of them.
what about animals NOT found in zoos?
would you like to bend the rules a bit and take some in?
perfer to leave certain species wild?
examples of no zoo animals include
Mountain Gorilla
Indri
Bonus for aquariums, no great white sharks and no giant squid.
Oh and I read something about platypus, they are not found in non Australian zoos.
 

SanRazo618

SanRazo618
Spiderhawk said:
Thought I’d make this post more interesting. While looking up rare animals found in zoos, I see that PZ has a pretty good amount of them.
what about animals NOT found in zoos?
would you like to bend the rules a bit and take some in?
perfer to leave certain species wild?
examples of no zoo animals include
Mountain Gorilla
Indri
Bonus for aquariums, no great white sharks and no giant squid.
Oh and I read something about platypus, they are not found in non Australian zoos.
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Platypuses are in San Diego Zoo
 

Ounze

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Tuatara. An endangered reptile that looks a lot like a lizard. These are not found in many zoos because there are so few of them, and reproduction in captivity has been difficult. Plus, they live to at least sixty, with many living up to 100 years, and some experts who work with them believe that they could live to be over 200 years old.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
Ounze said:
Tuatara. An endangered reptile that looks a lot like a lizard. These are not found in many zoos because there are so few of them, and reproduction in captivity has been difficult. Plus, they live to at least sixty, with many living up to 100 years, and some experts who work with them believe that they could live to be over 200 years old.
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Every zoo in New Zealand has tuatara. I've worked with them personally and their breeding has been pretty successful.
 
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