I'm not sure how I feel about this, in reality bounties are very small and trivial to circumvent these days.
I just hope this isn't a hammer we are willing to swing often :/
I just hope this isn't a hammer we are willing to swing often :/
THIS is a VERY good question, which is sadly unanswered in the original post...
I also have another question, where you've said "When playing Horizons after having played Odyssey, Commanders will receive a default avatar and flight suit." does this mean you're going to reset my Horizons CMDR HoloMe to default? Or does this only apply to say a new player, who started off in Odyssey and then played Horizons because they joined a squadron or whatever?
2 questions how big is the download going to be and what kind of specs will be required
Hi Bruce, just wondering if you can clarify on this?
So, when players return back to Odyssey - will they still have a default Avatar?
i.e.
1) Log into Horzons and avatar goes default
2) Default Avatar gets default flight suit
3) Log into Odyssey and default avatar gets odyssey suit.
So, when players return back to Odyssey - will they still have a default Avatar?
i.e.
1) Log into Horzons and avatar goes default
2) Default Avatar gets default flight suit
3) Log into Odyssey and default avatar gets odyssey suit.
If I may offer a suggestion for the "TBC" on Horizons/Odyssey instancing on non-atmospheric planets after console launch:
A good solution would be an "opt-in" in my opinion, where Horizons players have to confirm their age and are allowed to opt into Odyssey instancing after that. This should circumvent the age rating issue.
Well, I'm sure you're looking into all kinds of options, but I thought I should share my thoughts, just in case
A good solution would be an "opt-in" in my opinion, where Horizons players have to confirm their age and are allowed to opt into Odyssey instancing after that. This should circumvent the age rating issue.
Well, I'm sure you're looking into all kinds of options, but I thought I should share my thoughts, just in case
thanks for the clarification.
Nothing will change in Horizons until the console launch. Then everyone will get the unified client with the new UI.Thank you for the clarifacation the information and transparency means a lot ; D
A picture tells a thousand words and being thorough covers nearly all bases.
The only question that reminds is does Horizons get new UI improvements.
Not that it matters to me I'll be playing Odyssey 99% of the time
Thanks for the clarification! However one point of confusion persists:
So what happens if squad members are friends?
So what happens if squad members are friends?
Thanks Bruce and the Team!
Most appreciated.
Although you guys should not really expect that we get this one to 100 pages too before launch
It's a bit unclear how Crimes works in Odyssey and what opportunities will arise from constant switching between Horizons and Odyssey, but guess we will find out soon enough.
Most appreciated.
Although you guys should not really expect that we get this one to 100 pages too before launch
It's a bit unclear how Crimes works in Odyssey and what opportunities will arise from constant switching between Horizons and Odyssey, but guess we will find out soon enough.
rootsrat
Volunteer Moderator
Greetings Commanders,
Thank you all for your comments and feedback on the recent announcement regarding Odyssey and Horizons compatibility. We understand that the post left some aspects unclear which we'd like to address below. We've also included some additional details.
Instancing and Graphical Improvements
To clarify the circumstances under which instances may be shared across versions of the game, and when visual changes will be seen, we've made the following tables. The first applies to the time between PC and console launch, and the other to the time following console launch:
From PC Launch to Console Launch
After Console Launch
Landing on planets with tenuous atmospheres is ONLY available to Odyssey owners.
Other Aspects of Horizons and Odyssey
Galaxy State
- The galaxy's background simulations (including Powerplay, factions, commodity markets and outfitting) will continue without disruption and be shared between all players (Horizons and Odyssey) across all platforms.
- Squadrons may be contributed to and administered across both Horizons and Odyssey.
- Fleet Carriers will function and be manageable across Horizons and Odyssey.
- Odyssey Settlements will not appear in the system map or navigation panel of Horizons players.
- All planet ports and settlements on tenuous atmosphere planets will not appear in the system map or navigation panel of Horizons players.
- First footfall tags will only be displayed to Odyssey players.
- Missions will not transfer between Horizons and Odyssey, and their timers will count down as if you were not logged into the game when you are on the other version.
Matchmaking & Social
- The online status of Friends will be visible across Horizons and Odyssey, but locations will be displayed as "ED: Beyond" or "ED: Odyssey" if you are different versions.
- System text channels will be shared across Horizons and Odyssey.
- Direct text messages can be sent between friends across Horizons and Odyssey.
- Players in Horizons will not be able to form wings or crews with players in Odyssey and vice versa.
- The CQC matchmaker and crew finders will not place Horizons and Odyssey players together.
- Voice communications will not be available across Horizons and Odyssey.
- Squadron members playing Odyssey will appear offline to those viewing them from Horizons and vice versa from the Squadron management screen. This is so they cannot be invited to join a wing or crew from here.
Switching From Odyssey to Horizons Mode
Under some circumstances, your Commander location will need to be reset. For example, if you try to load into the game from the main menu in Horizons mode after playing Odyssey and meeting the following conditions:
- If you were disembarked from your ship or SRV and logged out when on foot in any location.
- If you logged out in a ship, SRV, or on foot in any location on a tenuous atmosphere planet.
- If you logged out in a ship docked at an Odyssey settlement on a planet without an atmosphere.
- If you logged out when on a ship piloted by Apex Interstellar or Frontline Solutions.
In these cases, your Commander will be placed into your most recently used ship and, if necessary, position it in orbit around the stellar body it was landed on, or docked on a settlement on. As with Horizons, the reset option will not available to you if your ship was destroyed at the time you logged out. Instead, a message encouraging you to re-access Elite through the Odyssey client will appear.
In addition, due to the terrain changes in Odyssey, the following will happen when switching over while landed on a planet without an atmosphere:
- If you logged out in an SRV, then your ship will need recalling from orbit.
- If you logged out in a ship, then you will load in a short distance above the planet's surface.
Crime
When playing Odyssey after playing Horizons:
When playing Horizons after having played Odyssey:
- Existing commanders’ crimes will be cleared when they first play Odyssey.
- Crimes on players’ ships will be transferred to their commander.
- Crimes will be transferred from commanders to their active vessel.
- Impounded ships will be released, but the impound cost will be added to the bounty for that vessel.
Avatars & Liveries
Inventory Items
- New suit livery items introduced with Odyssey will only be accessible in Odyssey.
- When playing Horizons after having played Odyssey, Commanders will receive a default avatar and flight suit.
- When returning to Odyssey after playing Horizons, avatars will be re-equipped with their Odyssey suits.
- The default 'opaque helmet' avatar image will be displayed when viewing Odyssey players from Horizons in screens like Recently Encountered players, or Squadron Members.
- Any new ship livery items purchased in Odyssey should still be accessible in Horizons.
- Odyssey suit and weapon livery items will not be available for purchase through the store in Horizons.
- Any purchased items will remain in Odyssey for when you next log into it.
- ARX earned by playing Odyssey can be redeemed in Horizons and vice versa.
Codex
- The contents of Odyssey players’ backpacks and storage will only be available whilst playing Odyssey. They will not take any inventory capacity away from Horizons.
- Any new organics species introduced for ED: Odyssey will only be present in players’ codex whilst playing ED: Odyssey
Local options storage
- Odyssey uses different files to Horizons in %appdatalocal%\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options to save configuration options, such as Audio, Graphics and Custom Key Bindings.
- Odyssey shares some files with Horizons, such as visited star systems.
Thank you for your feedback and patience as we navigate through the huge transition for Elite Dangerous marked by Odyssey. We hope this follow up has gone some way to clarifying the details raised after the initial announcement. If you have any further queries, please leave them in the replies.
o7
Thanks for the clarification Bruce. This sounds a bit messy if I'm honest, but I personally don't intend to log out of Odyssey too much, so hopefully no issues!
Yeah what are the system requirements? Strange to have nothing but the OS mentioned on the steam/frontier pages a day before launch...
Ozric
Volunteer Moderator
It is only the squadron management screen you can't see them in.
thanks for clarifying!
as i spend a lot of time playing the bgs - "All planet ports and settlements on tenuous atmosphere planets will not appear in the system map" - this means, non-odyssee players will be confronted with minor faction conflicts over assets they don't know off.
compared to the base-game/horizon solution, where you could see the ports and planetary installations on system map even if running the base game, that's a serious set-back.
as i spend a lot of time playing the bgs - "All planet ports and settlements on tenuous atmosphere planets will not appear in the system map" - this means, non-odyssee players will be confronted with minor faction conflicts over assets they don't know off.
compared to the base-game/horizon solution, where you could see the ports and planetary installations on system map even if running the base game, that's a serious set-back.
Fantastic news! Thanks.Greetings Commanders,
Thank you all for your comments and feedback on the recent announcement regarding Odyssey and Horizons compatibility. We understand that the post left some aspects unclear which we'd like to address below. We've also included some additional details.
Instancing and Graphical Improvements
To clarify the circumstances under which instances may be shared across versions of the game, and when visual changes will be seen, we've made the following tables. The first applies to the time between PC and console launch, and the other to the time following console launch:
From PC Launch to Console Launch
After Console Launch
Landing on planets with tenuous atmospheres is ONLY available to Odyssey owners.
Other Aspects of Horizons and Odyssey
Galaxy State
- The galaxy's background simulations (including Powerplay, factions, commodity markets and outfitting) will continue without disruption and be shared between all players (Horizons and Odyssey) across all platforms.
- Squadrons may be contributed to and administered across both Horizons and Odyssey.
- Fleet Carriers will function and be manageable across Horizons and Odyssey.
- Odyssey Settlements will not appear in the system map or navigation panel of Horizons players.
- All planet ports and settlements on tenuous atmosphere planets will not appear in the system map or navigation panel of Horizons players.
- First footfall tags will only be displayed to Odyssey players.
- Missions will not transfer between Horizons and Odyssey, and their timers will count down as if you were not logged into the game when you are on the other version.
Matchmaking & Social
- The online status of Friends will be visible across Horizons and Odyssey, but locations will be displayed as "ED: Beyond" or "ED: Odyssey" if you are different versions.
- System text channels will be shared across Horizons and Odyssey.
- Direct text messages can be sent between friends across Horizons and Odyssey.
- Players in Horizons will not be able to form wings or crews with players in Odyssey and vice versa.
- The CQC matchmaker and crew finders will not place Horizons and Odyssey players together.
- Voice communications will not be available across Horizons and Odyssey.
- Squadron members playing Odyssey will appear offline to those viewing them from Horizons and vice versa from the Squadron management screen. This is so they cannot be invited to join a wing or crew from here.
Switching From Odyssey to Horizons Mode
Under some circumstances, your Commander location will need to be reset. For example, if you try to load into the game from the main menu in Horizons mode after playing Odyssey and meeting the following conditions:
- If you were disembarked from your ship or SRV and logged out when on foot in any location.
- If you logged out in a ship, SRV, or on foot in any location on a tenuous atmosphere planet.
- If you logged out in a ship docked at an Odyssey settlement on a planet without an atmosphere.
- If you logged out when on a ship piloted by Apex Interstellar or Frontline Solutions.
In these cases, your Commander will be placed into your most recently used ship and, if necessary, position it in orbit around the stellar body it was landed on, or docked on a settlement on. As with Horizons, the reset option will not available to you if your ship was destroyed at the time you logged out. Instead, a message encouraging you to re-access Elite through the Odyssey client will appear.
In addition, due to the terrain changes in Odyssey, the following will happen when switching over while landed on a planet without an atmosphere:
- If you logged out in an SRV, then your ship will need recalling from orbit.
- If you logged out in a ship, then you will load in a short distance above the planet's surface.
Crime
When playing Odyssey after playing Horizons:
When playing Horizons after having played Odyssey:
- Existing commanders’ crimes will be cleared when they first play Odyssey.
- Crimes on players’ ships will be transferred to their commander.
- Crimes will be transferred from commanders to their active vessel.
- Impounded ships will be released, but the impound cost will be added to the bounty for that vessel.
Avatars & Liveries
Inventory Items
- New suit livery items introduced with Odyssey will only be accessible in Odyssey.
- When playing Horizons after having played Odyssey, Commanders will receive a default avatar and flight suit.
- When returning to Odyssey after playing Horizons, avatars will be re-equipped with their Odyssey suits.
- The default 'opaque helmet' avatar image will be displayed when viewing Odyssey players from Horizons in screens like Recently Encountered players, or Squadron Members.
- Any new ship livery items purchased in Odyssey should still be accessible in Horizons.
- Odyssey suit and weapon livery items will not be available for purchase through the store in Horizons.
- Any purchased items will remain in Odyssey for when you next log into it.
- ARX earned by playing Odyssey can be redeemed in Horizons and vice versa.
Codex
- The contents of Odyssey players’ backpacks and storage will only be available whilst playing Odyssey. They will not take any inventory capacity away from Horizons.
- Any new organics species introduced for ED: Odyssey will only be present in players’ codex whilst playing ED: Odyssey
Local options storage
- Odyssey uses different files to Horizons in %appdatalocal%\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options to save configuration options, such as Audio, Graphics and Custom Key Bindings.
- Odyssey shares some files with Horizons, such as visited star systems.
Thank you for your feedback and patience as we navigate through the huge transition for Elite Dangerous marked by Odyssey. We hope this follow up has gone some way to clarifying the details raised after the initial announcement. If you have any further queries, please leave them in the replies.
o7
In the Epic store the Odyssey is flagged as a DLC for Elite Dangerous and so it shares the same system requirements with the Horizons (base) version
In the Steam Store, Odyssey has no other system requirements except... Windows
They will once they manage (hopefully) to make horizons specs work well with the odyssey tech (hence the "after console launch").
They just didn't manage to make it happen for tomorrow (and for the next few months).
PS: Also for the UI, EDH players will get it after the reunification, because it will basically be the same client
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