What fps is acceptable?

I see people on here complaining that they only get 60 fps....... if you turned your counter off would you even know? What can the human eye discern?

Now, I am only getting 20 fps and I can sure as hell discern that - it runs like a dog.
20 and up is all great for me. Sometimes I get 17 and it still plays fine. The only issue is that less than that and I can tell the drag when you move around. Strangely enough a couple of times now, I noticed that in a powered down settlement, it's fine until I power it up. After the power is on, suddenly it's laggy. Makes combat difficult.
 
Today i DOWNclocked my 1080ti and got 40fps inside a burning building during a CZ. :unsure::coffee: Used to get 12 or 15.
Never above 85. It otherwise goes 1900mhz boost but sometimes crashes.
Your card is actually thermal throttling, @Tom Jacobs
While NVIDIA doesn’t publish this information directly, the GTX 1080 Ti’s preset thermal throttle point is 84C, which is a degree or two higher than on NVIDIA’s previous cards. As a result, the card reaches equilibrium at a slightly higher temperature than NVIDIA’s other cards.
Source.

The game pushes GPUs super hard, which isn't surprising given the known issues with occlusion and the convoluted rendering pipeline in the current build. It also explains your crashes - your card is overheating.
 
Lowering the resolution gave you better performance? I've been limited with the amount of time that I've been able to try things out for myself (bloody kids) but from what I've read on here I got the impression that lowering the settings usually does nothing for most people?

It depends on just where the bottleneck is. If you are CPU limited then dropping the resolution will do very little, indeed all you would be doing is making your system more cpu limited. If your system is in this state then you'll want to look at dropping more CPU intensive options rather than dropping the resolution

On the other hand a GPU limited system would benefit from a drop in resolution simply because
 
Your card is actually thermal throttling, @Tom Jacobs

Source.

The game pushes GPUs super hard, which isn't surprising given the known issues with occlusion and the convoluted rendering pipeline in the current build. It also explains your crashes - your card is overheating.
In boost it hits 1950MHz. 85 is hot ? it cant get any better i clean my pc every year and apply new paste like iv done for the past 15 years.
 
In boost it hits 1950MHz. 85 is hot ? it cant get any better i clean my pc every year and apply new paste like iv done for the past 15 years.

I have an EVGA 1080ti FTW3, (only) a double-height card that runs up to around 72deg at most on it's standard fan profile. On a louder fan profile it maxes out around 66deg in my case.

If you are confident the paste & dust are not an issue you could try using an overclocking tool to run the fans at higher speed as a test to see how your PC behaves at lower temps. It may help you to decide where the issue lies.
 
In boost it hits 1950MHz. 85 is hot ? it cant get any better i clean my pc every year and apply new paste like iv done for the past 15 years.
Every GPU has its equivalent to Intel's Tj Max value. When the temperature sensor reports that value, it triggers a drop in clock speeds and voltages to bring the temperature down. It's a value determined by Nvidia.

85°C is too hot, so it throttles. If you're comfortable repasting the GPU, you could try a TIM with better thermal properties like Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut (be very careful with liquid metal though!) or even put a watercooling solution on it - water has a much higher specific heat capacity than air. Alternatively, the devs could
fix Odyssey.
 
Even though the devs specified a GTX 1060 6GB for its recommended system specs?

Now you're trolling.
He's very obviously trolling.
There's nothing advanced in the graphics of Odyssey, compared to Horizons.
If your card is capable of giving you decent frame rates in Horizons (and most 10's series cards certainly are), then they should be absolutely able to handle Odyssey as well. The fps difference shouldn't be higher than 10 to 20%.
 
I have an EVGA 1080ti FTW3, (only) a double-height card that runs up to around 72deg at most on it's standard fan profile. On a louder fan profile it maxes out around 66deg in my case.

If you are confident the paste & dust are not an issue you could try using an overclocking tool to run the fans at higher speed as a test to see how your PC behaves at lower temps. It may help you to decide where the issue lies.
i have the ichill x3, gonna see what it does in afterburner but so weird since the underclock that someone recommended me i have had the highest ever fps in a cz.

Should be 60 + constant ofcourse.
 
Thanks for the reply - I'll keep my rig thanks :). Yes I do find I have to restart, but this has until now been a question of restart with no visible effect. Your reply had told me to keep trying as there is clearly something 'broken' locally for me. This setup has all the cruft since the first Beta on it and I've been using EDProfiler to launch with and without VR, so no doubt the answer lies in a corrupted file somewhere.
To finish this loop. This did 'fix' it, I was getting 25-30fps at 4k, now 50fps but only after dropping to 1080p. I can get that in Horizons at 4k, though I haven't fine tuned anything yet.
 
What can the human eye discern?
There's no simple answer to that because it depends on many factors and also because the eye doesn't see the world in term of FPS. Retinal persistence is also a factor. The flash of a camera for example lasts around 1 millisecond, and as you know it's easily visible.

Generally speaking, I start noticing a difference from 60 FPS if I dip below 50 FPS. But I notice a huge difference between 120 and 60 FPS too (need a 120Hz monitor for that though).

Also in games, the difference isn't just visual, inputs are affected by framerate too.
 
I see people on here complaining that they only get 60 fps....... if you turned your counter off would you even know? What can the human eye discern?

Now, I am only getting 20 fps and I can sure as hell discern that - it runs like a dog.
60-120 or better. You would know, immediately.
 
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