And the downside to that in EDO is that there's no "Stay where you are" for the mothership Autopilot any more - so I have this cow trying to navigate a 'Conda down some dark gully...
New Planet Tech is KILLER of Exploration (all terrain is tiling/repeating/not procedural/random)
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Nah, he should be right, number of EDO players and ratio of them doing exploring is high enough for such assumptions.
Of course this is still a "estimated by my gut" value.
It can be confirmed (or falsified) by parsing through eddn updates, but it's really not a task I would take on for some forum "opinions duel"
EDIT: wait, was "we as community" referring to "EDO community" or "hoonigans" community?
Whatever, this is all just becoming too "stirring the pot" focused.
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That doesn't surprise me in the slightest. If anyone else had asked, I'd have happily explained in detail beyond 'badly', but for you - I'll just leave it with "go find out".
When someone says "Here is something," we have gone to those locations to examine them ourselves. We have a group dedicated for this specific task of finding Hooning planets.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/eliteexplorers/comments/nj7wpf/attention_all_elite_explorer_cmdrs_the_hoon/
When I say that we have not found anything that is close to what Horizons readily offers, it is not because of lack of trying or willful ignorance. People post their finds regularly and we actively visit them. Nothing is remotely close to the Horizons terrain in terms of difficulty.
When you say that you hope FDev doesnt accomodate our requests at the expense of your gameplay, you are stating our exact frustration, except for us its not a hypothetical. FDev made a change that caters to on foot gameplay, and completely removed our gameplay from Elite Dangerous.
It's not as if Horizons terrain does not offer good on foot vistas. It just had that PLUS interesting and challenging terrain to fly through. If Fdev made an accomodation for us, there would still be many planets and places that work great for walking around and driving an srv.
EDIT: Haha holy cow. I thought it was just post the link not a pic of the entire Reddit post.
Nah, he should be right, number of EDO players and ratio of them doing exploring is high enough for such assumptions.
Of course this is still a "estimated by my gut" value.
It can be confirmed (or falsified) by parsing through eddn updates, but it's really not a task I would take on for some forum "opinions duel"
EDIT: wait, was "we as community" referring to "EDO community" or "hoonigans" community?
Whatever, this is all just becoming too "stirring the pot" focused.
Yes, when I said thousands I was referring to the community as a whole. As for the Hooning community specifically, we have probably seen ourselves somewhere close to ~200 planets amongst the group. But then again a lot of those are flybys of specific cherry picked planets that other exployers have found for us and shared (either on reddit/forums or or our specific discord).
SLF usage seems to be too limited, so I've made me a quick build from whatever I had on my FC and it does a solid job of some low altitude fooling around while I am already landing on planets anyway.
It's absurdly overshielded and much too heavy for real "hooning" - because it has to do exploring job too and because I really don't want to lose all carto data because of the "fooling around" part
It can stand a full speed crash with some secondary ricochet(s) without losing the shields.*Jump range is not an issue, I am currently in an area where stars are very dense.
The build:
https://edsy.org/s/vo4rR8C
*at the end there is 500m/s crash, it barely scratched the first shield ring
Better save then sorry.
This video also shows how bad current terrain is for such purposes - only a small part of the space between hills was really "canyon-like".
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How long since horizons was linked did it take to find pomeche 2c.Nah, he should be right, number of EDO players and ratio of them doing exploring is high enough for such assumptions.
Of course this is still a "estimated by my gut" value.
It can be confirmed (or falsified) by parsing through eddn updates, but it's really not a task I would take on for some forum "opinions duel"
EDIT: wait, was "we as community" referring to "EDO community" or "hoonigans" community?
Whatever, this is all just becoming too "stirring the pot" focused.
it might take about the same time to find such a planet in Odyssey
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Why the obsession with Pom 2C? It's been well known for years. Even has a POI called Epic Mountain Range (which is now on the floor
).You seem to just be wilfully ignoring the info provided. Pom 2C isn't particularly unique. Just one amongst thousands. It's not even the best in EDH.
It's the best in EDO though due the 'handcrafting', but still utterly inadequate.
Since you're really hung up on it tho: I estimate it'd take a lone pilot under 30 minutes to find a decently hoonable planet, from any given location, in EDH. Longer in sparse regions, less in dense. Lots of people have had weeks in EDO, and none so far...
Yeah - it does that when you add a link!
I can see that frustration.
You state that about Horizons but there's no way you can actually verify that, because the closest you get to it is the SRV. Try it in Odyssey and you will see the big difference between driving an SRV (badly since a small minority screamed about it in Alpha stage one and got it changed before others actually got to try it out on different surfaces - now we have this hot mess!)
Since I've made that argument many times, quoted devs on the matter, and provided many examples of why the tech in Horizons is substandard - I'll not repeat myself. Besides, I'll be called whatever rude names come in to people's heads for trying to be articulate and persuasive - but failing miserably. Thanks for understanding.
It was just an example Sr, what´s the problem?¿Por qué la obsesión con Pom 2C? Es bien conocido desde hace años. Incluso tiene un PDI llamado Epic Mountain Range (que ahora está en el suelo : ROFLMAO: ).
Parece que ignoras deliberadamente la información proporcionada. Pom 2C no es particularmente único. Solo uno entre miles. Ni siquiera es el mejor en EDH.
Es el mejor en EDO aunque debido a la 'artesanía', pero sigue siendo completamente inadecuado.
Ya que estás realmente obsesionado con eso: calculo que un piloto solitario tardaría menos de 30 minutos en encontrar un planeta decente, desde cualquier lugar, en EDH. Más largo en regiones dispersas, menos densas. Mucha gente ha tenido semanas en EDO, y ninguna hasta ahora ...
He's a bit snappy today. Think I'll come back tomorrow.
Puh, patch incoming tomorrow:
forums.frontier.co.uk
Odyssey and Horizons Patch - 03/06/2021
Greetings Commanders! A patch and its change list will arrive tomorrow at 09:00 BST (08:00 UTC) with one hour of expected downtime. It contains many fixes and improvements for Odyssey: UI, optimisation, and much more! Horizons will also receive some improvements. o7
What cracks me up, and I have been meaning to turn it into an Elite meme, is that every planetary body has the Japanese sun on it. And it's almost symmetrically perfect--even up close. I'm starting to believe that they have claimed territory in just about every system in the galaxy. They're always ten steps ahead...but that's okay because they are imperials, and so am I
I just landed on a totally charred planet very close to the star and then thought, I might check out the dark side and see if it's charred as well, since the body is tidally locked.
It doesn't seem it is! I got to check more planets and see if I am mistaken, but if it's true that would be awesome!
Burned on one side, intact on the other.
Thought I'd leave this here.
It doesn't seem it is! I got to check more planets and see if I am mistaken, but if it's true that would be awesome!
Burned on one side, intact on the other.
Thought I'd leave this here.
I must have missed your previous arguments and quotes before. What does the Horizens tech do to limit on foot gameplay?
It's like with the release and the recommend hardware settings: They don't know til it's delivered themselves"A patch and its change list will arrive tomorrow"
Thanks a lot for letting us know what to expect in advance,
so we can avoid pointless arguments about direction of EDO changes,
thanks to all the info we have from patch notes.
Limit in this case may be twofold.
First, the generated terrain was perhaps not really good traversable on foot.
And the second: Horizon planets looked okayish in SRVs but the tech could never have generated surfaces we see now and let's be honest, Odyssey is a lot about "the lookz" after all.
Well, actually a dev answered this when the question came up in another thread."A patch and its change list will arrive tomorrow"
Thanks a lot for letting us know what to expect in advance,
so we can avoid pointless arguments about direction of EDO changes,
thanks to all the info we have from patch notes.
That's progress concerning communication! That thread will now stop speculating when the next patch will come and not go rampant with people who will claim it will take a week at least or something like that.
And he even said that there will be UI stuff and optimization.
The thread can now continue speculating about the rest, but that's definitely something!
I've found an oversight and one bug, in the game.
Oversight - Hot, non-traversable (on foot) bodies should be traversable on the dark side, or at least on the dawn/ dusk side (transition areas). Even if for a short while, subsequent death lol. Both non-atmospheric and tenuous atmospheric planets don't have enough atmospheric pressure to hold the heat/ cold in. So the solution should really be just as easy as finding the most habitable zone to land in. On a body right near the star, that should be either the dark side, or transition/ median.
Bug - Terrain seems to load too early, upon logging in, making it so that my once parked ship now has to hover (spawning into a flying ship, essentially).
Oversight - Hot, non-traversable (on foot) bodies should be traversable on the dark side, or at least on the dawn/ dusk side (transition areas). Even if for a short while, subsequent death lol. Both non-atmospheric and tenuous atmospheric planets don't have enough atmospheric pressure to hold the heat/ cold in. So the solution should really be just as easy as finding the most habitable zone to land in. On a body right near the star, that should be either the dark side, or transition/ median.
Bug - Terrain seems to load too early, upon logging in, making it so that my once parked ship now has to hover (spawning into a flying ship, essentially).
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