Has the hysteria died down yet?

A bit less because of the bundle, tho. Dunno what it is in dollars but 55€ bundled and 60€ base game+odyssey. I'd haphazard to guess that on summer sale it will be the typical 40€ price range with base game price slashed. (E: In Steam that is)
 
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It's same but Horizon is faster to tape than Elite Dangerous 🤷‍♂️
And most people still refere to ED when using Horizon, so...
Yes you do need to buy ED (which now includes Horizons) before you can play the DLC - EDO. Its a business model for many, many games these days.
 
It's same but Horizon is faster to tape than Elite Dangerous 🤷‍♂️
And most people still refere to ED when using Horizon, so...
So your point is that a completely new player needs yo buy Elite Dangerous and Odyssey if they want all content?
I think that's pretty normal. And if they don't like to pay 'full price' (ED already is much cheaper than it was at release) there are regularly sales where you can get the game for a fiver. There even was the chance to get it for free on the epic store. And anyone who still doesn't own the game after 7 years probably isn't that much interested in it anyway, right?
 
$70. You have to buy Horizon ($30) to buy Odyssey ($40).
Base game often on sale, and mostly picked up for free on epic. 3rd party retailers sell for about 60-70% off on horizons anyway. $50 maybe for the whole lot (dollars aren't my currency)
 
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Can someone point me to the official source where they ditched the "season" model in favour of something else?
Bug fixing and finishing the launch game isn't something that should be done during updates in a season model. Season model would be adding new content in free updates, not completing existing content in free updates. That is what Early Access is for, and this should've been marketed as that. It would've made for much more considered reviews.
 
Bug fixing and finishing the launch game isn't something that should be done during updates in a season model. Season model would be adding new content in free updates, not completing existing content in free updates. That is what Early Access is for, and this should've been marketed as that. It would've made for much more considered reviews.
Aye, but you claimed it was marketed as a finished game and to that, I asked for a source. Season model is not "finished game", it's the base features to build upon.

As for patching and fixing after releasing the 1.0 of anything, I suppose there is a line somewhere. Day one patches happen on most, if not all games. Many games get patches pretty fast after release, fixing issues that got past the launch version. All games are different, too. Like, releasing a game such as Crusader Kings III, versus adding this much scale to an already ridiculous size of Elite. So I'd say they deserve different evaluation in terms of "what is ok".

Not all companies do things the Early Access way. It's got it's own definitions surrounding it, and laws too, probably. I don't think I've seen Frontier use Early Access even once...
 
Not all companies do things the Early Access way. It's got it's own definitions surrounding it, and laws too, probably. I don't think I've seen Frontier use Early Access even once...

Which would be part of the problem. They're not describing things accurately - which has the effect of misleading people.
 
Yes you do need to buy ED (which now includes Horizons) before you can play the DLC - EDO. Its a business model for many, many games these days.
So your point is that a completely new player needs yo buy Elite Dangerous and Odyssey if they want all content?
I think that's pretty normal. And if they don't like to pay 'full price' (ED already is much cheaper than it was at release) there are regularly sales where you can get the game for a fiver. There even was the chance to get it for free on the epic store. And anyone who still doesn't own the game after 7 years probably isn't that much interested in it anyway, right?
There is so much game where the last expension cost most than the base game+all previous expansion ?
It's like buying a $5 hamburger and adding $7 for a cheese slice, which brings the cheeseburger to $12. Would you pay $12 for a cheeseburger when you can get the burgers for $5 ?

I'd haphazard to guess that on summer sale it will be the typical 40€ price range with base game price slashed. (E: In Steam that is)
Well ... you can also wait for the next expansion. Odyssey will probably be merged with the main game and will be like free, as FDev did with Horizon. You can always delay action until a better opportunity arises.
It's like doing a review of the state you hope the game will be in after a few weeks/months instead of doing a review on the actual state.

Base game often on sale, and mostly picked up for free on epic. 3rd party retailers sell for about 60-70% off on horizons anyway. $50 maybe for the whole lot (dollars aren't my currency)
I take the official price on Frontier Store.
 
Well ... you can also wait for the next expansion. Odyssey will probably be merged with the main game and will be like free, as FDev did with Horizon. You can always delay action until a better opportunity arises.
I think there is pretty significant difference between waiting for a sale that is prolly in a few weeks or so & occurs regularly and waiting two to three years, or even more, but... 🤷‍♀️

Not that it isn't absolutely everyones right to buy ED+EDO in full price if they for some reason really want to do so.
 
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Aye, but you claimed it was marketed as a finished game and to that, I asked for a source. Season model is not "finished game", it's the base features to build upon.
It's mentioned in the wiki page.

 
So come on now is Odyssey, Rise of Skywalker bad?
See, with RoS, I can ignore it entirely and go back to reading stuff like the Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi novels.
Someone's not going to come around to my house in a few months' time and replace my copies of Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command with the novelisations of this trilogy, like is planned with backporting of features like the UI and planet tech to Horizons.
 
Aye, but you claimed it was marketed as a finished game and to that, I asked for a source. Season model is not "finished game", it's the base features to build upon.

As for patching and fixing after releasing the 1.0 of anything, I suppose there is a line somewhere. Day one patches happen on most, if not all games. Many games get patches pretty fast after release, fixing issues that got past the launch version. All games are different, too. Like, releasing a game such as Crusader Kings III, versus adding this much scale to an already ridiculous size of Elite. So I'd say they deserve different evaluation in terms of "what is ok".

Not all companies do things the Early Access way. It's got it's own definitions surrounding it, and laws too, probably. I don't think I've seen Frontier use Early Access even once...
This isn't sold as a season. It's sold as a standalone DLC. Also, it isn't labeled as an alpha, beta, or early access. It sold as a finished product on its release date.
 
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