Big Elite Streamers Giving Up On Streaming Elite?

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The main thing they messed up with all the useless mats is having them and shared storage - so you can waste time collecting things that actively stop you collecting things you want. If it was per-mat limited (as in EDH) then you'd fill it up (like I have with Thargoid Wakes, for example) then stop.

I feel at least some of the useless stuff will be used for CGs etc, so am not too fussed. Apart from CGs for foot-mats will not work as who will empty their engineering-foot-mat stores to take part in a CG?

Oh fdev.
You mean, the very same thing they adressed after horizon ? But somehow, didn't use as the base for future work ? Yeah, that's an issue for me to^^
 
They throw things in to be like real life - where not everything is useful. I don't think there's any malice to it. Having useless stuff in games goes back to the early days of gaming 🤷‍♀️

Though whether we needed quite so much useless stuff ... it does feel like they had great fun making up names and never stopped to think how it would actually work for players.
But there is no short supply of those type of things players have actually been asking for. Ship interiors with or without associated gameplay sounds exactly like this.. the bar in stations....

It just seems like apologizing for something you did, just before intentionally doing it again, while maintaining eye contact.
 
I'm starting to think you guys are just promoting your own or a friend's streams as I struggle to believe I've never heard of any of these alleged content creators
 
They're all real. I've heard of everyone mentioned in this thread. But then, I follow a fair few streams.
Yea but literally anyone can stream. Having a good channel is not the same and I guess talent is subjective. Even my son used to stream fortnite regularly as 11 year old. The only way I've found any of the content creators I know of came from just googling elite dangerous.
 
Less exposure until it's not a hot mess sounds like a genius idea.
Okay... Thats not what you said nor suggested though...

'how to' content has been around long before Odyssey. Unless you're saying that ED's always been a hot mess, then I agree... But that would make it all the more crucial to continue to expose it to potentially new players. Any damage done by doing so is entirely self inflicted by ED itself, but with out new blood any game will die out.

And I'd like to point out that the nature of these 'how to' guides isnt their fault either. The fact that that to accomplish anything demands that you, repeatedly, for an exorbitant amount of time perform the same braindead simple repeated actions. Couple with the fact that some of these tasks are completely disjointed from other tasks exacerbates the issue. They're not part of any core game loop. You either pursuing them, or you're not... No trader/miner/bounty hunter is likely to ever stumble on a guardian site for example. The whole burnout from grinding 'how to' videos is a symptom of a much larger problem ED suffers from as a whole.

Last, I'd like to propose a question:

'How To' guides arnt the only content that creators make. Hell, it's not even the majority. And many are even trying to desperately validate it. So, knowing Odyssey isnt part of a free update (meaning people arnt going to just be returning out of curiosity to check it out, but have to actively buy into it)... Do you honestly think it would do ED, and Frontier as a whole, any favors if people had no choice but to blindly walk into it? If their trusted content creators just didnt bother showing it for what it was? Only then to find out the state of the game... How well do you think that would go over?
 
Okay... Thats not what you said nor suggested though...

'how to' content has been around long before Odyssey. Unless you're saying that ED's always been a hot mess, then I agree... But that would make it all the more crucial to continue to expose it to potentially new players. Any damage done by doing so is entirely self inflicted by ED itself, but with out new blood any game will die out.

And I'd like to point out that the nature of these 'how to' guides isnt their fault either. The fact that that to accomplish anything demands that you, repeatedly, for an exorbitant amount of time perform the same braindead simple repeated actions. Couple with the fact that some of these tasks are completely disjointed from other tasks exacerbates the issue. They're not part of any core game loop. You either pursuing them, or you're not... No trader/miner/bounty hunter is likely to ever stumble on a guardian site for example. The whole burnout from grinding 'how to' videos is a symptom of a much larger problem ED suffers from as a whole.

Last, I'd like to propose a question:

'How To' guides arnt the only content that creators make. Hell, it's not even the majority. And many are even trying to desperately validate it. So, knowing Odyssey isnt part of a free update (meaning people arnt going to just be returning out of curiosity to check it out, but have to actively buy into it)... Do you honestly think it would do ED, and Frontier as a whole, any favors if people had no choice but to blindly walk into it? If their trusted content creators just didnt bother showing it for what it was? Only then to find out the state of the game... How well do you think that would go over?
I stopped after the first sentence. It's all I'm responding to.

I fail to see what that matters. I responded to what you said to what I said. This ain't some magic game where can can cast a redirect to divert from the fact I'm right.

honestly the game would probably feel much less grindy to many players if every 'how to' video didn't instruct players to grind, relog, repeat.

So many cmdrs wouldnt be super inexperienced in an Anaconda, in their first week, on here crying about how much they are crap at the game they barely learned how to play 🤷‍♂️
 
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I didnt bother reading anything you wrote so I have no idea what you said, but I'm going to blindly continue arguing with you anyway rather than counter any points you made
Fixed.

Do me (and everyone in the world in general) a favor then. If you dont read/understand what people write/say, then dont waste their time responding.
 
Fixed.

Do me (and everyone in the world in general) a favor then. If you dont read/understand what people write/say, then dont waste their time responding.
Wasting other peoples time is what I prefer to do with my own time. I'd thank you if you'd block me so I won't upset your delicate sensibilities

Don't waste your own time trying to convince me of something I have my own opinion about perhaps? No one makes you respond to my posts. That's your choice. 🤷‍♂️🤣
 
<literally admits to being a troll>

Don't waste your own time trying to convince me of something I have my own opinion about perhaps? No one makes you respond to my posts. That's your choice. 🤷‍♂️🤣

I guess an intellectual discussion and debate of viewpoints is something outside your grasp (not sure why expected otherwise).

My bad, I'll keep that in mind in the future.
 
I guess an intellectual discussion and debate of viewpoints is something outside your grasp (not sure why expected otherwise).

My bad, I'll keep that in mind in the future.
I'd have to actually care about your opinion for that. I thought I made it clear I do not. Possible the intellectual failings are your own. Ask about me, I only give this treatment to pretentious self righteous types.
 
I'd have to actually care about your opinion for that. I thought I made it clear I do not. Possible the intellectual failings are your own. Ask about me, I only give this treatment to pretentious self righteous types.

XD, wow dude. Just... wow. Some major projection issues here.

Pretentiously ignores some one's structured argument
Immediately resorts to insults and calls others pretentious when called out

Please, stop while your behind.
 
During a PvP League tournament, there are a lot of streamers who also act as referees. Mostly on twitch.

You would have to be in PvP discords to find out about them though.

PvPers generally avoid this forum.
 
Catch up to me on the likes then we can discuss who is behind whom. I'll give you a 6 year head start 😉

Oh, big oof... Pulling the fake internet points card. Sheesh, that's scraping the bottom of the barrel there. Keep digging, I'm now morbidly curious just how low you'll go. Maybe you'll even hit bedrock at this rate.
 
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