What did I do to deserve this?

dewelcodex1

dewelcodex1
All you crime and punishment gameplay enthusiasts, please tell me what I did here? I'm in an anarchy system at a tourist settlement. (On a barren rock with no apparent scenery--that's another issue)
I was testing out my scanner to see if I could scan people while they were watching me... I scanned a guard, he was cool with it--wanted to get it over with quick--then go to this next guy--he was all like -that thing better be calibrated- meanwhile he had a million bounties? He didn't sweat at all until he heard that bounties were confirmed--through my headset I guess?-- Then he goes haywire starts blasting at me like there's no tomorrow, I turn around and the guards are losing their shooting at me like they don't know what to do--some random administrator wandering around whips his gun out and doesn't even know what is going on he's facing the other direction, but he wants a piece too. I didn't pull a weapon out, I didn't shoot back. None of this makes sense to me --especially compared to the ship gameplay.. if you scan someone they don't attack you if they have a bounty--and the cops don't shoot at the scanner.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQP3WBw24-8
 

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That's exactly what you did wrong - you scanned him, detected his bounties, and he knew it.

The base doesn't care that he has out of jurisdiction bounties. It only cares that you are now hostile to one of its occupants.
The base also doesn't care if you have out of jurisdiction bounties.
 

MacIntoc

MacIntoc
vindelanos said:
It only cares that you are now hostile to one of its occupants.
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Yeah... it's a ruse to lull his suspicions in order to better take him by surprise.

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dewelcodex1

dewelcodex1
vindelanos said:
That's exactly what you did wrong - you scanned him, detected his bounties, and he knew it.

The base doesn't care that he has out of jurisdiction bounties. It only cares that you are now hostile to one of its occupants.
The base also doesn't care if you have out of jurisdiction bounties.
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I was scanning him to see if we shared any of the same interests.
Was he hoping my machine broke before the end of the scan? How did he think he was going to get out of that one? I had a plasma rifle, an AR-50 and a laser pistol. He probably flies a sidewinder.
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
You revealed that he's got a bounty and you did it to his face with all his buddies around him. So far as he's concerned, you're a bounty hunter and he's a criminal. A criminal in his own backyard. And you just shouted "I know you've got a bounty!" at him.

Yes, I'd say you deserved to get shot :) Now, go get revenge, go back, slaughter them all in cold blood, then scan for their bounties by targeting their corpses.

And shed a tear for every one that says 'no bounty detected'

It is the way.
 

Moritz Norman

Moritz Norman
Ydiss said:
You revealed that he's got a bounty and you did it to his face with all his buddies around him. So far as he's concerned, you're a bounty hunter and he's a criminal. A criminal in his own backyard. And you just shouted "I know you've got a bounty!" at him.

Yes, I'd say you deserved to get shot :) Now, go get revenge, go back, slaughter them all in cold blood, then scan for their bounties by targeting their corpses.

And shed a tear for every one that says 'no bounty detected'

It is the way.
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If you plan on murdering anyway, is there any purpose to scanning for bounties before killing the NPC? I always scan the corpse.
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
Moritz Norman said:
If you plan on murdering anyway, is there any purpose to scanning for bounties before killing the NPC? I always scan the corpse.
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Nope. This is the way.

(You've got it perfectly :))

OP is basically going through what I went through in alpha. I spent a half day learning how it all works and it resulted in a lot of fines, a few deaths and getting shot at a ton. And a ton more. I loved it.
 

dewelcodex1

dewelcodex1
Ydiss said:
You revealed that he's got a bounty and you did it to his face with all his buddies around him. So far as he's concerned, you're a bounty hunter and he's a criminal. A criminal in his own backyard. And you just shouted "I know you've got a bounty!" at him.

Yes, I'd say you deserved to get shot :) Now, go get revenge, go back, slaughter them all in cold blood, then scan for their bounties by targeting their corpses.

And shed a tear for every one that says 'no bounty detected'

It is the way.
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I think it would have been better for him if we just talked it out.
 
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varonica

varonica
When you scan someone in space with your ship and find they have bounties your only intention is to see if they are worth killing and whether you can do so without going to prison, why should it work differently on the ground? You scan him and find he has bounties, as far as he is concerned your next act will be to shoot him, what did you expect him to do? Wait until you shoot him? Or maybe try to get in the first shot?
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
varonica said:
When you scan someone in space with your ship and find they have bounties your only intention is to see if they are worth killing and whether you can do so without going to prison, why should it work differently on the ground? You scan him and find he has bounties, as far as he is concerned your next act will be to shoot him, what did you expect him to do? Wait until you shoot him? Or maybe try to get in the first shot?
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Because it doesn't have to work exactly the same way. You're literally in their backyard.

I spent a lot of time learning how lots of things worked and I spent my time then sharing that with some feedback on maybe a handful of things but for the last two or three weeks the majority of stuff being said by people talking about infiltration, missions, stealth and settlements is based on players encountering mechanics for the first time and just instantly coming here to complain about it and assert that it has change.

Oh I got attacked. Change it. I died. Change it. I got caught. Change it. I get scanned a lot. Change it. Why did I get a fine? Change it. I went to prison. Change it.
 
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varonica

varonica
Ydiss said:
Because it doesn't have to work exactly the same way. You're literally in their backyard.
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Yes you are, you have invaded their back yard, scanned a resident, found he has bounties, he and all his friends decide you must die before you can report back to the authorities. No it doesn't have to work exactly the same way, but why shouldn't it be consistent?
 

Ydiss

Ydiss
varonica said:
Yes you are, you have invaded their back yard, scanned a resident, found he has bounties, he and all his friends decide you must die before you can report back to the authorities. No it doesn't have to work exactly the same way, but why shouldn't it be consistent?
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Consistent with what?
 

Monk

Monk
Ydiss said:
You revealed that he's got a bounty and you did it to his face with all his buddies around him. So far as he's concerned, you're a bounty hunter and he's a criminal. A criminal in his own backyard. And you just shouted "I know you've got a bounty!" at him.

Yes, I'd say you deserved to get shot :) Now, go get revenge, go back, slaughter them all in cold blood, then scan for their bounties by targeting their corpses.

And shed a tear for every one that says 'no bounty detected'

It is the way.
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Are targets ever in places where they aren't aligned to the locals? Are NPCs ever visitors, like the players?
 
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