Sally did respond in the other thread https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...-ranks-retroactive.578690/page-9#post-9345124 the TLDR is "Was busy, now asking for you guys"
The new" Elite " rankings
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I'm begining to think Fdev don't like me 
What I'm most bothered about is that people who allegedly aren't bothered at all about the new ranks are so bothered about others being bothered.
Oh bother...
Now that answer bothers me because you are bothered.
But what happens if those who aren't bothered are really bothered but trying not to show they aren't bothered because they can't be bothered to be bothered about it 
ok...I disagree with just about everything you've written on this thread but it's all good...we don't have to agree on everything to get along on these boards
It hasn't diminished anything though. Great, you're elite... so is half the playerbase. 50% isn't elite.
This is exactly why I suggested in a dedicated thread that ranks should be dynamic. Instead of some arbitrary threshold, you get "elite" by staying in the top 5% in whatever category. Then there's no question about whether you deserve it or not because you can lose it if you don't work for it. There'd be no need to ever tweak it or add new ranks. And triple elite would really be something because you couldn't do it in stages.
Why move the goalposts ? Why not make the Elite ranking harder instead of easier as they have done ?
It's something I'm passionate about in this game .
I understand that your idea of Elite is totally different to my idea of it .
I'm a grumpy old old git who has played the game for a long ole time and I really dislike the elite ranking change and the continued silence from Fdev and the CM's .
It's something I'm passionate about in this game .
I understand that your idea of Elite is totally different to my idea of it .
I'm a grumpy old old git who has played the game for a long ole time and I really dislike the elite ranking change and the continued silence from Fdev and the CM's .
Yes, a good way to finally drive away players would be to take away their progress not only in a passive way, but proactively by means of demoting them from time to time. You were triple elite king admiral? Tough luck you were away for 3 weeks on holidays, now you are a mostly harmless recruit outsider. Why not just clear all saves every 2 month or so, that would probably also fit FDev's current implementation style better.
The rankings have to change, at least trade and exploration do. They're too easy as is. The only reason I don't have elite in exploration is because I've put literally zero effort into the rank yet.
The goalpost has to move. "Elite" is a relative term. What qualified as Elite IRL in 1850 would barely be considered "affluent" today. Same in the game.
It wouldn't apply to naval ranks, those aren't relative. You can retire from the navy and still be whatever rank you were. But you can't retire from combat, exploration, or even trade and still be considered elite. "Elite" is someone at the top of their game, not a has-been. "Elite" literally means the best of the bunch. How can you be the best at something you aren't actively doing? If that means the title is reserved only for people willing and able to spend every day in-game doing whatever, so be it. I mean, isn't that what "elite" should mean? There's nothing elite about a title that even the most casual player can eventually obtain and keep with zero effort.
1850?? and a has been ?? I'm deeply offended . ( Only joking )
I agree that it has to be made more difficult especially in trade and exploration .
I'm not sold on the keeping up with elite being the best of the best , as that would suggest that some may never reach that rank as they don't play it as often ?
So for an example someone who plays 2 hrs a week for 5 years will never reach it but someone who plays 10 hrs a week for 1 year can ?
But interesting ideas
. ( Only joking ) I agree that it has to be made more difficult especially in trade and exploration .
I'm not sold on the keeping up with elite being the best of the best , as that would suggest that some may never reach that rank as they don't play it as often ?
So for an example someone who plays 2 hrs a week for 5 years will never reach it but someone who plays 10 hrs a week for 1 year can ?
But interesting ideas
Doesnt need more difficulty. FD shot themselves in the foot with trade the way they handled the economy. They created these get rich quick routes - even promoted them and hyper inflated the market. It killed the ship progressions as well.
Funny thing - if they wanted additional rank awards they could have created quests tied to factions / powerplay with special game loops and awards. Hero of the Empire/Federation/Alliance medal, or Aisling gives you a lock of blue hair momento for completing a special mission blah blah blah … too much effort though.
Ya least effort solution to more “content” is add on stars to elite so the grind hamsters can spin around the same wheels a few hundred times more to get their shiny gold stars…. Content Achieved
Funny thing - if they wanted additional rank awards they could have created quests tied to factions / powerplay with special game loops and awards. Hero of the Empire/Federation/Alliance medal, or Aisling gives you a lock of blue hair momento for completing a special mission blah blah blah … too much effort though.
Ya least effort solution to more “content” is add on stars to elite so the grind hamsters can spin around the same wheels a few hundred times more to get their shiny gold stars…. Content Achieved
I guess this is the idea: restrict the "elite" ranking to those who play 24/7 and have no life. Making the game your job, just to keep that "rank". Essentially, making everything a big long community goal with endless tiers, where only the top 10 CMDRs are considered "elite". Bad idea in my book, as it would make the rankings completely pointless to most players, since they would never reach it, anyway, not see much progress, and in the end can't even judge other CMDRs by it (that guy you came across with "harmless" might actually know more about combat than you, he was just on holidays recently).
@sallymorganmoore @Arthur Tolmie @David Braben @Zac Cocken Just a weekly tag to see if anyone would like to have a go at answering the question?
Not happy about it. Bolting on now feels like a real kick in the guts for those who have been triple elite for some time. Odyssey is just full of poorly considered changes in my opinion and just adds to the feeling that Fdev really don't care about what the players actually want from the game a great deal.
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Looking at Horizons vs. Odyssey, it looks like an Odyssey newcomer can reach "ELITE +" , whereas far more seasoned Horizons Commanders are "stuck" with the classic Ranks.
Essentially it means it becomes impossible to figure out the "who is who" in the Galaxy, since there's comparably new Odyssey CMDRs already being ranked far higher than even the most seasoned Horizons CMDRs.
It doesn't make any sense the way it was done.
I can only assume there were a few goals that these "Lvl 50 Character" slots were supposed to achieve :
Brings back memories of an old Engineering wisdom :
Essentially it means it becomes impossible to figure out the "who is who" in the Galaxy, since there's comparably new Odyssey CMDRs already being ranked far higher than even the most seasoned Horizons CMDRs.
It doesn't make any sense the way it was done.
I can only assume there were a few goals that these "Lvl 50 Character" slots were supposed to achieve :
- "buy Odyssey and you can become cooler than the Horizons plebes"
- "we don't want recognition for the experienced old Generation of Players who've been with ELITE since many years and make them indistinguishable from average Players"
Brings back memories of an old Engineering wisdom :
Reaching Elite has meaning.
Reaching Elite II doesn't have any. Even Elite V is something I don't care about.
Reaching Elite doesn't really have a meaning. You ground for a prolonged time. And it's good like that. Would be a shame if they goalpost more content behind grindwalls.