Has Frontier acknowledged how much PZ crashes?

I often have the game crash on start up. And occasionally at other times as well. Thankfully, the mid-game crashes have decreased a lot for me personally (fingers crossed that saying that out loud doesn't increase them again), but the start up ones still happen quite often. Sometimes daily, and sometimes 3-4 days a week.

I always try to send the on-screen report thing, and trust that those go somewhere useful. I've always assumed that the "various bugs and fixes" includes working toward this, but understand that finding all of them is probably like finding a ton of needles in a ton of haystacks.

Usually the start up crash that I get will happen once, and then it will let me in. A few times it has made me restart 2 or 3 times, but usually lets me in after that. I thankfully haven't had it where I can't get in at all. (Although I know that there may be others for whom that's been the case).

I've tried all various suggestions that I've seen made (verifying files, updating, restarting, checking connections, etc.), but since I'm not a computer genius and don't live with one, and since it's mostly happening for me at the beginning of a play session instead of in the middle so I'm not losing things, I've mostly just sort of accepted it as part of my log in/load in time each day. (While still sending the report, of course, in case it helps the devs identify the problem).

At any rate, just wanted to say that it's a real thing for me as well, and not connected to negativity about the game itself. I just don't think to mention it very often because it's become a part of my routine.
The startup bug is correlated with Steam. If you completely turn of Steam, restart it and then open Planet Zoo again, you get the exact same startup bug.

It's pretty annoying, it got introduced right around the SA DLC and I swear I've reported it with the above information more than I can count 😅 I do hope this at least gets fixed, because as much as I'm "okay" with the routine of having to start up the game, watch it crash and then actually start it; I would love for it to be over. :p
 
I allways wonder after every update what causes the crashes with others (other then just a not so powerfull computer), because I can play many hours a day and I never had any crashes
Yeah I'm kind of in the same boat. I've had the occasional crash over the years, but nothing like what some people are dealing with.
 
The startup bug is correlated with Steam. If you completely turn of Steam, restart it and then open Planet Zoo again, you get the exact same startup bug.

It's pretty annoying, it got introduced right around the SA DLC and I swear I've reported it with the above information more than I can count 😅 I do hope this at least gets fixed, because as much as I'm "okay" with the routine of having to start up the game, watch it crash and then actually start it; I would love for it to be over. :p

Thank you! This is very helpful. At least it gives me some comfort that it's not (necessarily) something wrong with my computer, since I'm certain you've got a better set up than I do.

I've gotten into the habit of starting up and then going to make coffee or grab a soda while it works it's computer magic (a very technical term).

I may try to start adding "Crashed on startup/First opening from Steam" in the reports I send, in case this somehow helps them narrow it down or distinguish from crashes people may be getting for other reasons.
 
I've been having crashes since update 1.6. They are never at start-up, always during game play but usually for no apparent reason that I can see. Sometimes when I clicked something, it would just freeze for a minute, sometimes it would freeze and then crash, sometimes it would just crash. I almost became paranoid to click on anything. I haven't played for two days but I think it's about time I tried again. I'm just not used to this.
 
Let's all take a deep breath...In...then out...

P.S. My drivers are up to date haha. I repeat, they are up to date.

I removed the underwater feeder from the zoo I was working on and experiencing crashes with and that did stop in-game crashes from happening. So that was a helpful tip, thank you.
Crashes when starting up the game are still very very common.

Anywho, hello community managers 👋😋
 
I've been having crashes since update 1.6. They are never at start-up, always during game play but usually for no apparent reason that I can see. Sometimes when I clicked something, it would just freeze for a minute, sometimes it would freeze and then crash, sometimes it would just crash. I almost became paranoid to click on anything. I haven't played for two days but I think it's about time I tried again. I'm just not used to this.

Are there large bodies of water? That seems to be an issue for some. As is the underwater feeder (in my case) which seems to be broken and causing crashes at the mo
 
Not sure what you mean by "large bodies of water". I have a habitat with King Penguins and Gray Seals, but their water isn't overly big for what they require. I will double check on the underwater box feeders in case I missed something somewhere. It's possible.
 
I too have noticed an increase of crashes since the update. Thought it was the mods, so I put them in a separate folder, and when that didn't work, reinstalled, verified files, still crashed. Video card is up to date and all that good stuff. Going to try if its the underwater feeder thing.
 
I too have noticed an increase of crashes since the update. Thought it was the mods, so I put them in a separate folder, and when that didn't work, reinstalled, verified files, still crashed. Video card is up to date and all that good stuff. Going to try if its the underwater feeder thing.
What I've heard about the last 1.6 update, you maybe need to do more.
I've heard some people comment about clearing their entire trade centre fixed it. I think there's a YT video from some of the modders about mods and 1.6 and the things you maybe have to do. I would recommend looking for those.

Btw, verifying doesn't remove or fix mod problems (depends on type of mod). In the worst case: you may need to delete all the affected savegames. I think I remember that 1 corrupted savegame can cause crashes as well.

The crashing on start up is a pretty common issue it seems and has been for a long long time and with the latest update I'm getting even more (and I see it's common due to the amount of posts I see on Reddit and the steam forum about it)
I started around 1.5. I agree, kinda surprised they haven't addressed it. glad to see the underwater feeder removal helped somewhat (didn't know that either)

I don't know how many people who complain about crashes have used mods or are currently using (outdating) mods but glad to see you didn't (for bug reasons only :D). Do you have any other gamestores running at the same time? I know that the Epic Store caused major issues in the past with the high CPU usage. I've seen several people having no more issues after a clean Windows installation, but that's a bit too drastic at this point.
 
What I've heard about the last 1.6 update, you maybe need to do more.
I've heard some people comment about clearing their entire trade centre fixed it. I think there's a YT video from some of the modders about mods and 1.6 and the things you maybe have to do. I would recommend looking for those.

Btw, verifying doesn't remove or fix mod problems (depends on type of mod). In the worst case: you may need to delete all the affected savegames. I think I remember that 1 corrupted savegame can cause crashes as well.


I started around 1.5. I agree, kinda surprised they haven't addressed it. glad to see the underwater feeder removal helped somewhat (didn't know that either)

I don't know how many people who complain about crashes have used mods or are currently using (outdating) mods but glad to see you didn't (for bug reasons only :D). Do you have any other gamestores running at the same time? I know that the Epic Store caused major issues in the past with the high CPU usage. I've seen several people having no more issues after a clean Windows installation, but that's a bit too drastic at this point.

I'll double check about EGS. I haven't used it in so long but maybe it's been sneakily running in the background...I don't think so though. Thanks for the suggestion. As for Frontier not addressing it, I can sense someone about to barge into the thread to state: "FrOnTIeR aRE a PuBLiClY tRaDEd COmPanY blah blah blah"
:LOL:

Maybe they're (Frontier) all hands on deck with Elite Dangerous at the mo.
 
It's TheDeadYoshi who is posting and it's TheDeadYoshi who is therefore having issues with the game crashing. A brief glance at the PZ subreddit (and I've seen it in other platforms) confirms there are also other people having similar issues, hence why it can be considered relatively common by the person who is posting.
No one suggested this game is rubbish nor that the crashing issues is a huge problem for many players.

It takes no effort to put yourself on someone else's shoes and understand why this thread started. It doesn't cost you money to show some sympathy either.
This person simply wants to play with no crashes and therefore asks for help or an official response. I wonder where else would you suggest this person to share their frustration because they can't play the game properly. What's wrong with posting your (and some other people's) in-game issues in the forum? Seriously....
It's the air of entitlement behind it...
Even if it wasn't meant, it's certainly the way it reads to some people.

Had this discussion before - I read the OP like it was a paying customer who bought the wrong top from a supermarket... It's like people who expect some sort of personal response from a large company and stamping their feet when they don't get one.

I understand frustration, especially when you really want to play a game and you can't.
But there must be a time when you give up. It's not an answer that anyone wants but sometimes it's the ONLY solution - especially if the game is crashing sooooo much.

How would you define common?
20 people? 50 people? Out of how many reviews on Steam? Because not everyone will review the game - the number of players is unknown therefore you can't say the relatively few people (hell, even if it's 200 people!) posting on Reddit have some sort of common issue. Because I bet Frontier has sold way over 2000 units of this game, and thus 200 is just 10% - not very common. Plus, the root cause of the crashing isn't the same for everyone. But there seems to be a large suspect (although not sure that would affect the OP as surely underwater feeders wouldn't enact a game crash on start up?).

But put yourself in Frontier's shoes.
You get people who say the underwater feeders are crashing their games. Then you get people who have underwater feeders working fine.
How do you work out what's happening to those who have the crashes? Because logic says it isn't a problem with the underwater feeders as not everyone is suffering with crashes. So that points to something else on certain systems. Are all those systems AMD or Intel? What graphics card do they have? Ram? Windows version? It's hard to fault find when you haven't got a common theme.
Just like the other chap who has some sort of problem with the "path to destination" and the Quarantine building. Most of their posts are unhelpful to people trying to help (as they're just showing frustration) and the user appear not to take advice very well... stamping their feet, expecting Frontier to fix their specific problem with the game. A very isolated problem.

It's so hard to get the specifics of why a game may crash and the limited support that can be given (IE sending in saved games) is exactly that - LIMITED. Your computer system is different to mine and is different to what Frontier will use. If they play the game and get no crash, where do they go from there? They've tested and it's not crashed for them, so no fault found. Unless everyone has exactly the same components, exactly the same version of Windows and exactly nothing installed but Steam and the single Planet Zoo game, it's pretty hard to figure out what might be causing issues.
Crashes are frustrating and rubbish but most are not easy fixes and every piece of software out there is likely to glitch at some point for someone, even constantly for some people.

I struggle to emphasise as people make mountains out of mole hills these days.
 
The crashing on start up is a pretty common issue it seems and has been for a long long time and with the latest update I'm getting even more (and I see it's common due to the amount of posts I see on Reddit and the steam forum about it). I understand it will be hard, with the pandemic, to address all the issues that might crop up when new content is released but this is an ongoing problem and I send crash reports etc etc etc But what I haven't seen over all these months is anyone from Frontier say: Hi, yes - we know this is happening and we're trying to fix it.

What's going on over in Cambridge, y'all?
Putting this under the discussion we've had as I don't personally see this as me stamping my feet or being entitled. "I understand it will be hard, with the pandemic, to address all the issues that might crop up...What I haven't seen over all these months is anyone from Frontier say..."

I am pinpointing something here which is that communication from Frontier is pretty bad. It's bad across the board for all their games and they've only just started to try a different approach with ED players and you see them give very direct answers now - because they're in trouble over there with that community. With PZ, there are crashes, I see em mentioned everywhere I go (PZ related that is -- including Instagram today) and others in this thread have corroborated what I have said. I'm not absolutely outraged that the game is crashing. I'm just saying, "Hi Frontier, what's going on? You there? Hello? Hell- ... Hello? Please don't ghost me. I have enough of that in my love life T_T"

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EDIT: @SirTophamHatt I just wanted to add that while I don't want to go in circles about this with you, (who has the energy for that?) I did read every word of your post and I get your point of view, even if I disagree with nearly every point you made 😅
 
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Eltanin Casciani

Community Manager
Hi there! Apologies for not getting to this thread sooner, we've been really busy so can't always get to everything immediately so thank you for your patience :)

We have actually already replied in a few other threads, but yes, the dev team is aware that there is an uncommon bug in the newest update that can cause crashes at start, and one due to underwater feeders. They're looking into it, but if you do experience it at any point, submitting your crash reports always helps! You can also help further by sending us your game saves when it happens (from C:\Users\%user_profile%\Saved Games\Frontier Developments\Planet Zoo\%steamid%\Saves) along with your Steam ID (not username). Cheers!
 
I haven't had an issue with crashes on start up, but the game will occasionally quit/crash on me when I'm playing. It's not super common, and has been less frequent recently, so I can't say what triggers it for sure. Seemed to happen most often when I was scrolling around the screen a lot or got distracted for a while and "awakened" my computer while the game was paused or running long enough for sleep mode. I've never used mods either. Keeping my video driver up to date seems to help, though the crashes are occasional enough it's hard to make a clear correlation. I understand the OP's frustrations.

I don't think mentioning issues with the game is being negative, and it's a necessary part of finding solutions to a problem. I can't fathom why someone who isn't even working for the company or forum moderators would get defensive on behalf of Frontier, let alone be rude to someone reporting an issue. I think we all know that tracking down issues can be complicated for game developers and fixing them can involve trade offs with other issues. Frontier can certainly speak for themselves re their reasons for fixing or not fixing various bugs.
 
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@Eltanine thank you so much for this. Do you have a dedicated address to send the game files or do one needs a ticket?

 
Hi there! Apologies for not getting to this thread sooner, we've been really busy so can't always get to everything immediately so thank you for your patience :)

We have actually already replied in a few other threads, but yes, the dev team is aware that there is an uncommon bug in the newest update that can cause crashes at start, and one due to underwater feeders. They're looking into it, but if you do experience it at any point, submitting your crash reports always helps! You can also help further by sending us your game saves when it happens (from C:\Users\%user_profile%\Saved Games\Frontier Developments\Planet Zoo\%steamid%\Saves) along with your Steam ID (not username). Cheers!

Hi Eltanin,

Great to know you all know about the underwater feeder issue already. I just want to point out that it wasn't the latest update that introduced the crashing-on-start-up bug. Unless it was reintroduced, players have been experiencing this for some months now. Just a FYI in case it helps with getting it fixed. Deffo not a new issue.

Now that I've removed the underwater feeders from my zoo, I'm not having crashes during gameplay but will send a save file if I do. My crashes are 90% the start up one. Doesn't ruin my day but it happens very frequently 😨

Thank you for your response.
 
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