I must confess to watching a youtube of a player session in Star Citizen just once, that was enough. The guy was traveling from one place to another, to where his home was I think, I don't really care where, that's not the point, but I found myself fast forwarding miltiple times to get to the end of the Super Cruise...oops sorry Quantum Travel session, then he arrived at his destination port, went down some steps and just missed his train...so he found a bench and sait down to wait for the next train....for 6 minutes.....that was indeed the last time I ever tried to watch a video from SC and indeed almost any video game, watching someone sat down waiting for a train? Nah! I did read somewhere they had made the trains more frequent but I still never bothered to go back and watch more.
Big Elite Streamers Giving Up On Streaming Elite?
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I must confess to watching a youtube of a player session in Star Citizen just once, that was enough. The guy was traveling from one place to another, to where his home was I think, I don't really care where, that's not the point, but I found myself fast forwarding miltiple times to get to the end of the Super Cruise...oops sorry Quantum Travel session, then he arrived at his destination port, went down some steps and just missed his train...so he found a bench and sait down to wait for the next train....for 6 minutes.....that was indeed the last time I ever tried to watch a video from SC and indeed almost any video game, watching someone sat down waiting for a train? Nah! I did read somewhere they had made the trains more frequent but I still never bothered to go back and watch more.
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They're clearly frustrated with how FDev is handling things. They recently posted a collection of clips of interviews with one of the CM's that clearly demonstrate various promises that were undelivered so I can understand why they've effectively turned against them. No one likes to be lied to.
Yamiks is, well, Yamiks. If nothing else, and as long as you take him with a pinch of salt, you can at least be sure he's not in a game's company's pocket. D2EA does good tutorials, but is clearly getting benefits from FDev (he even recently did a video where he showed off a present he got from FDev), so I take his opinion with an even bigger pinch of salt. ObsidianAnt surprised me, in that he went a lot farther in his criticism of FDev than I thought he'd ever do, and it's clear he's now also disillusioned with the game.
Outside of tutorials - which, let's face it are a necessity for much of ED's game play - I see streams and content creators as a barometer. It's their livelihood, in many cases, so they'll tend to have their finger on the pulse of games out there, and it does appear that many of them have decided that the writing is on the wall, in the long run, for ED. Objectively, I can't really disagree.
Nice one. I'm not saying SC doesn't have any good points, and obviously it does have lots of appeal with many people making the switch recently. I was just saying I thought it seemed like an odd fit considering the name of his channel.
Who the hell are they, never heard of them
Exegesis has posted nothing since Odyssey dropped. Obsidian ant is posting everything but elite. Elite week is so passed at fdev that they have disconnected emotionally from the games development. Their words.
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Of course they're higher. Elite is a niche game and those games cater to the casual market. It's why NMS is more popular too, despite it falling flat on it's face at launch. It's also no coincidence that a casual game has more people streaming it too. Wider audience = More followers.
Personally I've always been a fan of sim games. Not so much full-on sims like DCS or Flight Simulator, but "simcade" types that still feel like games and not doing taxes. My brother is who got me into ED. I saw him playing it one night and was interested to try it out. I watched ED streamers later for tutorials, but none of them scream "ED hype man" to me. Even Obsidian Ant has frequent criticisms, and he's the closest content creator to a marketing ad for ED exploration. Most people who might be interested in that facet of the game alone are immediately turned off if they research how deep the game gets mechanically. It takes a certain type of person to stick with ED, let alone try it out for the first time.
I've also watched smaller streamers playing ED, and while they are the most likely to talk up the game (from my experience they are most often in the Honeymoon phase), if you listen to them they are also the most likely to not know how certain aspects of the game actually work. Most of them don't last long, because ED has a small player base and it's just not profitable for them to stream a game that has such a small, albeit hardcore, audience.
I just don't think ED is the type of game that hooks people in through streamers. It's more of the type of game that looks complicated and intimidating if you watch someone stream it. ED livestreams are never as popular as casual games. The highest amount of average viewers on Twitch is lucky to break 150, and if you look at/participate in those chats 99% of those people are not new. They're already playing the game.
Kind enough? You're joking. That's his job - hint: it's in the title. I think they're aware there will be consiquences, but don't care. After all, what are they going to do? Refuse to give them interviews? They don't trust a word they say anyway, so what's the point? I really don't know if you've realized how far this has gone at this stage. Looking at it from the sidelines, I think the community as a whole crossed the Rubicon, and burnt the bridge behind us, some time ago.
NPCs don't EVA or enter player ships, so how did the rescue go?
Except when the (D2EA) tutorial is says, "Need manufacturing instructions? Get from impact site and menu log. Get more from impact site. Menu log again". That's no better than combat logging imho, is cheating the game. No wonder you're not going to enjoy 'the game', YOU AINT PLAYING IT! I'd be asking for my terrarium back .. and banning the guy.
YouTube influencers are dangerous business. Weight in "passionate support" of things they have no genuine interest in, build their name on it, then change their partisan allegiance on a dime and persuade other people to do the same. I draw a real parallel with what happened to Star Wars too. Red Letter Media (one channel!) posted Mr Plinkett's Review of the prequels. However, not only did it inclide personal attacks on the guy who created the originals, which RLM considered so great the prequels were apparently not worthy, those personal attacks went viral. Next thing you know, Lucas sells to Disney and what do you get? JJ Abrams .. and space horses! Well done then and I've had similar nightmares .. McDonalds ads in the EDO concourses anyone? If tube influencers enjoy taking steaming dumps on critical releases, that might be what you get.
Not sure what you do about them except possibly bring your communications back in house, rather than giving these people sneak peeks that allow them to start attack narratives before anyone else can try it for themselves. Professional Media would tend to speak only about positives because either it's understood development is a process or they don't bite the hand that feeds them .. or maybe they're not just knee-jerk offs.
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Red Letter Media are neither influencers nor partisan shills -- so that doesn't really work.
Also, are you seriously saying that RLM are directly responsible for the Disney sequels? The prequels aren't terrible because RLM said so. The sequels aren't awful because of anything they said.
However, I do get your point about the disingenuous relationship between business, lucrative hobbyists (with money to spend) and 'influencers' but that's a bad example. Someone like Wil Wheaton (pretend nerd for hire) is a much more apt example - and someone who particularly grinds my gears as he has worked his way through monetising as many 'geek' interests as can possibly sustain his unbearably smug face*.
* Yikes! He really does annoy me.
I doubt it's much of a loss to anyone. What EliteWeek did was play back what was promised by the CM in question, which largely turned out to be empty promises that were quietly forgotten. Why would you be worried about the possibility of someone not lying to you again?
I find this misplaced loyalty quite odd - it's a bit like listening to a working-class Tory voter.
No I'm saying, the prequels aren't terrible .. at all. Especially if you compare them to the sequels!
At least they're original. It's not about being a shill - or similar "othering" terms - it's about a due respect for source material. Is it any wonder studios dare not take a risk and material gets more and more generic as time goes on? If you can't say anything good, say nothing at all is the maxim because constructive crticism is only constructive if it's addressed directly to the other party relatively confidentially without trying to humiliate them for clicks.
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I'm not condoning how he did it, but if you try to pull someone over the table, if you'll excuse the transliteration, you kind of lose the right to respect or sympathy.
CM's don't control development. They can relay what the community is saying to it but they're not the entire development team.
Oh wait .. are you saying the CM's shouldn't open their mouths until they can guarantee what they say will be implemented in the game?? Because that's been Frontier's 'terrible' policy, all along!
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Tell us then, in fine detail, I look forward to 10,000 words of woe, all backed up with accurate citations to prove each point conclusively.
Then, and only then, might I understand whatever message it is you are attempting to convey.
Politics, the old fall-back... (I assume you are an ex-pat in Switzerland? Otherwise you are walking on very thin ice!)
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