After 7 years, I'm heartbroken at the state of my favorite game.

What have you done.

This game was about exploring space, not ing CoD.

Odyssey Combat Zones are pathetic. Folding Multicrew into the Wing system was a foolish move, you knew (or at least some of you did) better. The fleet carriers though, these things are the real culprit. They destroyed your most attractive gameplay loops. Piracy / PvP... And I KNOW that they're causing problems on the back-end too. Cut them. There's still time.

Remember. Try hard to REMEMBER. Why is Archon Delaine a character? THAT's what we wanted, and by we, I mean the people that actually play your ing game. Not these summer children that WILL be gone before the quarter is out. We want to be space pirates. Now even PvE piracy is broken. Ships jump out with a 0% FSD. Cargo exploding as soon as it's siphoned. Same ing problems for a year and a half now, and you have the audacity to release this heap.

Keep it up Frontier. Watch the Xbox sales. They won't be there, mark my words. You could have done anything, and you decided to do Star Citizen from Wish.com. Do you realize that SC sales are up (and up a lot) since this x-pac released? Those are former Elite players. The Code has disbanded. The AXI doesn't play in the new Xpac because the new shaders make it ing impossible to see threats. CTD can happen anywhere, at any time. We've got a dumb new stealth meta because of the ammo bug too. 100% uptime on premium munitions, including heatsinks. Good job Frontier. Well balanced.

You were the game! DAMN! THE. GAME. Elite looked incredible, and it would run on a potato. I have run this game on an i5 with the hd graphics 4000. Try THAT with Odyssey. On LOW I'm getting 13-15 frames at settlements. With a 2070.

In typical frontier fashion, you fix a few bugs (mostly the wrong ones), and introduced a whole new hive. Patch 5 broke some pretty fundamental things to squeak out a few more frames, all so I can cut open lockers slightly smoother? Raider kits on the anaconda prevent hardpoints from firing. Unlimited premium ammo every time you wake. Have your NPC crew take the ship while you fly a fighter, and you'll find yourself flying both. What a ing joke.

You don't have the RIGHT to make the suit grind this real. For the tolls you've already exacted on my time? I spent a good deal of my life learning how to be good at your game. I know things, trivia, stats, ect., that I doubt I'll ever forget, and god damn that makes me sad. Frustrated. Furious.

Closed Alpha, right to this. you guys.

You don't deserve a salute, you deserve a lawsuit.

- Bobby Stacks

P.S. I'm copping the privilege to say this after spending hundreds in USD on in-game customization and over a dozen copies of the game. I hope you listen to us old-timers. Drop this Agile™ framework rubbish too. It's not you, or at least it didn't used to be. I'm as fed up with you s as I'm sure you are with your community, but who's fault is that. Your thanks is out there hanging out with our apology. Probably in another dimension, or another production studio.

Good luck.
 
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Take a break CMDR. Check in after the console release, whenever that actually turns out to be at this point.

Until then, see you in the 'verse... just kidding... unless?
You're asking me not to play a game I literally JUST bought less than two months ago. Frontier does not deserve the dedication we've given them. Not anymore.

Consoles be damned, either the release will be delayed or it will be a bigger catastrophe than the PC release was.
 
sadly it seems that no one is actually checking the forums for genuine complaints. Or for personal attacks, trolling, flaming, or any other sort of misbehaviour that is running rampant after update 5 broke everything
 
You're asking me not to play a game I literally JUST bought less than two months ago. Frontier does not deserve the dedication we've given them. Not anymore.

Consoles be damned, either the release will be delayed or it will be a bigger catastrophe than the PC release was.
Two months and you talk about dedication? That's rookie numbers 😝

For the record:
I agree with some of your post, but not all of it. Fleet Carriers are fine for example.
And you make the typical mistake of speaking for "us/we" instead of "you".

This won't end well 🙃
 
Two months and you talk about dedication? That's rookie numbers 😝

For the record:
I agree with some of your post, but not all of it. Fleet Carriers are fine for example.
And you make the typical mistake of speaking for "us/we" instead of "you".

This won't end well 🙃
I bought Odessey two months ago. I've been with elite since the beginning. Check the thread title.

And I agree, this probably won't end well. I predict entropy.
 
What have you done.
Created an expansion.

This game was about exploring space, not ing CoD.
This game is about whatever you want it to be. If all you want to do is explore space, nobody is stopping you. Also it's nothing like CoD.

Odyssey Combat Zones are pathetic.
Look good fun to me, haven't tried one yet though. If you don't want to do one, nobody is forcing you to do one either.

Folding Multicrew into the Wing system was a foolish move, you knew (or at least some of you did) better.
Why? Seems like an inspired and much needed addition to me.

The fleet carriers though, these things are the real culprit. They destroyed your most attractive gameplay loops. Piracy / PvP... And I KNOW that they're causing problems on the back-end too. Cut them. There's still time.
Personally I think they should have stayed as squadron assets. But hey. I don't have one, but many others do and enjoy them. Who am I to deny them their enjoyment.

Remember. Try hard to REMEMBER. Why is Archon Delaine a character? THAT's what we wanted, and by we, I mean the people that actually play your ing game. Not these summer children that WILL be gone before the quarter is out. We want to be space pirates. Now even PvE piracy is broken. Ships jump out with a 0% FSD. Cargo exploding as soon as it's siphoned. Same ing problems for a year and a half now, and you have the audacity to release this heap.
All of Powerplay has issues.

Keep it up Frontier. Watch the Xbox sales. They won't be there, mark my words. You could have done anything, and you decided to do Star Citizen from Wish.com. Do you realize that SC sales are up (and up a lot) since this x-pac released? Those are former Elite players. The Code has disbanded. The AXI doesn't play in the new Xpac because the new shaders make it ing impossible to see threats. CTD can happen anywhere, at any time. We've got a dumb new stealth meta because of the ammo bug too. 100% uptime on premium munitions, including heatsinks. Good job Frontier. Well balanced.
It's nothing like Star citizen and thank god for that. If that's what people want they can go for it.

You were the game! DAMN! THE. GAME. Elite looked incredible, and it would run on a potato. I have run this game on an i5 with the hd graphics 4000. Try THAT with Odyssey. On LOW I'm getting 13-15 frames at settlements. With a 2070.
That's beneath minimum specs on horizons, expecting it run Odyssey is foolish. How are you getting 13-15fps in settlements? I have a 2070 and now getting close to 60fps in settlements.

In typical frontier fashion, you fix a few bugs (mostly the wrong ones), and introduced a whole new hive. Patch 5 broke some pretty fundamental things to squeak out a few more frames, all so I can cut open lockers slightly smoother? Raider kits on the anaconda prevent hardpoints from firing. Unlimited premium ammo every time you wake. Have your NPC crew take the ship while you fly a fighter, and you'll find yourself flying both. What a ing joke.
I'm sure you can live with those bugs. There are far more important ones that needed fixing.

You don't have the RIGHT to make the suit grind this real. For the tolls you've already exacted on my time? I spent a good deal of my life learning how to be good at your game. I know things, trivia, stats, ect., that I doubt I'll ever forget, and god damn that makes me sad. Frustrated. Furious.
Nobody is forcing you to grind for you suits. If all you are doing is exploring space (which you said this game is about), why are you grinding for unnecessary upgrades for a suit?
 
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We want to be space pirates.

We?
Are you some kind of royalty?

I dont want to be a filthy scum pirate.
The only good pirate is a hanging pirate.

No, sir.
I like to keep on the right side of the law.
I like to keep things nice and tidy. And i do hate bounties.
So i try no to get any. I really do, although sometimes i fail 😒
 
You don't have the RIGHT to make the suit grind this real. For the tolls you've already exacted on my time?

For what it's worth I don't believe for a single minute the problems with performance have been intentional. We've already had a number of updates improving UI's and performance and personally I expect performance tweaks to continue .. because those will help devs' work, towards console release.

You do realise though, "the grind" is entirely optional right? For a start if you play the game, run transport, procurement and operations missions for material rewards, the suit upgrades will literally come to you. The other point being you don't need an upgraded suit .. for any of it. Yes you might need more skill but isn't that the point? Work hard (grind) or work smart (gitgud)?

There's also no need to engage with FPS at all, though I'd recommend it. Stealth incursions, lots of fun, imho.
 

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Created an expansion.
I'd rather call it "overwrite".

An expansion is supposed to expand on existing features, not replace them outright (planet tech, visuals - both bugged and by design) or directly affect them (performance, adding both regression and new bugs).

As for the OP, gave it a like even though I don't agree with all points (what this game is 'supposed' to be, and you can leave my FC alone tyvm).
 
regardless of how well or badly the original post was written, I have to say, that I am also somewhat heartbroken about the current state of the game. The Full price DLC that is EDO is a month in, and very broken indeed, many missions are not completable due to errors, and it would appear that genuine concerns are being overlooked. The forum itself is becoming divisive and toxic at many levels. I want the game to work, and I want it to flourish, but am having a hard time seeing how that is possible in the short term
 
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That's fine. And I apologize for the suggestion in my post. It was not meant to be unpleasant in any way.
 
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