Ian sometimes people downvote stuff because they just didn't like it. They are allowed to have that opinion even if it goes against the grain. If the majority of people like something it will get upvotes.
Latest stream has more dislikes than likes... FD are you listening?
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why is everyone waiting to hear about something that only exist in fairytales written in the forums
This is the difference of having to read between the lines and making out our own conclusions than the developers go "show and tell" what's what during a live stream.
If the developers have no plans for the game going forward, better to pronounce it dead already and get over it than try this hard to get it (not) fixed.
Just a bit of feedback. If this kind of information had been put in the Developer Update 1 the overall negative reaction to it likely would not have happened. It is okay for the company to say we're looking at A, B & C even if the features are not going to be ready for awhile (or may need to be cancelled down the line), you just need to make sure you say 'subject to change' unless it is something that is 100% in the bag.
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Ideally that would hint at further in-game assets but can just be world building (lore).
Hi Zac,
about the fleet carriers, could you please ask the devs to consider modifying the "transfer all to ship" button to something like "from the selected item, transfer all that fits to ship", because now it's useless as it is?
Thanks in advance.
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Isn't that just the other shoe falling when you fund a title based on great expectations for the future following a limited launch.
IF Elite had just launched with a this is what you get pay £40 and if you like it keep it if not refund then I would be with you.
But FDs entire pitch was based around their vision, having faith in them and being patient..... The problem with this is that then removes any right to refund because if you wait 3 years or so keeping the faith then your consumer rights go out of the window.
7 years on with the game nothing like what I expected , but more importantly not really that much like the game pitched imo I think some players who are disappointed are well within their rights to voice that disappointment (within the rules of the forum).
ED is littered with features which released and were begging to be developed but we're instead seemingly dropped and left hanging.
It's a damn shame imo.
If the game works well for you and ticks your boxes then great, but I don't think you should chastise those who it doesn't work properly for for voicing their issues.
Frontier have my money for elite so "so what if Mad Mike is disappointed" you may ask... The thing is I backed ED on good faith. It is the last time I will ever do that with a frontier product again.
I will now only buy their stuff when I can get a finished version... Which is good for me I save a bundle. Their other games I bought cost me pennies.
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The thing is, Powerplay done right could be a galaxy wide version of Infinity Battlescape and Star Wars Squadrons. Would it be perfect? No. But at least it would have an identity and people know what its for (and not the usual 'I duh it fwar modulz lol' nonsense).
Ian Phillips
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Funny that - What was different about this stream?
Dozens of people in the chat demanding that FD provide them with content that the stream was not advertised to be about, some of them specifically talking about downvoting the stream.
You can look at it any way you like, but I call it petty.
I think you might be tilting at windmills there.. I for one couldn't care less about upvoting or downvoting things and haven't heard of anyone trying to coordinate it. if I had to guess why it's getting downvoted it's probably because this 'new era' of communication is proving too much like the old 'new era' and people desperate for news of their game in a desperate state went to a stream calles 'Supercruise news' and didn't quite find (to quote Bono) what they're looking for!
I'm thinking FDev may have started that ball rolling, possibly in a way you have not considered significant (hint: absence of info on patch 6).
Essentially if you think of all forms of interaction as lobbying you begin to see why people do things. The CMs have their vested interests - representing the commercial interests of the company that pays them to do so and the players in their various factions have their own interests that sometimes align and more often than not don't, even the mods have their line of interest. It's all politics when it's not just for fun banter.. and politics is like a sewer system, everyone wants it to work but it's dirty business and you don't want to really look to closely at what goes on.
Sorry, but as a native I can say that Graffel isn't a German word. What does it suppose to mean?
Now this is communication.
Just a shame such a good reply will get lost in the pages of this thread.
Full disclosure: I didn't watch the stream, either live or after, and I didn't vote up or down.
But what you may receive as pettiness, it could be the players' distilled frustration for the way they perceive a game they love and invest money and (mostly) time. They feel hurt and so they want to return the favour.
Maybe I read too much into their reaction, but it could be like this.
Absolutely.
But fundamentally, the question which the trust is about is not "when will FD tell us that a fix for X or work on feature Y is coming?" but "is the fix for X or feature Y here?"
People are asking for "better communication" when by and large actually they'd mostly be happy with "terrible communication" if the game was fixed. Zac or Sally could talk for hours on a live stream about how Frontier don't yet know how to fix the performance issues or when the fix would be, going into great detail about how "well, we thought it might be in the drawPixelSlowly() function, but we replaced that with drawPixelQuickly() and it didn't seem to help" ... and it would answer precisely no-one's actual question of "is this going to be fixed? when?" because they can't tell us information they don't actually know.
The problem isn't that Frontier aren't telling us enough, it's that they aren't telling us what we want to hear. And they can't do that - hopefully "they can't do that yet"! - so it really doesn't matter to me whether they say lots or not much, it'll get fixed in the same timescale either way.
Certainly seems more plausible than pettiness imo.