Big Elite Streamers Giving Up On Streaming Elite?

[rootsrat]

you are a moderator...you are here to moderate the forums and not take sides in arguments that are between community members.

Only partially correct. I am also a player and I am free to express my opinions and discuss just like any other forums member, sticking to the same rules as everyone else.

 

[humanevil]

Only partially correct. I am also a player and I am free to express my opinions and discuss just like any other forums member, sticking to the same rules as everyone else.

no im 100% correct you are also a player however that doesnt change anything, and going by the warnings ive had if i were to apply the same rules to you mods you would need to be collecting warnings etc.
what you mods are doing is hiding behind your title while also stirring the storm. its not professional but it is flaming and trolling with no risk of being slapped with the rules unlike the rest of us

 

[rootsrat]

no im 100% correct you are also a player however that doesnt change anything, and going by the warnings ive had if i were to apply the same rules to you mods you would need to be collecting warnings etc.
what you mods are doing is hiding behind your title while also stirring the storm. its not professional but it is flaming and trolling with no risk of being slapped with the rules unlike the rest of us

No, you were not correct in your other post.

However, we are subject to the same forum rules as everyone else. If you feel any of my (or any other mod's) post broke the rules, report it as per the usual process. The only difference is that it will be reviewed by a member of Frontier's Community Team, rather than another mod.

May I also remind that public discussion about moderation is not permitted at these forums, so let's drop the subject, as I have explained already how it works.

 

[CMDR Jayce MacLeod]

Giving up on Elite? No, not at all.

Branching out to other games, absolutely.

Smart move, to be honest. Keep your options open for more lucrative content, or at the very least, engaging amd compelling content.

 

[Phoenix_Dfire]

To be honest I don't see the appeal of that 'armstrong moment' at all. Call me a brute or simple minded I want actual gameplay to engage me. Staring at the sky and going 'ooo' to me is like having a poo and admiring my work in the pan.

It certainly depends on where you land. I've been landing on the new planets only (due to the fact that's where the biologicals are) and there are times where you look around and do go 'ooo, that's pretty'. (So I'm obviously not looking down the pan). I've not done much in the way of exploring planets before (in Horizon's I only landed to get mats, do Guardians/Thargoids or raid the occasional base) so I've not missing any difference between Horizons and Odyssey.

 

[Rubbernuke]

It certainly depends on where you land. I've been landing on the new planets only (due to the fact that's where the biologicals are) and there are times where you look around and do go 'ooo, that's pretty'. (So I'm obviously not looking down the pan). I've not done much in the way of exploring planets before (in Horizon's I only landed to get mats, do Guardians/Thargoids or raid the occasional base) so I've not missing any difference between Horizons and Odyssey.

For me its like when I went to Davs Hope, and the RNG popped in a hostile mining setup just on the slope across. I went 'ooo' but 'ooo' was really me going 'oooo what can I steal?'.

For set pieces I can forgive, like the crashed Thargoid scout is quite pretty. But obsessing over and over to me is distracting from stuff to do- FD have this lovely RNG POI bowl of Lucky Charms, I want them to shake that box and let more mingle. I know it can happen, I've had bugs on the surface and in space that tingle my berries but this just gets lost in the churn. Pretty new skies, bumpy stuff, great. Now put stuff to do on it please.

 

[rootsrat]

For me its like when I went to Davs Hope, and the RNG popped in a hostile mining setup just on the slope across. I went 'ooo' but 'ooo' was really me going 'oooo what can I steal?'.

For set pieces I can forgive, like the crashed Thargoid scout is quite pretty. But obsessing over and over to me is distracting from stuff to do- FD have this lovely RNG POI bowl of Lucky Charms, I want them to shake that box and let more mingle. I know it can happen, I've had bugs on the surface and in space that tingle my berries but this just gets lost in the churn. Pretty new skies, bumpy stuff, great. Now put stuff to do on it please.

We can admire the views why doing other stuff, tru that!

But I admit every now and then I like to stop, turn on external camera and go on a photo shoot.

 

[Rubbernuke]

We can admire the views why doing other stuff, tru that!

But I admit every now and then I like to stop, turn on external camera and go on a photo shoot.

Its like eclairs. They look amazing but when you bite in its all air.

Now I must go. The French police are about to expel me from France for saying that

 

[Deleted member 182079]

For me its like when I went to Davs Hope, and the RNG popped in a hostile mining setup just on the slope across. I went 'ooo' but 'ooo' was really me going 'oooo what can I steal?'.

For set pieces I can forgive, like the crashed Thargoid scout is quite pretty. But obsessing over and over to me is distracting from stuff to do- FD have this lovely RNG POI bowl of Lucky Charms, I want them to shake that box and let more mingle. I know it can happen, I've had bugs on the surface and in space that tingle my berries but this just gets lost in the churn. Pretty new skies, bumpy stuff, great. Now put stuff to do on it please.

During my ill-fated exploration mini-trip literally all of the POIs that spawned were Horizons ones - i.e. those that can only be interacted with in your SRV or ship, not on foot (unless you enjoy trying to shoot skimmers who dodge every other shot). Only added to the dreaded "but there's nothing to do!" feeling unfortunately.

 

[rootsrat]

Its like eclairs. They look amazing but when you bite in its all air.

Now I must go. The French police are about to expel me from France for saying that

Source: https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vRkX3DMvF4eFGqQ/giphy.gif

 

[Ian Skippy]

I did have a proper chuckle at one video titled "my SC Armstrong moment" or something along those lines - while I find the Elite implementation of that very underwhelming indeed, how many times can you perform that in SC - as in, how many planets are there currently? A dozen?

Stanton, the first SC (and so far only) system has four planets: Hurston, Crusader, ArcCorp and MicroTech.

 

[Darth Ender]

We can admire the views why doing other stuff, tru that!

But I admit every now and then I like to stop, turn on external camera and go on a photo shoot.

i'm pretty sure they have catered to you photo shoot content guys long enough.

99.99% of the galaxy is filled with just things you can take pictures of.

it would be game changing for any of that to actually become part of actual gameplay. You know, involving something more than fighting to stay awake watching loading screens or while in supercruise.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Awww, aren't you lovely?

My point is that they were completely absent from these forums for 7 years, only to reappear a couple of weeks ago to deride everything ED related, and preach the gospel of Chris.

Best ignore her, she is only here to plug her channel. Its all a bit shameless, but I guess thats part of the trade.

 

[Juniper]

This has nothing to do with FDEV, as I am not an employee. This is my personal opinion and nothing else.

And it sounds like you'd fit right in.

But may I say, having that 'volunteer moderator' tag on your "personal opinion account" puts the rest of us at a significant disadvantage. If anyone says anything you don't like or disagree with, you can remove or edit it... which hardly seems fair (note: not saying you do this, just that you have the power to and everyone can see that). You are "staff" as far as this forum is concerned... which means I'm out.

And may I add that cutting the other part of my messages presents it in a worse context than I originally wrote it.

Nice try though, nice try.

Purely for brevity and nothing else, there was really no intention to make your context worse than it is on my side.

Your comments (and the associated context) are there for all to see earlier in the thread.

 

[rootsrat]

i'm pretty sure they have catered to you photo shoot content guys long enough.

99.99% of the galaxy is filled with just things you can take pictures of.

it would be game changing for any of that to actually become part of actual gameplay. You know, involving something more than fighting to stay awake watching loading screens or while in supercruise.

ok.

 

[Sakashiro]

To be honest I don't see the appeal of that 'armstrong moment' at all. Call me a brute or simple minded I want actual gameplay to engage me. Staring at the sky and going 'ooo' to me is like having a poo and admiring my work in the pan.

That's because you're looking at it from an Elite perspective. If your ship had interiors, additional gameplay would emerge from it automatically. For example, foes could enter your ship and hide in it. There could be gunfights on your ship. There could be EVA missions where you have to leave one ship and enter another in zero G. None of these things are technically possible in Elite. And that's why Elite's "Armstrong moment" is such a joke.

You don't need to look at SC to see the benefits of ship interiors. There are other examples, e.g. Space Engineers. Being able to have an actual crew on a ship in multiplayer is fun. ED will never get there, because its underlying design ("You are the ship") makes that impossible.

 

[rootsrat]

But may I say, having that 'volunteer moderator' tag on your "personal opinion account" puts the rest of us at a significant disadvantage. If anyone says anything you don't like or disagree with, you can remove or edit it...

No, I cannot actually. We are not permitted to moderate threads we actively participate in - and we don't. It has to be a different moderator.

Unless it's for something not directly related to the discussion we're having AND it blatantly against the rules (i.e. zero tolerance policy stuff).

 

[Rubbernuke]

During my ill-fated exploration mini-trip literally all of the POIs that spawned were Horizons ones - i.e. those that can only be interacted with in your SRV or ship, not on foot (unless you enjoy trying to shoot skimmers who dodge every other shot). Only added to the dreaded "but there's nothing to do!" feeling unfortunately.

Ages ago I had a run of POIs mixing with each other. I had a CZ in an asteroid belt, one CZ 10Km from a station, I had surface POIs clump together. FD need to see that this is a good thing, even if it results in sometimes shonky outcomes because it makes for some really spectacular gaming.

Examples:

A refugee convoy ploughed through a live CZ and was utterly insane.

Seeing a battle through the mail slot of a station while the sun beamed through make me feel joy joy feelings.

Having mini ad hoc shanty towns of POIs clumped was cool. It even had a downed fighter on the outskirts, making it feel like something from Star Wars..

I fought in a CZ where a Majestic was parked next to some asteroids- Imp fighters milled about (and occasionally ran into them ) but it was epic- I was using that rock to shield against the cap ship while I fought.

To me these are 'Armstrong moments' where my eyes take it all in and revel in the unpredictability of it all.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Giving up on Elite? No, not at all.

Branching out to other games, absolutely.

Smart move, to be honest. Keep your options open for more lucrative content, or at the very least, engaging amd compelling content.

Of course. This is the Golden Age of space games and only a fool would limit himself to one game. ED, NMS, X4, Space Engineers, Rebel Galaxy: piles of absolutely great games, all of them frequently on sale. All of them release more or less when planned, all deal with launch issues in a number of months, all without cynical P2W, all with an interesting and sizeable galaxy. Its a great time to be alive if you like these types of games.

 

[Ian Skippy]

No, I cannot actually. We are not permitted to moderate threads we actively participate in - and we don't. It has to be a different moderator.

Some people just love to pre-emptively self-victimize themselves.