Big Elite Streamers Giving Up On Streaming Elite?
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Some people just love to pre-emptively self-victimize themselves.
who are the players who are just sitting in their ship doing nothing such that events such as this wouldn't become 100x more annoying than pirate interdictions? Almost all such opportunities would end up happening while the player was interacting with things going on outside of their ship. leaving them to have to ignore one or the other - which can easily mean guaranteed death.
That's an idea that would be DOA. Ship interiors in general is a 5th col attack on elite. Some kind of poisoned carrot that players with blinders on attach to because they think it will bring them one step closer to being able to pretend they're actually a space ship captain but in reality it's a lot of work for something nobody will use and quickly become ignored and irrelevant to gameplay. As wasteful as CQC was.
how about we push to have fdev focus on fixing the stuff already in the game that all of the gameplay revolves around and depends on that we already know isn't that great nor fun? Like PVE. The limited archetypes of npcs. The limited impact of bgs variety. The way we communicate with npcs. The lack of persistent npcs (at least the lack of memory in persistent npcs). Adding in missing mission/npc interaction types (escort, diplomacy, etc). Environmental hazards of space itself. Additional gameplay mechanics on top of the basic grind methods so everything you do in the game isn't the same exact grind loop.
stuff that will measurably improve the game for everyone and not be delegated in the best case scenario as eye candy and at worst, something that ends up getting patched to eye candy because someone thought that if players loved interdictions, they're going to love stow-away murder hobos.
Ages ago I had a run of POIs mixing with each other. I had a CZ in an asteroid belt, one CZ 10Km from a station, I had surface POIs clump together. FD need to see that this is a good thing, even if it results in sometimes shonky outcomes because it makes for some really spectacular gaming.
Examples:
A refugee convoy ploughed through a live CZ and was utterly insane.
Seeing a battle through the mail slot of a station while the sun beamed through make me feel joy joy feelings.
Having mini ad hoc shanty towns of POIs clumped was cool. It even had a downed fighter on the outskirts, making it feel like something from Star Wars..
I fought in a CZ where a Majestic was parked next to some asteroids- Imp fighters milled about (and occasionally ran into them
To me these are 'Armstrong moments' where my eyes take it all in and revel in the unpredictability of it all.
Yeah... it's kind of weird they don't leverage this stuff.
Yes, it would take a tiny fragment of additional coding (those fighters hitting the rock, maybe (maybe not?) - the station might need to chill a tad with it's fine, at least, for the allied side? - a few things like that) but it would make many things far more varied and interesting without needing a huge multi year investment of dev time.
It's still ahead on the "Armstrong Moment™" count against EDO.
In my opinion, the "Armstrong Moment" that was highlighted in one of the dev videos is one of the farthest things from reality. It naturally became a trademark of the troubled release.
It also reminds me to keep a low expectation. What Frontier thinks is an awesome (Armstrong) moment, ended up being pretty disappointing.
Have you ever read Neil Armstrong's interview about "The Armstrong Moment"?
I guess that is exactly what Frontier did do
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I just think people read way too much into it and blew it out of proportion, all it was is a throwaway PR comment. I agree the blue circle and fade-to-black is barely MVP and could've been much more immersive with (imo) not that much additional effort, but compared to the various other, more serious issues the game has (technically and design wise) it's not that high on my grumble list tbh, certainly not at this stage.
We just dont experience the same reality that they do.
In their reality it was awesome. The game does work properly. The game loops are exciting. The players wanted CQC. Powerplay doesn't exist.
Dont be reality biased.
Literally the entire trailer on steam right now is about the Armstrong moment. Literally. From start to the "punchline" of the Armstrong moment.
I love my Cobra 4!
You just ruined breakfast...
100% agreed with you. There are many more important things to fix.
... and this is why it became a symbol of the release.
They are called "gaffes", and when things go wrong, are the ones quoted in the histories...I'm convinced that if they hadn't brought in that "Armstrong moment" nonsense, some would have actually had that notion the first time they walked on a surface. I for one certainly had it - and I even always gave a toss about space legs! But then I'm also pretty good at sensing and consistently ignoring marketing language, so any expectation in my case was literally non-existent.
Somehow the usual marketing rules seem to be suspended in ED: Any exaggeration, no matter how small, immediately falls on the company's feet. How it should be in an ideal world...
thing is im sure when someone else comes to mod this topic because he cant im sure they will apply the rules fairlyAnd it sounds like you'd fit right in.
But may I say, having that 'volunteer moderator' tag on your "personal opinion account" puts the rest of us at a significant disadvantage. If anyone says anything you don't like or disagree with, you can remove or edit it... which hardly seems fair (note: not saying you do this, just that you have the power to and everyone can see that). You are "staff" as far as this forum is concerned... which means I'm out.
Purely for brevity and nothing else, there was really no intention to make your context worse than it is on my side.
Your comments (and the associated context) are there for all to see earlier in the thread.
Nothing to mod in it, so far, but give it time.
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Ha, really. Nice.
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Dare I mention the Gnosis?Ages ago I had a run of POIs mixing with each other. I had a CZ in an asteroid belt, one CZ 10Km from a station, I had surface POIs clump together. FD need to see that this is a good thing, even if it results in sometimes shonky outcomes because it makes for some really spectacular gaming.
Examples:
A refugee convoy ploughed through a live CZ and was utterly insane.
Seeing a battle through the mail slot of a station while the sun beamed through make me feel joy joy feelings.
Having mini ad hoc shanty towns of POIs clumped was cool. It even had a downed fighter on the outskirts, making it feel like something from Star Wars..
I fought in a CZ where a Majestic was parked next to some asteroids- Imp fighters milled about (and occasionally ran into them
To me these are 'Armstrong moments' where my eyes take it all in and revel in the unpredictability of it all.
A lot of people whinged about it, but I thought that was great (because I came prepared for all eventualities - spending time deciding on and building my ship... an AX/exploration Krait, took a bit longer to get there but was able to push back at least) - flower ships attacking the mega ship there and then; getting shot at as soon as you lifted off, pure adrenaline.
I genuinely thought wow this is a sign of things to come (AX combat around burning stations, while others rescue passengers others could fight the Goids, in the same instance! Amazeballs!!).
But nope, it's as if the above happened purely by accident and wasn't meant to be.
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Black Pudding and scrambled eggs?
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