Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

sovapid

sovapid
Agony_Aunt said:
Think this is the main point. Nobody knows how easy/hard credits will be to come by on release.

Will they favour the whales by making credits hard or make them easy to favour the newbies, or somewhere in between?
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The amount of credits you can earn has steadily gone up.

When I first started playing, the best mission was shutting of Comm Arrays for 500 aUec.

Now the best is kill 3 three ship bounty hunting missions for just shy of 100k aUec.

But yeah, never know what they will do when/if it goes live.

And "favour the whales"??? What does that mean??? Everyone who pledged money to Star Citizen did it to make sure the project succeeds, not for the trivial side benefit of the ship that you get as a side bonus. 🤣
 

Mole HD

Mole HD
Agony_Aunt said:
So, people who believe what CIG say are stupid?

Oh @LittleAnt :D
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Back in 2014 I was an Xbox gamer with a half decent laptop...What Chris Roberts implied or didn't never entered into the equation of me going off and building a desktop rig to play games past, present and future on...as I'm sure it didn't for many thousands of others.

You're reading too much into folks upgrading PC's... with your pointed emphasis being on Star Citizen rather than any other game folks would feel the urge to cough up a few bucks for upgrades. We all know Mrs Roberts' little boy tells porkies, there's no dispute of that bare and simple fact...but to suggest Star Citizen or Chris Roberts somehow cheated some poor gamers into buying a rig specifically for SC then those poor unfortunates turning around and somehow regretting that upgrade because Sqn 42 and SC didn't appear is slightly...tenuous...to say the least :D

I'm all for a heavy dose of snake-oil salesman bashing, but that's stretching even my intense dislike of the bloke a bit too far.
 

StuartGT

StuartGT
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Stinja

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[VR] Mad Mike said:
(I don't want to burnout before it's launched so planning to wait until no more wipes of gear) ... Out of curiosity (and with the understanding balancing may change) how long does it take to get the biggest ships currently in the game without being gifted cash , ships or any other help.
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As new new player that didnt get any help, cash, and mostly did solo bounty hunting to earn aUEC (non-optimally):

I started 9th July, had 1.3mil by 20th July (11 days) around 2mil by 23rd July (14 days). That's raw days not hours played, and i cant recall how many or total hours (unless there's a stat somewhere), but rough "playing a few hours a day average" kinda timeframe.
Also being new i didnt know what i was doing for some hours, and inefficient just looking at stuff, or trying box and fps missions (taking 45mins to do a cave for 30,000 because getting lost etc). Those last 3 days for 700,000 aUEC so 250K a night was being more focused on bounty hunting. Only dabbling since and have another 800K with lots of sightseeing.
I'm sure you can hit better earnings / hour in a group sharing ERTs or whatever.

I'm at the point where i'd need quite a lot of time to get a bigger ship, say 5mil for a Mercury Star Runner or Constellation Phoenix which are approximately Asp size in Elite terms. A 600i is Python size and 10mil. But compared to 3300/3301 Elite earnings feel much faster.
Unless there's some sort of exploit, i'd not want to sink too much time either just to be wiped, but getting back to a cutlass shouldnt be too bad.


re: system specs. My laptop is diagnosed as below, which feels roughly right. 30fps in heavy performance areas. 60fps (capped via sys_Maxfps = 60 in console box) in less intensive performance areas. With a general high-40s to 60 but i dont keep the counter turned on, and a lot of the time it is 60 dipping down to maybe 55fps. Fine for a casul console scrub like myself.

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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Mole HD said:
Back in 2014 I was an Xbox gamer with a half decent laptop...What Chris Roberts implied or didn't never entered into the equation of me going off and building a desktop rig to play games past, present and future on...as I'm sure it didn't for many thousands of others.

You're reading too much into folks upgrading PC's... with your pointed emphasis being on Star Citizen rather than any other game folks would feel the urge to cough up a few bucks for upgrades. We all know Mrs Roberts' little boy tells porkies, there's no dispute of that bare and simple fact...but to suggest Star Citizen or Chris Roberts somehow cheated some poor gamers into buying a rig specifically for SC then those poor unfortunates turning around and somehow regretting that upgrade because Sqn 42 and SC didn't appear is slightly...tenuous...to say the least :D

I'm all for a heavy dose of snake-oil salesman bashing, but that's stretching even my intense dislike of the bloke a bit too far.
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That's you. There were literally people who bought new PCs circa 2014 (and in 2015, and in 2016, etc) specifically for SC.
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Agony_Aunt said:
That's you. There were literally people who bought new PCs circa 2014 (and in 2015, and in 2016, etc) specifically for SC.
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And there were people who bought expensive VR rigs for E:D which are seemingly on the way out now in ED:O (I have a RTX 3090 FGS and it really is no longer a great experience (in ship as well as on ground))
Let's face it what game Devs say is about as reliable as what a car sales person says about a car

But that isn't a Star citizen issue, David Braben, Chris Roberts, Peter Moleneux.all cut from the same cloth. (For the record David Braben was a childhood hero of mine thanks to Elite and instill really like the bloke now, but that does not mean you can rely on anything he says. I still love his talks tho)

Chris Roberts showed us sand worms and told us of 128 player flawless experiences And claimed S42 was playable start to end 5 years ago.

David Braben told us we would have a robust economy, big game hunting, and that planet surfaces.would be more than just height maps.... And would be constructed without repeating textures.
 
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kilvenny

kilvenny
Agony_Aunt said:
That's you. There were literally people who bought new PCs circa 2014 (and in 2015, and in 2016, etc) specifically for SC.
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I bought a new rig in late 2013 specially for ED. I did the same with a laptop a few years later for EDH so I could game while playing nurse. Both times the spec was based on ED plus some headroom. If EDO had been full VR and needed either more oomph then I would be raiding the piggy bank. If I did it for ED I cannot believe no one did it for SC
 

Mole HD

Mole HD
McGlashan said:
Yeah it's awesome when a company can just keep "refactoring" forever, with no requirement to actually deliver something that both looks good and performs well on available hardware.
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It performs well enough on my hardware for the most part, same for thousands of others with nothing more than average PC specs 🤷‍♂️
 

Mole HD

Mole HD
kilvenny said:
I bought a new rig in late 2013 specially for ED. I did the same with a laptop a few years later for EDH so I could game while playing nurse. Both times the spec was based on ED plus some headroom. If EDO had been full VR and needed either more oomph then I would be raiding the piggy bank. If I did it for ED I cannot believe no one did it for SC
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Exactly, many did just that with the anticipation of a game that worked perfectly well on the spec suggested at that time...most that didn't already have the recommended specs would have bought what was required plus some headroom. I'm not disputing that...but that wasn't the point Agony was making.
 
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