New Fusion Game?

[Blackhint]

Hey Guys,

first off, i would like to tell you how much i love your Management Games. Been playing them till today, and keeping myself busy by Creating more and more impressive Builds for the Workshop, and i will for all the Time to come

So for the Reason im posting...while playing Planet Zoo it came to me, that you Guys could make two great Games even greater...by combining them! Jeah i mean, how awsome would that be, if you would create a Game where you Build a Theme Park, and at the same Time you can put Animals in there? One of the best Examples i found so far is the Bush Gardens Park in Florida. Building Coasters and Stuff as well as Animal Habitats. Im pretty sure a lot of Folks would support you in that Endavour, me Myself would gladly be an Supporter and let Money over your Heads just for such an Experience

So, what do you think Folks? Does that sound like something that would possibly be doable?
How great would the Support of the Community be?

Keep healthy everyone, and feel free to visit my Harmolife Parks on Steam

 

[Britches]

Refused.

 

[LN]

So, what do you think Folks? Does that sound like something that would possibly be doable?
How great would the Support of the Community be?

I think it would be great. I don't know if it's technically doable. The support would most likely be great.

It's not happening though, as Frontier already debunked this happening in the short term future.

 

[HeatherG]

It's not possible to join 2 different games into 1.
They have different mechanics, so, it's not something they are able to do

 

[Thylaco]

You can do both when making a game, Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 had a zoo animal expansion, the problem is that if you do both you can't really go as deep into one (specialising your game is more efficient).

As to conjoining the Planet titles, I can only see it being a nightmare code wise, taking so long you'd be better off making a new game (though I don't think either option would be profitable now the games exist).

 

[Leaf Productions]

Even just by plopping in some flat rides and a junior coaster, we’d see a huge improvement and it’d bring more people into Planet Coaster by introducing minor mechanics of coaster building to a new audience. A ton of modern zoos are opting into include a lot more rides for guest sakes and I’d love to see this happen. Check out ZooTampa known for its amazing rescue work, AS WELL as a pretty damn good ride selection.

Refused.

Cheer up lmao let us dream

 

[ElectricMonk]

Cheer up lmao let us dream

I’d quite like a carousel and a chairlift but can pass on coasters (fairly sure it wouldn’t be great for the animals’ welfare TBH)… you dream of more rides, I’ll dream of more animals (in this zoo game)

 

[Leaf Productions]

I’d quite like a carousel and a chairlift but can pass on coasters (fairly sure it wouldn’t be great for the animals’ welfare TBH)… you dream of more rides, I’ll dream of more animals (in this zoo game)

I mean, sure, I'd agree with you on the carousel and the chairlift. They're both essentials at any zoo.

But coasters are as well. There's probably more zoo's with coasters than zoo's that hold Proboscis Monkeys - or even Formosan Black Bears or Proboscis Monkeys for that matter Planet Zoo is a game aimed for realism, after all!

But those are just a few. Of course, I wouldn't really jump at the gun for a larger mine train style like Everest is, or even a launched coaster like Cheetah Hunt, but moreso what ZooTampa has in terms of a small, compact Junior Coaster. Relatively low noise level and still provides a ton of fun for guests.

I don't necessarily understand the complete disregard to including more features from the game. They don't take away from your animals, they just add more things to the game.

We can ask for both and exist in harmony lol, I don't necessarily understand the gatekeeping.

And again, not to mention how good this could be sales-wise. Because of the building mechanics alone I've recently gotten into Planet Coaster. Frontier could implement a ride or two from PC into PZ and get more people who haven't thought of buying PC to buy PC to experience more. Less assets to develop for and more sales to come out of it.

Plus the coaster devs aren't even on the same team as animal devs. Environmental and Character developers are in their own realms, so I think it's silly to think that more coasters/rides would take away from your animals

 

[LN]

I don't necessarily understand the complete disregard to including more features from the game. They don't take away from your animals, they just add more things to the game.

We can ask for both and exist in harmony lol, I don't necessarily understand the gatekeeping.

Simply said, your coasters and rides need to be designed, coded etc. Which takes away valuable time from the devs that can be better spent on new animals IMO, or other games if they are not appointed to PZ.
For that regard I agree with @ElectricMonk.

If you want more rides, why don't you mod them in?

 

[Leaf Productions]

Simply said, your coasters and rides need to be designed, coded etc. Which takes away valuable time from the devs that can be better spent on new animals IMO.
For that regard I agree with @ElectricMonk.

If you want more rides, why don't you mod them in?

Because I don't get paid to do so lol. I already have technically but I don't have the resources that frontier has to get those systems to work right.

And again, different teams. Character Developers =/= Environmental Developers.

Not to mention that the baseline code for coasters and tracked rides of all types are already in Planet Zoo. Options for chainlift, brakes, launched track pieces, loops, etc. can already be seen in the game files. The Lego bricks are there, Frontier can just assemble them in an afternoon.

So instead of another scenery pack, which it seems the animal pack defenders hate, wouldn't it make more sense to advocate for more interactive and innovative systems than another wallset? It's only logical

Again, don't necessarily understand the gatekeeping, but ok

 

[LN]

Frontier already said they ain't doing it.
And I'm personally glad they dont throw rides in it too much..

And probably the designers for rides are already working on the follow up for PC.

And I'm not gatekeeping. Only pointing out what I find important for a Zoo game.

 

[Jaggid Edje]

Again, don't necessarily understand the gatekeeping, but ok

Players of a game naturally will advocate against feature additions which they feel detract from a game.

Development time is limited, time spent doing something a player does not want means time NOT spent doing something that they do want. Pretty common sense.

Not to mention that the baseline code for coasters and tracked rides of all types are already in Planet Zoo. Options for chainlift, brakes, launched track pieces, loops, etc. can already be seen in the game files.

You are grossly underestimating the amount of work they'd need to do.

 

[tigris115]

I'd say, at the very least, give us a carousel. Many zoos have carousels with zoo animals instead of horses

 

[Swjosdotschka]

I'd love a themed caroussel but otzer than that don't advocate for a fusion. It would probably end in a halfbaked hybrid where coaster and animal nerds are not happy.

Plus, I can probably easily giive at least 5 examples of important things Planet Zoo as a zoo simulation is missing, that are not coasters.

 

[GGG2021]

Leaf - I did ask in another topic discussion - but are you still tinkering with a train Mod - or another transport option?

Even just by plopping in some flat rides and a junior coaster, we’d see a huge improvement and it’d bring more people into Planet Coaster by introducing minor mechanics of coaster building to a new audience. A ton of modern zoos are opting into include a lot more rides for guest sakes and I’d love to see this happen. Check out ZooTampa known for its amazing rescue work, AS WELL as a pretty damn good ride selection.

Would be great and make the game even more epic.

 

[markun]

I could be diplomatic here but I’ll just be honest. I hate zoos that contain theme park elements. I find them vulgar and crass and risk relegating animals to sideshow attractions.

Forms of transport that offer views of animals are just about ok and I can accept a carousel but I’m afraid that’s where I draw the line.

I completely understand that not everyone agrees with me but first and foremost zoos should be about education, conservation and entertainment through inspiring visitors with awe at how amazing, diverse and exciting the natural world is. With an emphasis on dignity and entering a world where it is a privilege to be, an oasis, a garden, an elevated space from the mundane outside world.

So no roller coasters in Planet Zoo thanks. And as @Swjosdotschka points out, there’s a lot that should take priority over them.

 

[Swjosdotschka]

@markun I also dislike too much theme park elements in zoos for the exact same reason as you. Plus, the zoos I know that have coasters usually lack a lot with animal welfare.

 

[ElectricMonk]

I don't necessarily understand the gatekeeping.

I fail to see how other people expressing their opinions /preferences is 'gatekeeping'.

 

[tigris115]

We know Planet Coaster 2 will be a thing so what if that games comes with all the animals as an expansion pack?

 

[Swjosdotschka]

We know Planet Coaster 2 will be a thing so what if that games comes with all the animals as an expansion pack?

It simply won't and I am beting on that. Such an expansion pack would easily have the price of PZ base game and Frontier refuses to even make slightly bigger and higher price packs for their existing games.

Plus, again, the conversation and welfare aspect Frontier wants to deliver with PZ would be totally lost in a game, where you could, in theory, build a coaster over a lion enclosure.

At max I could see a petting zoo and even there I have my doubts. But that would be an equivalent to a carousel in PZ.