the freefly event in star citizen made me appreciate elite again

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disclaimer: i haven't even played odyssey yet. i don't have experiences first hand, but i've watched myriads of videos and streams and can safely say that it's quite bad.

star citizen has just launched a freefly event. i was waiting for an opportunity to check how my new hardware would perform. i upgraded to a ryzen 5 5600x, 32gb of ram and a beefy corsair mp600pro m2 ssd. my gpu is still my old gtx 1660ti which is still very decent. i only play in 1080p anyways. so it's perfectly fine. i can run all my games at 75fps. shadow of the tomb raider actually being the most demanding game in my entire library.

oh boy, but star citizen? i don't know what i expected. the loading times are absurd. the game "runs"?! below 30fps most of the time. the hardware is being utilized though which is good i guess. anyways, while the game looks fantastic, with this performance it's not playable.

and then there's the little fact that there is not much of a game to talk about. as a completely new player, you have no freaking idea about anything. good luck calling your ship and fly into space. the most basic of tasks require you to either ask in chat or read a guide/watch a tutorial video. what you're confronted with is pretty much just empty.

it made me appreciate elite. it teaches you the basic stuff. it has gameplay mechanics and systems that make sense, that are coherent within the game. it's like, you know, an actual game. yea, we all know about the issues which will get better over time. i expect big leaps with the console launch. that's when i will probably buy odyssey. but star citizen? it's a glorified tech demo that runs awfully on high end hardware. and no one seems to care that this game is in development for ten freaking years. ten years and we get this? looking at this, i do appreciate elite a whole lot more and i actually would like to get back into it.
 
disclaimer: i haven't even played odyssey yet. i don't have experiences first hand, but i've watched myriads of videos and streams and can safely say that it's quite bad.

star citizen has just launched a freefly event. i was waiting for an opportunity to check how my new hardware would perform. i upgraded to a ryzen 5 5600x, 32gb of ram and a beefy corsair mp600pro m2 ssd. my gpu is still my old gtx 1660ti which is still very decent. i only play in 1080p anyways. so it's perfectly fine. i can run all my games at 75fps. shadow of the tomb raider actually being the most demanding game in my entire library.

oh boy, but star citizen? i don't know what i expected. the loading times are absurd. the game "runs"?! below 30fps most of the time. the hardware is being utilized though which is good i guess. anyways, while the game looks fantastic, with this performance it's not playable.

and then there's the little fact that there is not much of a game to talk about. as a completely new player, you have no freaking idea about anything. good luck calling your ship and fly into space. the most basic of tasks require you to either ask in chat or read a guide/watch a tutorial video. what you're confronted with is pretty much just empty.

it made me appreciate elite. it teaches you the basic stuff. it has gameplay mechanics and systems that make sense, that are coherent within the game. it's like, you know, an actual game. yea, we all know about the issues which will get better over time. i expect big leaps with the console launch. that's when i will probably buy odyssey. but star citizen? it's a glorified tech demo that runs awfully on high end hardware. and no one seems to care that this game is in development for ten freaking years. ten years and we get this? looking at this, i do appreciate elite a whole lot more and i actually would like to get back into it.
Odyssey is actually pretty good in regards to the gameplay they've added. The only real bad issues is the performance, which if you use AMDs FFX, it will be better.
 
Well, no, that means you can't safely say that.

actually i can judge pretty well how i like the design of the game's systems and certain decisions like teleporting in and out of your ship. the glowing circle in front of your ship alone is something i consider really, really bad. i don't need to play the game to know that. the performance doesn't need to be experienced first hand either. i know that i consider sub 60fps as barely playable. even still, i really have to like the game to look past that. i'm not sure i can do that at all, now that i have a pc that should handle that stuff really easily. i don't have a super 144hz gaming monitor. i play at 1080p@60fps. below that is not really acceptable.
 
actually i can judge pretty well how i like the design of the game's systems and certain decisions like teleporting in and out of your ship. the glowing circle in front of your ship alone is something i consider really, really bad. i don't need to play the game to know that. the performance doesn't need to be experienced first hand either. i know that i consider sub 60fps as barely playable. even still, i really have to like the game to look past that. i'm not sure i can do that at all, now that i have a pc that should handle that stuff really easily. i don't have a super 144hz gaming monitor. i play at 1080p@60fps. below that is not really acceptable.
Did Yamiks tell you to say that too? Seriously - stop letting streamers tell you how to feel about things.
 
Not going to argue about this or that but I do find it odd how quite a few post in the EDO forum when the topic isn't about EDO (except to mention they think EDO isn't good after not actually playing it). Just an observation, rather than trying to add anything useful (acknowledge this post isn't useful). As you were.
 
Not going to argue about this or that but I do find it odd how quite a few post in the EDO forum when the topic isn't about EDO (except to mention they think EDO isn't good after not actually playing it). Just an observation, rather than trying to add anything useful (acknowledge this post isn't useful). As you were.

Doooooom is in style these days, and everyone thinks their opinion is important enough to share.
 
In my opinion, the OP is a bit opinionated for someone who hasn't played the game.

i mean, do you need to play the game to know that the performance is so bad it's barely even playable? i know what framerate i consider playable and odyssey can be below that, even on very powerful hardware. the teleportation from and to the ship? do you need to play the game to know that this is bad? the rest is debatable. but i didn't comment on that. there's more things i consider bad and you don't need to play the game to know that. like the weapon/shield interactions, bullet spongey'ness and so on.

and to clarify one thing, all i said is that after playing star citizen, i do appreciate elite a whole lot more. that applies to the base game as well, not just odyssey which i haven't played yet. i have a lot more appreciation for elite in general after experiencing first hand what the star citizen is.
 
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actually i used to watch brother sabbatius who's always very positive about the game. no, i build my opinion on what i see, not what someone tells me.
That is wrong opinion, because that blue circle is part of gameplay, that blue circle + srv allows you to build "mobile fortress" as cozaks did in 17xx years - same principle, and easy do ground fights solo.
But streamers won't show that for u :D
 
actually i used to watch brother sabbatius who's always very positive about the game. no, i build my opinion on what i see, not what someone tells me.
I'm somewhat torn here. I routinely give my opinion on SC without ever playing it, so I can't really complain at someone giving their opinion on EDO without having played it.

It's just that you are wrong, see. :sneaky:
 
BUT ... what I will say is your view is a little strange, in that you are reminded of the positives of Elite having tried SC, but don't want to try the additional content that EDO adds to it. Not detracts from, but adds to. As someone who likes Elite, I don't really understand deliberately avoiding something that those who do play it actually enjoy, when in effect we are all in the same 'liking elite' clique.

shrugs
 
OP....I'd definitely consider upgrading that GPU. I have similar specs to you processor wise but with a RTX 3700 8GB and I easily get 50 to 60 FPS in most areas in SC.

Also one the things I liked best about SC (apart from the amazing planet tech) is the global chat function. Makes it really easy to get help in game. I know there's local chat in ED but depending on where you are your more likely than not to be the only one in the system.

Overall I've been really happy since trying SC first a few months ago. There are bugs and I've had a few crashes but the latest iteration of 3.14 seems to be quite stable on the whole. I've had fun in ED but I'm struggling now to go back to planets with no weather. Just my 2 cents.
 
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actually i can judge pretty well how i like the design of the game's systems and certain decisions like teleporting in and out of your ship. the glowing circle in front of your ship alone is something i consider really, really bad. i don't need to play the game to know that. the performance doesn't need to be experienced first hand either. i know that i consider sub 60fps as barely playable. even still, i really have to like the game to look past that. i'm not sure i can do that at all, now that i have a pc that should handle that stuff really easily. i don't have a super 144hz gaming monitor. i play at 1080p@60fps. below that is not really acceptable.
At 1080 the ship cockpit looks like garbage in odyssey. Dunno why because the on foot fps hud looks good, but the ship HUD text is barely readable.
 
At 1080 the ship cockpit looks like garbage in odyssey. Dunno why because the on foot fps hud looks good, but the ship HUD text is barely readable.
Then u do scale different then 1.0x
Make this parameter greater then 0.5 default in config file
<FFXRCASIntensity>0.725000</FFXRCASIntensity>
I see OK now on 1080 with this

Config/Frontier Developments/Elite Dangerous/Options/Graphics/Custom.4.0.fxcfg
 
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