Elite Dangerous Vs Star Citizen from the point of an Elite Dangerous Player

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I wonder how she would have felt about it if she had had to do the whole new player experience and try to earn everything from scratch herself though, instead of just getting to jump into the fun group stuff fully kitted out?
Yeah, although I do like my Aurora and Sidewinder. I don't really mind how long it takes to move through the ship levels. I think the reason for that is, I get very fond of each ship I have or have owned. It's not a chore to fly either a sidewinder or aurora.

But the best thing is to build your own ship and fly it, that is unbeatable, for me anyway.
 
If Squadron 42 ever goes live then I think there will be a lot more in the progression side of things and should make the whole SC experience much more varied. I wouldn't spend my money in advance hoping it will show though especially considering how long people have been waiting for it so far.
I mean that’s how they got my $45 I don’t know how many yea4s ago now…Its the only reason I wanted it…here we are years later and it’s still nowhere in sight. It’s just turned into a feature creep forever Aplha. Give me my SQ42 and I don’t care if you spend another decade n the black hole of development it’s turned into…
 
SC, a game with such a monstrous purchases (c`mno its long passed the entire "founding" nonsense) will NEVER imo have a healthy in game progress/monetization. Free weekend or not, I got out of this once and forever, maybe I will poke its corpse one day with a long broom stick.
 
SC, a game with such a monstrous purchases (c`mno its long passed the entire "founding" nonsense) will NEVER imo have a healthy in game progress/monetization. Free weekend or not, I got out of this once and forever, maybe I will poke its corpse one day with a long broom stick.
I am kind of waiting for the FTC to come down on them. If it were regular investors through normal investment channels he would be in jail at this point, or removed from his own company at the very least. You don't raise 400 million and get to break every promise you made and squander the money without one government or another stepping in sooner or later to protect the consumers/pledgers. He will probably single handedly ruin kick starter campaigns when governments start putting regulations on them.
 
I am trying SC right now during the free fly and my experience is quite horrible. I am fed up of ED and wanted to move to another space game but SC has the worst UI I have seen and the flying is quite bad. I am disapointed and left for the time being without a good sandbox space game. One full day in the game and couldnt finish eve on mission. not even box delivery. Always bugs like box went though the ship, or my ship was stuck on the planed landing pad inable to take off, and many others.

I tried the last free fly too. I'm glad I did. Found out late and only had the last day to give it a go. The worst part was cloning my Win7 SSD to install Win10 on. Did that while at work. The installation and setup took about 2 hours after getting home. By 9:00 PM, I'd learned the controls, flew from Area18 to Orison on Crusader (crashed up my ship on the way), woke up in HAB, rode the tram around the city, flew to land on the windy deserts of Hurston, Neil Armstronged my way out, shot my pistol into the storm and went to bed. It was admittedly a pretty awesome three hours to say the least and I am usually extremely critical of SC.

That critique was all from the outside looking in though. Until now. After experiencing just this small sliver of the game, I can say that if CIG somehow manages to pull this off, it will be the space game to beat for a very very long time to come. In fact, I can't imagine any current developer even thinking of investing in a project of this crazy caliber and level of detail. Everything is modeled and unique. I read that the in-game LCD panels have pixels. PIXELS! Can someone to confirm this?

Anyway, alpha-buggy-demo-this-that, experiencing what I did, I can now kind of comprehend and appreciate what they have been doing for those 8 long years. Just sayin'.
 
I tried the last free fly too. I'm glad I did. Found out late and only had the last day to give it a go. The worst part was cloning my Win7 SSD to install Win10 on. Did that while at work. The installation and setup took about 2 hours after getting home. By 9:00 PM, I'd learned the controls, flew from Area18 to Orison on Crusader (crashed up my ship on the way), woke up in HAB, rode the tram around the city, flew to land on the windy deserts of Hurston, Neil Armstronged my way out, shot my pistol into the storm and went to bed. It was admittedly a pretty awesome three hours to say the least and I am usually extremely critical of SC.

That critique was all from the outside looking in though. Until now. After experiencing just this small sliver of the game, I can say that if CIG somehow manages to pull this off, it will be the space game to beat for a very very long time to come. In fact, I can't imagine any current developer even thinking of investing in a project of this crazy caliber and level of detail. Everything is modeled and unique. I read that the in-game LCD panels have pixels. PIXELS! Can someone to confirm this?

Anyway, alpha-buggy-demo-this-that, experiencing what I did, I can now kind of comprehend and appreciate what they have been doing for those 8 long years. Just sayin'.
I've been playing SC for nearly 6 years, tested the 3.14 patch all the way through the PTU phases until it went live... and still I didn't know about the large LCD display at Orison having pixels until I watched one of Katie Byrne's videos. Having played (and suffered) for so long in Star Citizen, the minutae and attention to detail just kinda washes by me these days, it's all just become background details...after seeing that in Katie's video then going out to Orison to see it for myself, it certainly produced a headshaking moment :D

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I've been playing SC for nearly 6 years, tested the 3.14 patch all the way through the PTU phases until it went live... and still I didn't know about the large LCD display at Orison having pixels until I watched one of Katie Byrne's videos. Having played (and suffered) for so long in Star Citizen, the minutae and attention to detail just kinda washes by me these days, it's all just become background details...after seeing that in Katie's video then going out to Orison to see it for myself, it certainly produced a headshaking moment :D

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It's like RDR2's horse's balls. Nobody notices or cares until it is pointed out and the sole purpose is to exploit a heuristic in our brains:"wow, imagine how great the game must be if they are able to spene their devtime on such details!"

Everybody who hears that detail about 'pixels' but knows little else will assume all basic stuff like 'saving your game' works, that performance is great so these frills can be added and the gameplay is rounded and polished.

In RDR2 the balls are excusable as the actual game is excellent. CP2077's genital sliders are more iffy given the lacking depth in the game, and SC is just... yeah.

Star Citizen is basically just endless horse balls with not much else. :/
 
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Yea, her being sort of an Elite celebrity (and hot chick), she had droves of Citizens knocking on her bay doors, bearing all kinds of gifts of in-game cash and playmate requests. Which of course she accepted with glee. I can understand that, whatever floats their boat. Doesn't bother me. But as someone mentioned it earlier, it could be a curse in disguise because she did miss out on all the "work my way up from the dust" new player experience. When a DB wipe comes around the corner, and she finds herself sitting in her Avenger, she will realize the error of her ways. Or maybe not. Anyway I enjoy her new content, she's enjoying SC and I'm learning a bunch things along the way, so I'm cool with it.
 
Yea, her being sort of an Elite celebrity (and hot chick), she had droves of Citizens knocking on her bay doors, bearing all kinds of gifts of in-game cash and playmate requests. Which of course she accepted with glee. I can understand that, whatever floats their boat. Doesn't bother me. But as someone mentioned it earlier, it could be a curse in disguise because she did miss out on all the "work my way up from the dust" new player experience. When a DB wipe comes around the corner, and she finds herself sitting in her Avenger, she will realize the error of her ways. Or maybe not. Anyway I enjoy her new content, she's enjoying SC and I'm learning a bunch things along the way, so I'm cool with it.

Ah, i get what you mean.

I guess on a DB wipe people will once again shower her with stuff (if that is indeed what happened). Its the typical online gaming thing anyway, not limited it SC.

My criticism of Katie is its about time she dropped the "Elite player" part. She hasn't made an Elite video in 2 months. She's now gone over to SC and she's now just milking it with that "Elite player" part. She's now a SC player, and maybe she is/will also be a ED player again, but its no longer new for her. Its not just her testing it out, she's fully into it.
 
Ah, i get what you mean.

I guess on a DB wipe people will once again shower her with stuff (if that is indeed what happened). Its the typical online gaming thing anyway, not limited it SC.

My criticism of Katie is its about time she dropped the "Elite player" part. She hasn't made an Elite video in 2 months. She's now gone over to SC and she's now just milking it with that "Elite player" part. She's now a SC player, and maybe she is/will also be a ED player again, but its no longer new for her. Its not just her testing it out, she's fully into it.
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We shouldn't forget the real life implications either. Reading her videos comment section, this move on her part also attracted a buttload of SC player praise, subscriptions and patrons. So the real fake money is rolling in as well. I'm not surprised at all if she is milking every drop. You go girl!!

I guess..
 
Ah, i get what you mean.

I guess on a DB wipe people will once again shower her with stuff (if that is indeed what happened). Its the typical online gaming thing anyway, not limited it SC.

My criticism of Katie is its about time she dropped the "Elite player" part. She hasn't made an Elite video in 2 months. She's now gone over to SC and she's now just milking it with that "Elite player" part. She's now a SC player, and maybe she is/will also be a ED player again, but its no longer new for her. Its not just her testing it out, she's fully into it.
A few of her ships have been actually gifted by other backers, plus she's certainly bought the Cutty black, perhaps a couple more...they're not all purchased in game ships so not effected by a persistence db wipe :)
 
A few of her ships have been actually gifted by other backers, plus she's certainly bought the Cutty black, perhaps a couple more...they're not all purchased in game ships so not effected by a persistence db wipe :)
Which turns right back to her enjoyment of the whole thing. She's having a blast playing and making videos, the money is also rolling in.
I can imagine her investing some of it back in just to ensure she can keep doing what she's doing, at the level she is doing it. Wish I could
do the same instead of wasting away at a 9-5 all day. 😐
 
Why is ED better than SC?
Simple answer. VR

Even with ED:O's limited VR, it's got VR and that makes it better
 
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