What species are left to be added?
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Which video is this? Frontier has consistently said more than 75.
As I said, Tropical, dried grass Savanna does exist in southern Texas, it's not a famous biome, but it's there (Cuba is dominated by it, so that's a potential Challenge mode locale if it's a thing).
It's a guarantee we'll have access to redwoods again, though thinking about it I'm not sure about the Temperate Rainforest biome being a different terrain set [Being covered by Temperate or Rainforest seems possible] (Chile would be the most likely Challenge mode locale if this biome's a thing).
Amargasaurus may specifically dislike Indominus rex because it's the only theropod that can pose a serious threat to it. Armarga may likely be able to more easily fend off the other theropods with its neck spines and tail, but Indominus is more bloodthirsty and determined and therefore more likely to injure it. As for Struthi, since it gets eaten by practically every theropod in the game, making it dislike specific theropods is pointless, so logically that means "Dr. Wu hybrids" = Stegoceratops and Ankylodocus, which Struthi likely dislikes because it can sense how strange and unnatural they are.
Looking at which dinos have been confirmed, we can safely say they'll all be back. None of the core canon dinosaurs are going anywhere, the Operation Genesis dinosaurs are staying because they're big fan favorites, and the return of Huayangosaurus and Chasmosaurus (two dinosaurs that had few fans) pretty much confirms that everyone is here either in the base game or as DLC.
Uhh... no? That thing is tiny; barely larger than a real-life Nigersaurus (and from the looks of things smaller than the JWE Nigersaurus)... so what if it had neck spikes? They may look cool, but there are plenty of areas on an Amargasaurus to bite... things like Acrocanthosaurus, Giganotosaurus and Tyrannosaurus were twice as tall, they'd just bite it in the back and break its spine with ease... and if small things like Velociraptor are no longer scared of large armored animals like Stegosaurus--as implied by that one video showing a pack of Velociraptor hunting a Stegosaurus--then there's no reason small predators would fear it either...
Meanwhile, everything else you said is just an assumption...
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Maybe an instant kill instead of a fight, but yeah, not much of it makes too much sense at the moment (it is a purposefully made demo, so they may have simply added the terms to convey the fact they're a thing, rather than actually being final game accurate).
Given it's in the Territory section, it really should mainly be stuff of the same or similar diet (they are the logical competitors).
As to any logic to the couplings, Allosaurus and Ceratosaurus would make a lot of sense (it's thought Ceratosaurus had an unusual diet, so wouldn't compete so strongly), rather than just Carnotaurus, but Carno is related at least.
You seem to be really hoping that the Dr. Wu hybrids don't come back. What about them upsets you?
Where did I imply that? I have no problems with the Dr. Wu hybrids or hybrids in general... in fact, I'm one of the bigger proponents of the concept; the whole genetic hybrids thing works well with the themes of reckless and arrogant abuse of powers beyond our understanding. My problem is people who assume one thing when the evidence gives indication to the contrary... in this case, evidence that suggests "Dr. Wu Hybrids" could easily mean nothing more than Indominus and Indoraptor, yet some people insist it absolutely must mean all the hybrids are returning...
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What else does it mean, then? Struthiomimus doesn't want to be around ANY carnivore, so listing two of them as dislikes would be redundant and dumb. And we've seen that herbivores do have dislikes regarding other herbivores, for example Triceratops dislikes stegosaurs and Stegosaurus dislikes ceratopsids. Therefore, Struthiomimus disliking Wu hybrids logically indicates that Stegoceratops and Ankylodocus are back.
The same can be said for Amargasaurus, but that's where the Indominus Rex leak comes from... as already said repeatedly, there's no logic in Amargasaurus disliking Indominus specifically, so why must Struthiomimus disliking Dr. Wu Hybrids follow logic? There is precedents that says it doesn't have to; that Struthiomimus with a logical dislike of Indominus and Indoraptor would have these specific animals listed under dislikes, despite it being obvious. And if this is the case--which we've established it can be--Dr. Wu Hybrids can easily mean Indominus and Indoraptor and nothing else... I don't know how to make it clearer.
I just realized something. If the Archelon was to come, how would it be fed. Sea turtles are omnivorous from crustacean, seaweed, sponges to fish, but leatherbacks mostly eat jellyfish and also a sea turtle's diet changes when they age. So that has me wondering about what would an aquatic plant feeder would look like since I don't really see a fish feeder for the Archelon.
That's a fair point. I hope you are right, that the hybrids aren't returning, as that would allow more space in the 75+ species roster for real dinosaur species. But I think the most likely explanation is that advanced above, that Amargasaurus is invulnerable to most large therapods except the Indominus, and that Struthiomimus dislikes living with the Dr. Wu hybrids Stegoceratops and Ankylodocus.
I've always considered it more likely than not that every dinosaur from JWE1 would return. They already have the models. I don't think it would be good business practice to scrap species and spend development time and resources replacing them with something else. The fact that we've seen species after species from the first game returning, even DLC species, with only a few new dinosaur species (Ceolophysis, Amargasaurus, Qianzhusaurus) confirms for me that this is most likely the case. Which I should say, I am completely fine with. I would rather have more dinosaur species to choose from than fewer.
The original purpose of the thread was meant to be- assuming every dinosaur species is returning, what dinosaurs are left to add? Obviously, if only some dinosaur species are coming back, then the field is wide open as far as what species could be added. But if we've only got a few spots left in the roster, then that narrows the possibilities down a lot. We mentioned a medium-sized pliosaur being added. I'd say the chance of that is close to 100%. But what else? Or is that probably it?
One other thing I would point out: it appears that the categories of dinosaurs from the first game are returning (sauropods, hadrosaurs, iguanodonts, stegosaurs, ankylosaurs, ceratopsians, ornithomimosaurs, pachycephalosaurs, small theropd, large theropod) so if there are any new dinosaur species, it would probably belong to one of those.
Close to a 0% chance that Archelon is in the game at launch. But a future DLC including Archelon could also include a jellyfish feeder or aquatic plants as well. That would be pretty cool. The fact that JWE 2 won't feature just dinosaurs opens up all kinds of possibilities.
Fine, you win, Indominus and Indoraptor are the only hybrids returning, end of discussion.
Archelon's beak was adapted for both crushing shells and shearing flesh, so they can easily make it eat using the fish feeder. Dimorphodon fed on small reptiles and mammals in real life, but Frontier made it a fish-eater in the game.
Oh for crying out loud, that's not the point I'm trying to make and you know it! The point--because it seems to be going over your head--is that this so-called concrete proof proves nothing regarding the Dr. Wu hybrids; not that they're returning, not that they're cut. Not like this matters anyways... we'll get what we get and we'll know what that is soon enough... and no, whoever "wins" this it doesn't matter.
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I know a great many things, but I'm going to leave it up to you guys to see all the dinosaurs and reptiles. But maybe keep an eye on the Database on our website, and see what pops up?
You tease you. When will we see pack hunting and pack defense?
I’m at least happy I got my Amargasaurus, but the rest of the roster is an uninspired mess to me.
Yes, things like Quetzalcoatlus and Oviraptor are probably added in the movie-update, but other than that, o boy.
No Tapejara, Elasmosaurus, Liopleurodon, Archelon...
Making the flying and swimming department rather strange and unfinished for me.
No Therizinosaurus, Deinoncheirus, Gigantoraptor, Crylophosaurus, dinos many fans asked for.
Then, the small dino-department is really underwhelming, no Minmi, Protoceratops, Psittacosaurus, Hypsilophodon, Heterodontosaurus, Lesothosaurus, haven’t seen Troodon back yet. I know America is addicted to big things (ugh ugh, Godzilla, Rex, Cthullu) but give the small some love please!
Also all of those hybrids coming back is an insane choice, most of those were on most peoples least-liked lists. If something should be limited to expansion it would be the ugly hybrids, not things like Mamenchisaurus, Kentrosaurus or Styracosaurus.
Yes, things like Quetzalcoatlus and Oviraptor are probably added in the movie-update, but other than that, o boy.
No Tapejara, Elasmosaurus, Liopleurodon, Archelon...
Making the flying and swimming department rather strange and unfinished for me.
No Therizinosaurus, Deinoncheirus, Gigantoraptor, Crylophosaurus, dinos many fans asked for.
Then, the small dino-department is really underwhelming, no Minmi, Protoceratops, Psittacosaurus, Hypsilophodon, Heterodontosaurus, Lesothosaurus, haven’t seen Troodon back yet. I know America is addicted to big things (ugh ugh, Godzilla, Rex, Cthullu) but give the small some love please!
Also all of those hybrids coming back is an insane choice, most of those were on most peoples least-liked lists. If something should be limited to expansion it would be the ugly hybrids, not things like Mamenchisaurus, Kentrosaurus or Styracosaurus.