CPU Hyperthreading support?

Morbad

Morbad
CMDR ZerØ said:
Honestly if there was absolutely no performance gain in Odyssey
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I suspect there was, but going from total crap to almost total crap may well not be a blatantly obvious improvement.

Northpin said:
that RX570 is slightly better than the minimum recommended for EDO (GTX780), while his i5-3470 was definitely under the minimum recommended cpu.
Now with that card and the i7. OP is arguably at minimum specs or slightly above. Very slightly.
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Frontier's specs don't have much rhyme or reason to them.

I'd have expected some modest improvement, but depending on settings the game is likely too GPU limited and VRAM capacity constrained for a CPU upgrade to matter.
 

CMDR ZerØ

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InDigital said:
Ultra graphics at 1440p
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From what I recall (never had an AMD GPU from that generation), that card's not super well suited for 1440p in most cases. It might be worth giving 1080p a try

Morbad said:
I suspect there was, but going from total crap to almost total crap may well not be a blatantly obvious improvement.
Frontier's specs don't have much rhyme or reason to them.

I'd have expected some modest improvement, but depending on settings the game is likely too GPU limited and VRAM capacity constrained for a CPU upgrade to matter.
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Not sure I'd call the 3770 total crap. It's an old CPU, but the unlocked version was basically the best gaming CPU available at the time. I agree that Frontier's specs are completely disconnected from reality though.
 

InDigital

InDigital
Checked in FPS monitor. Settlement situation.
20% CPU usage in dense area.
While GPU usage at 100% while looking on the ground!
How we can even talk about any optimisation there. There are not even minimal super alfa pre alfa beta alfa prior to alfa test stage optimisation. :D
 

InDigital

InDigital
CMDR ZerØ said:
From what I recall (never had an AMD GPU from that generation), that card's not super well suited for 1440p in most cases. It might be worth giving 1080p a try


Not sure I'd call the 3770 total crap. It's an old CPU, but the unlocked version was basically the best gaming CPU available at the time. I agree that Frontier's specs are completely disconnected from reality though.
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I am plauing WatchDogs Legion at 40FPS at nearly 4K resolution (1800p) on ultra settings. How is that it is not suited for that? :D
 

babelfisch

babelfisch
InDigital said:
Checked in FPS monitor. Settlement situation.
20% CPU usage in dense area.
While GPU usage at 100% while looking on the ground!
How we can even talk about any optimisation there. There are not even minimal super alfa pre alfa beta alfa prior to alfa test stage optimisation. :D
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If anything it shows that your GPU is hopelessly outdated. 🤷‍♂️

It doesn't even meet the minimum specs...
 

InDigital

InDigital
[MEOW] babelfisch said:
If anything it shows that your GPU is hopelessly outdated. 🤷‍♂️

It doesn't even meet the minimum specs...
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Who everyone saying GPU is outdated if this is only related to Odyssey?
Any other game runs on 1440p minimum, 1800p and 4K in many cases on Ultra Settings.
Any game! It just depend on you want 30 or 60 FPS. Just it.

I seen people playing on RTX 2070 with stutters this game.
I don't have this on any other game even on my patato.
 

CMDR ZerØ

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[MEOW] babelfisch said:
If anything it shows that your GPU is hopelessly outdated. 🤷‍♂️

It doesn't even meet the minimum specs...
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I wouldn't call a 4 year old card "hopelessly" outdated. It's old, yes, but this prevalent attitude in PC gaming that only the absolute bleeding edge hardware is decent is incredibly stupid.

Also GPU usage shooting up like that in weird spots is common in Odyssey. It happens to my 2080S.
 

Riverside

Riverside
My son's PC has a 3770, 16Gb of PC1600 DDR3, a sata SSD and a GTX1080 & it's a great gaming PC. Really stable (103% overclock on the mainboard), runs cool & quiet & frankly feels more stable & smooth than my 3 year newer 7700/1080ti. Tried the 1080ti in my sons PC a while back & there was enough overhead in the rest of the computer to make good use of the extra power of my GPU.

Plenty of life in it, neither it nor my 7700 are windows 11 compliant so when it does eventually get replaced it will be by much newer hardware so IMO fitting (one of) the fastest socket 1155 CPUs & keeping as long as you can before buying something more modern seems like a sensible option.

Throw more GPU at it & it might push the rest of the system hard enough to see a benefit from having the i7 over an i5.

And no, I wouldn't use EDO as an indicative benchmark, it's performance is terrible.
 
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CMDR ZerØ

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Riverside said:
My son's PC has a 3770, 16Gb of PC1600 DDR3, a sata SSD and a GTX1080 & it's a great gaming PC. Really stable (103% overclock on the mainboard), runs cool & quiet & frankly feels more stable & smooth than my 3 year newer 7700/1080ti. Tried the 1080ti in my sons PC a while back & there was enough overhead in the rest of the computer to make good use of the extra power of my GPU.

Plenty of life in it, neither it nor my 7700 are windows 11 compliant so when it does eventually get replaced it will be by much newer hardware so IMO fitting (one of) the fastest socket 1155 CPUs & keeping as long as you can before buying something more modern seems like a sensible option.

Throw more GPU at it & it might push the rest of the system hard enough to see a benefit from having the i7 over an i5.

And no, I wouldn't use EDO as an indicative benchmark, it's performance is terrible.
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You actually can install Win11 on "unsupported" hardware, you just have to download the ISO and disable the hardware check in the registry.
 

Morbad

Morbad
CMDR ZerØ said:
Not sure I'd call the 3770 total crap. It's an old CPU, but the unlocked version was basically the best gaming CPU available at the time. I agree that Frontier's specs are completely disconnected from reality though.
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I didn't say the CPU was crap. I said the performance of this game was likely still crap after the upgrade.

He's almost completely GPU limited.

CMDR ZerØ said:
I wouldn't call a 4 year old card "hopelessly" outdated.
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It's not hopelessly outdated, but it is evidently hopelessly slow for the settings being attempted.

A 4GiB card is going to have issues at any settings in this game, but even if VRAM capacity wasn't an issue an RX 570 would still have occasionaly issues running 1080p medium in EDO.
 

babelfisch

babelfisch
CMDR ZerØ said:
I wouldn't call a 4 year old card "hopelessly" outdated. It's old, yes, but this prevalent attitude in PC gaming that only the absolute bleeding edge hardware is decent is incredibly stupid.

Also GPU usage shooting up like that in weird spots is common in Odyssey. It happens to my 2080S.
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IIRC the card is even slower than my old GTX 970.
 

Globusdiablo

Globusdiablo
InDigital said:
Checked in FPS monitor. Settlement situation.
20% CPU usage in dense area.
While GPU usage at 100% while looking on the ground!
How we can even talk about any optimisation there. There are not even minimal super alfa pre alfa beta alfa prior to alfa test stage optimisation. :D
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Odyssey is a technical mess. Any hardware improvement you make at bottom tier level will as you have seen for yourself leave no visible in-game effect. I'm glad that you are seeing improvements in other games though. :)
 
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JetsonRING

JetsonRING
InDigital said:
Is Odyssey supporting Hyperthreading technology in CPU?
Well i have i5-3470 and i am going to change CPU to i7-3770.
Will i benefit from that?
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To really decrease loading times, get an SSD if you do not already have one. Up your RAM to a MINIMUM of 16 GB, preferably 32 GB.
 

babelfisch

babelfisch
CMDR ZerØ said:
Ok, so it's marginally slower for a much better price. I'm still not sure what your point is. A friend of mine runs a 970, and it is still a perfectly usable card for 1080p gaming.

Stop being so elitist over people using cheaper hardware.
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I am simply pointing out that you can't expect miracles from changing an i5 to an i7, especially not if you are running at minimum specs.

PS
By the way, even without the GPU as the bottleneck, gaming performance between i5 and i7 isn't that different IIRC.
 
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CMDR ZerØ

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[MEOW] babelfisch said:
PS
By the way, even without the GPU as the bottleneck, gaming performance between i5 and i7 isn't that different IIRC.
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This is true, but I believe that Windows will still benefit from the extra threads (given that the i5 is only 4c/4t), which would carry some performance gains over to gaming. I doubt you'd see any tangible benefits on newer i5/i7s though.

In any case, I think this thread has pretty much been derailed at this point, OP has already got the answer to their initial question.
 
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