Drew Wagar's Thoughts

[Winterwalker]

Well, i didn't really want to dive into that, but its a bit controversial.

I don't think it really equates either. That was water under the bridge before the game went beyond alpha, whereas even if interiors were / are definitely for definite, on the roadmap and Bruce' whiteboard, you'd still have to go through Odyssey first to get there. (In fact it would have been 100% nuts to try to do both at the same time anyway)

 

[Cohen the Worrior]

They also refunded those unable to play the game online.

Did they really? Do you have proof?
Or did they promise to refund, then took a time out?

 

[CMDR M Kozak]

Maybe, have you asked them? I got my Odyssey refunded.
The one I bought for my alt, I'm still stuck at 2fps on my main because of LEP.

Tell me more about that refund. I was told it was policy not to refund.

 

[Vandaahl]

Did they really? Do you have proof?
Or did they promise to refund, then took a time out?

Well, proof doesn't seem to be a pre-requisite around these parts... but I can remember the crater it left, me not being affected, how others were and how some got their money back. The board where it was posted is gone whoever, so make whatever you want of it. I'm not here to convince anyone

 

[Vandaahl]

Tell me more about that refund. I was told it was policy not to refund.

I asked and got my purchase refunded. It was a pretty recent purchase I made at the beginning of september, so that might be a factor.

 

[Winterwalker]

Tell me more about that refund. I was told it was policy not to refund.

They only refunded those who never connected, so they took the word "unable" very literally

So unable .. not necessarily "unwilling".

Then again, there is a whole mode called SOLO that IS still there, no matter how many BGS or powerplayers wish it wasn't.

So there is that.

 

[Rat Catcher]

Has there been any official update on this?

Ship Interiors

Another topic we know players keen for more information on is around ship interiors, and we wanted to clarify our current position on this.

While Odyssey will see players explore a wide range of on and off world locations including station interiors, ship interiors will not be included at launch.

We understand that the bond between Commander and starship is incredibly strong and know this will disappointing news for some. However, we believe it is right to invest our development time in locations and features which offer the most meaningful experience and gameplay for all players.

 

[LeoBartlet]

Did they really? Do you have proof?
Or did they promise to refund, then took a time out?

Do you suppose the people who were asking for refunds would've went quietly into the good night had Frontier reneged on a refund promise?

 

[Vandaahl]

Has there been any official update on this?

Yes, according to @Juniper this will never happen.

 

[robbyp]

I wish Drew well, had a nice conversation with him on a few occasions in game in the past. I'm not sure that him deciding to leave the game deserves 26 pages of posts though (and I know, i'm adding to it ;-) ).

 

[Agony_Aunt]

So that was £750

As I said, a rounding error.

From a cold hearted business perspective of course.

 

[Cohen the Worrior]

Well, proof doesn't seem to be a pre-requisite around these parts...

Well you seem to require proof, only to deny it when it is right in front of you.

but I can remember the crater it left, me not being affected, how others were and how some got their money back. The board where it was posted is gone whoever, so make whatever you want of it.

So no proof then?

I'm not here to convince anyone

Obviously.

 

[Winterwalker]

I wish Drew well, had a nice conversation with him on a few occasions in game in the past. I'm not sure that him deciding to leave the game deserves 26 pages of posts though (and I know, i'm adding to it ;-) ).

Yeah what's his problem anyway?

Seems like a nice guy but the post I saw was a little backward thinking in my view
(meaning sentimental for the old days rather than anything else, and fwiw I thought code/covid 'illiterate' for want of better word)

 

[LeoBartlet]

I wish Drew well, had a nice conversation with him on a few occasions in game in the past. I'm not sure that him deciding to leave the game deserves 26 pages of posts though (and I know, i'm adding to it ;-) ).

In fairness, it's only 17 pages as the first few pages were when he left the second or third time.

 

[Rat Catcher]

I wish Drew well, had a nice conversation with him on a few occasions in game in the past. I'm not sure that him deciding to leave the game deserves 26 pages of posts though (and I know, i'm adding to it ;-) ).

Drew's current 'farewell' had a few pages dedicated to it... The remainder is the usual in-fighting between folk who play the game and those who no longer do

 

[Vandaahl]

Well you seem to require proof, only to deny it when it is right in front of you.

Cant recall I denied any proof, in the past 24 hours.

 

[LeoBartlet]

Drew's current 'farewell' had a few pages dedicated to it... The remainder is the usual in-fighting between folk who play the game and those who no longer do

Come on Rat I love you like an illegitimate brother but it's not as binary as that.

Some still play the game but are mad as hell about it. Some still play but are constantly let down but separation anxiety compels them to stay.

 

[Rat Catcher]

Come on Rat I love you like an illegitimate brother but it's not as binary as that.

Some still play the game but are mad as hell about it. Some still play but are constantly let down but separation anxiety compels them to stay.

True enough... I should have added a few extra words for clarity... It is simply that clarity is not a prerequisite in making accusations or claims, so my post was reflecting the current trend of containing sufficient information to be inflammatory and accusing, but lacking in the content required to be entirely accurate.

 

[Juniper]

As I said, a rounding error.

From a cold hearted business perspective of course.

On its own, given the overall sums involved, yes. It's a drop in the ocean.

But multiply that by 20 to 30 backers pledging the same amount or much (much) higher each, and it becomes something more than a 'rounding error'.

Remember you could pledge up to £5000 in the Kickstarter.

 

[Winterwalker]

Some still play the game but are mad as hell about it. Some still play but are constantly let down but separation anxiety compels them to stay.

Not forgetting those who are having lots of fun.