For those of you who have been hanging around for a while, I haven't forgotten this video.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVnk3yT2Lgo
How close are we to actually exprience was promised in this video, Frontier?
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To be honest, its mostly what was in the first game just with the graphics taking a hit and lining some things up nicely for a video. The cross-species herding might be the only thing unconfirmed in JWE2, but the suggested pack hunting we know exists and herbivores do graze off the vegetation instead of feeders now. Its remarkable how little actually happens in that trailer, the Rex and Trike facing off was even that typical circling animation they always perform. Sleeping animations were added into JWE1 via patch, so I would say we have pretty much reached a point where we not only realized it, but the gameplay is deeper now with JWE2.
This is the trailer that made me super hyped for JWE. I wish we could have that version of the game or JWE would have been more like that. I liked the Rex model from that video and I liked the nice fog effect and the lighting. Though the rex model wasn't the most accurate in that trailer either it was still better than the JWE Rex model. I think JWE suffered a lot of downgrades due to consoles. I think that version of JWE seen in that video was probably from a time when they were planning to make it PC exclusive. Again this is just my own theory. But Frontier or Universal decided to make the game a console release as well so they had to scale a lot of things back.
Anyway with JWE2 being released in just a week I think we will be getting as close to that version of JWE as we can get with the sequel and I would even say more. JWE2 is going to be much better than what is seen in that trailer.
Anyway with JWE2 being released in just a week I think we will be getting as close to that version of JWE as we can get with the sequel and I would even say more. JWE2 is going to be much better than what is seen in that trailer.
Hah, this would be nice!
Love the optimism of your post BTW.
Agree, everything is so pretty.
No, this was a deliberate way to mislead gamers - not unlike cyberpunk 2077, but on a smaller scale. And if you look at the video it says "in-game footage". So you know, that's exactly what we were supposed to get.Nothing was Promised this is simple Marketing. Almost every Developer/Publishers first Trailer has nothing to do with what you get.
Is it really necessary to start this thread for the hundredth time, especially considering how moot the point is? I think anyone whose been around long enough to remember, also remembers every other thread on this well enough that starting it up again is in poor taste. Edit: And why now? Nobody has the game yet?
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Nothing was Promised this is simple Marketing. Almost every Developer/Publishers first Trailer has nothing to do with what you get.
Going to disagree with you there. While it doesn't promise anything per say, marketing materials are intended to impart to potential consumers the content of the product or service being offered. You can quickly run into false advertising issues if the marketing is not representative of the experience. You'll notice this is why movies using clips from the full length film and video games use bits and pieces of the game for promotional purposes. That trailer for JWE wasn't egregious, much of what was in it made it to the final game even the sleeping albeit that was deployed well after release.
Its a careful balance and while people have argued ad infinitum about that trailer, its a grey area, just wanted to make it clear the expectation and legal obligation inherent in being careful of what promotional materials are put out to the public.
I try to be optimistic, but I was just being honest with you. That stuff already exists in JWE either at launch or via post-launch patches. Pack Hunting, however, is only in JWE2 and who knows about how herding behaves now, there hasn't been a lot on that subject.
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FYI, "sleeping" animations in and of themselves were actually at launch. They just weren't used as "Sleeping" behavior. It's a memetic misconception. They were instead, used solely as "Dying" animations, in which they would only wake up when healed by rangers. Dinos only do this when suffering at very low, slowly depleating, health due to starvation, disease, or dehydration. The "Sleeping" behavior system, that was added in subsequent patches, just reuses the script animations already implemented for the existing "Dying" behavior system, into the newly implemented one.
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Technically, yes, however, it might have been dishonest if I called that "sleeping" per say as the trailer clearly makes it appear as something the dinosaurs willingly do and presumably aren't just keeling over. This explanation does add the missing context though.
This while true but we all know its not that in the Gaming Industry. Did any developer evef face issues ? No. All of them are doing this. Ubisoft,EA,Activision and so on. I mean how van you say that they sre doing this since decades without any case of any problems. The biggest problem is a few people wont buy it at best. But they make millions to billions you dont matter. Its a business.
But we didn’t yet nothing happened. Because its been like this since ages. If they would you give these graphics. I just remember crysis in 2007 i was 13 years old almost nobody could play it, crytek almost went bankrupt. Thats what would happen. Most people are on Ps 4/xbox ones/ gtx 1050-1060 thats where the money comes snd it has to run on those from not from the 0.02% with a 3090.
Just think logically.You're making no sense at all, it's so funny you ask others to "think logically". Besides, I wasn't talking about the graphics AT ALL.But we didn’t yet nothing happened. Because its been like this since ages. If they would you give these graphics. I just remember crysis in 2007 i was 13 years old almost nobody could play it, crytek almost went bankrupt. Thats what would happen. Most people are on Ps 4/xbox ones/ gtx 1050-1060 thats where the money comes snd it has to run on those from not from the 0.02% with a 3090.
Whoever said there were no issues with false advertising? These companies have gotten really good over the years about being subtle and ambiguous about it especially these multi-national corporations who advertise in many countries. Something that might be acceptable in one country's legal system might not apply in another's, so its not something you can slap with a blanket statement. However, now we are just arguing intent and that is difficult to impossible to prove which is why its so hard to legally punish a company as it could be an honest mistake or the intent was there, but for whatever reason they failed to deliver.
Frontier isn't even remotely on the level of say EA, Activision, or Ubisoft though that is another discussion for another time. I also don't know what sort of conclusion you are trying to make.
There likely isn't one. Just baseless trolling with atrocious syntax and grammar.
Most likely, but I don't want to presume in case it is legitimate, I might just be too hopeful though.
Optimism is your strongest suit!
The irony is that I am a pessimist...
Still, working to avoid infusing more negativity, I am seeing way too much of it lately with JWE2 mostly Reddit, but its Reddit.