BTW, the (so far confirmed) SM leaks were also talking about how dynamic smooching is not happening at all.
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From the CIG replies to questions about server meshing.
Q: How do you plan on managing a large ship, say a Javelin? Would that be it's own dedicated resource with ships around it?
A: With Dynamic Server Meshing, it’s possible that large ships such as a Javelin could have their own dedicated server assigned to run the authoritative simulation for that ship and everything on it.
Looooooollll. Basically hedging their bets but also not answering the question as well. In short, maybe, just maybe, you could fully crew a Javelin in an instance, but don't bet on seeing any other ships around you.
Another funny moment. So basically, if you are in a shard, and your "homestead" comes under attack from people in the same shard, just log out! It will then become invulnerable.
Chris needs more vitamins to think about it.
So... why are land claims even needed?
What are the chances of your particular homestead even coming under attack when you are logged in and in the same shard as the attackers.
Let's assume that it indeed happens, and you stay logged in. Now you've got to travel to your homestead to defend it. But its way across the 'verse from where you are. How long to get there from where you are? 5 mins? 10 mins? 20 mins? 1 hour??? Doesn't really matter, a competent attacker will destroy your base in seconds with their Hercules bomber that CIG sold them anyway.
So many dreams.txt shattered. I'm sure the faithful will start dreamcrafting what they will be able to do with this news... or just ignore it.
Q: How do you plan on managing a large ship, say a Javelin? Would that be it's own dedicated resource with ships around it?
A: With Dynamic Server Meshing, it’s possible that large ships such as a Javelin could have their own dedicated server assigned to run the authoritative simulation for that ship and everything on it.
Looooooollll. Basically hedging their bets but also not answering the question as well. In short, maybe, just maybe, you could fully crew a Javelin in an instance, but don't bet on seeing any other ships around you.
Another funny moment. So basically, if you are in a shard, and your "homestead" comes under attack from people in the same shard, just log out! It will then become invulnerable.
Chris needs more vitamins to think about it.
So... why are land claims even needed?
What are the chances of your particular homestead even coming under attack when you are logged in and in the same shard as the attackers.
Let's assume that it indeed happens, and you stay logged in. Now you've got to travel to your homestead to defend it. But its way across the 'verse from where you are. How long to get there from where you are? 5 mins? 10 mins? 20 mins? 1 hour??? Doesn't really matter, a competent attacker will destroy your base in seconds with their Hercules bomber that CIG sold them anyway.
So many dreams.txt shattered. I'm sure the faithful will start dreamcrafting what they will be able to do with this news... or just ignore it.
So much to pick out from the Q&A, but this is pure lol
So to avoid instancing at full locations, they’re capping shards to the max population of a single server…
Which means the 50 player limit stays for now. And maybe sneaks up to 100 over time, as they suggest in another answer. Due to servers handling smaller regions, no doubt.
Of course 'dynamic meshing' will come down the line and magicmagicmagic…
But for the foreseeable few years (and let’s be honest, forever…), forget having numerous player-owned capital ships and support ships etc duking it out….
On the plus side, you’d think desync and server tick and such should improve, due to the lighter server load. And they maintain more seamlessness this way (even if the server handovers still suggest there will be pauses/hitching at that point etc). But goodbye '1000s of players in one area', goodbye 80 crew $3000 Javelin being anything more than a novelty paperweight, at best…
Could be fine news for making an eventual actual game. But Lord is it ongoing bad news on the egregious lies-to-backers front…
So to avoid instancing at full locations, they’re capping shards to the max population of a single server…
Which means the 50 player limit stays for now. And maybe sneaks up to 100 over time, as they suggest in another answer. Due to servers handling smaller regions, no doubt.
Of course 'dynamic meshing' will come down the line and magicmagicmagic…
But for the foreseeable few years (and let’s be honest, forever…), forget having numerous player-owned capital ships and support ships etc duking it out….
On the plus side, you’d think desync and server tick and such should improve, due to the lighter server load. And they maintain more seamlessness this way (even if the server handovers still suggest there will be pauses/hitching at that point etc). But goodbye '1000s of players in one area', goodbye 80 crew $3000 Javelin being anything more than a novelty paperweight, at best…
Could be fine news for making an eventual actual game. But Lord is it ongoing bad news on the egregious lies-to-backers front…
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Hey stop messing with my fun you!
I just made some predictions
. (Imperfect seams between servers, Javelins to be useless vanity barges at best, etc).Let us all keep making predictions
Wow that leak was insanely accurate. Holy smokes.
Oh, i missed that. So, its not just that a server will be a 50 or 100 player cap, the whole damn shard will be?
That's hilarious!
We need more vodka fuelled leaks!
I predict 3.15 to PU today
Source: https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1458476247022030853?s=20
... looking forward to seeing how it goes, as all the posts I've seen recently were 'this is not ready' ...
Source: https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1458476247022030853?s=20
... looking forward to seeing how it goes, as all the posts I've seen recently were 'this is not ready' ...
I was about to joke this image will be the new twitch category image.I predict 3.15 to PU today
Source: https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1458476247022030853?s=20
... looking forward to seeing how it goes, as all the posts I've seen recently were 'this is not ready' ...
It already is lol.
sounds like a situation where all the players would be concentrated in a relatively small number of locations, which is exactly what they need to avoid
You called it vape
(PS I would like to thank the tech powering this single-sharded super-thread. Made finding that much easier…)
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I think ive heard something like that before.......
You called it vape
(PS I would like to thank the tech powering this single-sharded super-thread. Made finding that much easier…)
uh oh, that cant be good.
Those folks doing the youtubes are going to go where the views go. SC'ers may enjoy Yamiks quite a bit, but to comment on snow, when he knows full well that ED wont have snowy environments until you can err land on planets is just acting dumb. That's like saying he's leaving ED because he cant EVA, when that wont happen for a while from now. Both CIG and FDev will end up with similar things in the games, when done, the roadmap to get there is just different. For CIG, it's paying off at the moment, while people are happily crashing to desktop. But what about when ED has snow and getting in and out of their chairs? Oh, and dare I say again, in more than one system? Im guessing thing will become more apparent when SC has a patch to include their second star system, but you can only get to it from the start screen. No jumping...the SC folks will start justifying how much better it is, not being able to jump between systems, and how ridiculous it is to even have that. Some games are more equal than others, is their ongoing theme.Recent Yamiks vid about if Odyssey was worth the comeback had an interesting comment besides the usual Armstrong moment fart joke (that never gets).
It's really well put together and I couldn't have said it better.
This stuff is the stuff of dreams. And part of the scam that I dont like. Here's someone jumping SC's gun, and imagining more than what CIG have even said, while living in a reality where CIG hasn't and, as far as Im concerned, cant make happen. He's also probably imagining he can go to a nightclub and dance better than he can in reality too, so amazing! Hey CR, how about some dance moves in SC? Stuff not on the roadmap yet?
Remember when SC backers could say "Ah, but ED doesn't have space legs and ship interiors"?
Now its "Ah, but ED doesn't have ship interiors"
In another few years we might be down to "Ah, but ED doesn't have pepperoni"
As time goes by, it'll be more and more "well, ED has that too...also, in more than one system."
Yeah, a few weeks ago, I mentioned how DB is a big SC backer. Indeed, Odyssey's release, to me, seems like the biggest boost SC has had in years. After only 2 months prior, showing gameplay that was working fine, and also even the Alpha, though not received well, was actually in a better state than the released game. Coincidence?? I find that hard to believe. My point for saying that, is to reiterate, DB has at the least given them a chance.
The wipe is a blessing!
Source: https://twitter.com/TheUngineer/status/1457060311484276738
PS if you're looking for your coffee cup, it's probably in the New Forest...
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/qpsf67/the_forest_is_back_thanks_for_the_great_patch_cig/
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/qpsf67/the_forest_is_back_thanks_for_the_great_patch_cig/hjx12c2/
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/qpsf67/the_forest_is_back_thanks_for_the_great_patch_cig/hjxoav9/
Both SC and ED have character creators that you can make look terrible.
It is odd isn't it...
Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/qqrmav/star_citizen_developer_plans_1000person/hk1yxwy/
Add in all the outsourcing to Turbulent, Firesprite etc, and, their burn rate is set to burn brighter and brighter, sucking up all the oxygen in the room.
I genuinely know nothing about business development, but something about these UK and German office deals does feel like a 'spending this year's budget to ensure next year's' act, rather than a hugely rational one. (At minimum, securing 2 expanded office spaces on a long-term basis, just as the dev world ponders the benefits of hybrid WFH scenarios, is... peculiar
Hmm, maybe CIG aren't really concerned with SC anymore. SC shouldn't take all that to be made. This is something else and they must have a lot of folks duped into whatever else they're doing. It's a good thing some people are happy with SC as it is now, since they probably have a bigger scam to run.
I'm starting to change my stance on the scam thing. A few people are enjoying SC, and while CIG keep taking money, they'll never change or get closer to finishing SC, but that may be the case anyways. So, now I wonder just how much money they can take without delivering. I'm also curious if any parents who support CIG have a tougher time trying to tell their kids to be honest. And hypocrisy to it's maximum if they even try to. Who cares?
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"Yamiks is great, Yamiks gives really good reviews" - some random SC backer on seeing Yamiks bash ED
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"Yamiks is terrible. He's doesn't understand game development" - the same SC backer on seeing Yamiks bash SC
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"this community has not seen anything yet" - 10 years into development
And "CIG will sell their tech to other companies" is always good for a laugh.
