Sally's last answer gives the impression that this stays that way, the programmer who made a mistake gets away with it, very god!!!
Elite Dangerous: FSD Reward Issues [reModifications & Experimentals] Follow Up.
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Just a side note, shooting the messengers will ultimately alienate a really useful and valuable line of contact. I for one appreciate the efforts (if not always the answers), so thanks guys and girls. It is at least clear now even if it is not the answer people wanted. I for one thank you for the efforts.
Those FSDs are supposed to be unique. They add jump range beyond what regular one can do (even with experimental effects added), but at the price of increased heat buildup - You want to have a choice of making your own effects, engineer regular module.
Being able to add experimental on those FSD's would be nice I suppose, but since they don't want us to do it, then ok, no reason to throw a fit about it.
Now, if they would decide to retroactively remove experimentals from previous double engineered rewards, that would be irritating.
With all due respect, I call bovine manure. More likely they have no idea why we can't add an experimental to them anymore and can't figure out how to fix it.
And y'all wonder why your number of players keeps dropping and dropping... Typical Fdev rubbish. Can't even implement DX12 support which would take a week or so to get it partially integrated, have to use 3rd party programs to fully utilize high end flight controls, can't get more than 25fps with a damn rtx3080, 4 Xeon 10 core processors, 228GB of ram, on foot... So much broken stuff, and I've got well over 2000 hours in this game... I mean, damn y'all... What the hell?
^This!
... just imo, Sally work here is the main reason why people in huge majority want to be polite even if deeply disapointed. Exceptions ofc exist, but without Sally it would be much, much worse. She is doing really good work here despite she must tell us sometimes bad news.
To those saying 'entitlement' 'boo' 'they are better than vanilla' etc etc.. You are missing the point.
I don't want anything for 'free' from a game I am playing. I like to work at my gains. I play in open 99% of the time because I like the risk. Went all the way to beagle point a month ago with the 5 FSD double engineered + mass manager drive I got a while back at the other CG.
I like to immerse myself in the world of Elite .. I've loved Elite since the days of Commodore 64. Finished Elite 3 - First Encounters about 4 times over the years. If you think Elite Dangerous is tough, you should try Elite 3.
This is about the universe continuity. If there is a sudden change from the established baseline (see the 5 FSD double engineered) I would expect a bit better lore than 'Server Error'.
I don't want anything for 'free' from a game I am playing. I like to work at my gains. I play in open 99% of the time because I like the risk. Went all the way to beagle point a month ago with the 5 FSD double engineered + mass manager drive I got a while back at the other CG.
I like to immerse myself in the world of Elite .. I've loved Elite since the days of Commodore 64. Finished Elite 3 - First Encounters about 4 times over the years. If you think Elite Dangerous is tough, you should try Elite 3.
This is about the universe continuity. If there is a sudden change from the established baseline (see the 5 FSD double engineered) I would expect a bit better lore than 'Server Error'.
I don't think they really care anymore about players opinion. They only choose the ones that sound like "Good job FDEV!" and "Nice work!" and that's about it. Otherwise this "problem" that we are discussing so long already could be easily fixed and the solution would actually wont break anything but will make everyone happy. Happy players => happy developers... but no... this is FDEV
I can see from the OP that any existing 5A V1 FSD with experimental effects will not have those effects removed. Can FDev confirm that all future purchased 5A V1 FSDs will be able to have experimental effects applied, or will the ability to add experimental effects to them be removed?
(I get what people are saying about not shooting messengers, or anyone, and I whole-heartedly agree - but at some point, is it not unreasonable to expect FDev to stop putting themselves in these ridiculous situations? They've turned a CG that everyone was excited for (that in turn caused it's own drama because it was completed too quickly!) into an episode of self-harm where literally no-one wins.)
(I get what people are saying about not shooting messengers, or anyone, and I whole-heartedly agree - but at some point, is it not unreasonable to expect FDev to stop putting themselves in these ridiculous situations? They've turned a CG that everyone was excited for (that in turn caused it's own drama because it was completed too quickly!) into an episode of self-harm where literally no-one wins.)
sallymorganmoore
Senior Community Manager : Elite Dangerous
Not true.
Said I wasn't going to reply to these but right now I actually need to on this.
Not true.
Guess that makes me a double loser thenI think, that people which ignored this CG are true winners
(dear lord, good that I thought, that exploration is more interesting, than trade for additional 3 range)
Saw the CG, travelled over 40K LY to get back to the bubble, signed up for CG - but then real life got in the way for a couple of days and by the time I could get back on the CG was over. sigh C'est la vie.
I was waiting before writing Odyssey review on Steam, to give FDev time to fix the game and to fix the way they do things. That's it, I am writing a negative review. This is not OK. If you'd fix it and allow experimentals I'd ignore it. But the fact FDev was not aware double engi modules could have experimentals is too much. It's all over the forum, the Discord, the entire community from day one. It's a huge fail that has been also handled poorly. Fantastic CM team is not enough I'm afraid
That is way too logical for some it seems.
FGuess that makes me a double loser then
Saw the CG, travelled over 40K LY to get back to the bubble, signed up for CG - but then real life got in the way for a couple of days and by the time I could get back on the CG was over. sigh C'est la vie.
I had only 2k to travel, but I thought "hey, yesterday I started it, no way to interrupt trip"
(always...always when I leave bubble they add something interesting, CG with good rewards, or thargoid invasion, or new storyline...xD)
YOU obviously care. Which is great. No one is saying otherwise. No one is attacking you.
However, I do not believe for a moment that the "higher ups" who are making these decisions care in the slightest. They make that clear by their actions.
I think the majority of people are extremely glad of your input here Sally. It's obvious you care enormously about trying to do the right thing.
While you're right .... eesh, that's a big worm can opener, especially when applied to the game as a whole!
Also, I think the problem a lot of people have with this is that they did exactly that, considered the reward (on the assumption that these FSDs would allow the same additional tweaking as the 5A), decided that yes, several days of trading was worth it ... and then, after the event, discovered the reward was not quite what they expected.
One thing I will add, and I guess this is something of a guilty confession from someone who's learned to rather perversely enjoy it when the forums kick off, as long as nobody got too seriously hurt ... this has been a real popcorn muncher.
Perhaps I've just failed to read the room. As always, the best experimental effects you can add to your forum drive are grade 5 thick skin and a modified sense of humour.
No offence ever intended and love to all (especially Sally).
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