Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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Yeah FWIW I don’t get a kick out of seeing Mike busting blood vessels. I feel like he should step away from SC every time I see it.
But his bug rage vids do underline that SC isn't ready for prime time. (IE to be played at volume, daily, as a 'pro' streamer would. Or used as a base for classic challenges like Mike's 'hard core' playthrough attempt). His "worst game ever" style quotes are just the hyperbolic accents on that underlying truth.
His other rants about P2W power creep, or perpetually missed deadlines or whatever, just underline SC's longer-form issues. Only someone who's tracked the project for that long can really tease them out, or get that annoyed about them. (His rage just has that extra stressy spin to it because he's hitched his hobby-livelihood to the project via streaming etc).
Like, all told, I don't think he loses his rag over 'nothing'. He loses his rag over those things. And they're often things that are worth highlighting ¯\(ツ)/¯
Yeah I wish Mike would find something else he actually enjoys.
The problem is he calms down, the nightmare fades, and he believes in The Dream again.
The latest ISC is causing a bit of a scene on Spectrum...ship designers blatantly flogging the new ridiculously overhyped 'Carrack Killer' jpeg on video? Tut, tut
This is a good one
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People defending how long it takes to make a large ship.
I mean, right or wrong, they are still agreeing how long it takes. If only they could apply a tiny bit a logic and extrapolate what that actually means for SC and those ships.
I think some of them just look at everything in isolation.
Its ok if it takes 2 years for a large ship, i can wait 2 years.
Its ok if server meshing tier 0 comes in a year, i can wait a year.
Its ok if a system takes a year or two to implement, i can wait a couple of years.
If they only looked at everything that needs doing at once, then they might start to get a bit nervous about how much more time and money CIG really need.
Capital / large ship concerns after todays SCL - Star Citizen Spectrum
During todays SCL stream I recall JC saying it takes about 1-2 years to finish large/capital ships and get them into the PU … so with a little rough math we are looking at close to 20 years to fill...
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People defending how long it takes to make a large ship.
I mean, right or wrong, they are still agreeing how long it takes. If only they could apply a tiny bit a logic and extrapolate what that actually means for SC and those ships.
I think some of them just look at everything in isolation.
Its ok if it takes 2 years for a large ship, i can wait 2 years.
Its ok if server meshing tier 0 comes in a year, i can wait a year.
Its ok if a system takes a year or two to implement, i can wait a couple of years.
If they only looked at everything that needs doing at once, then they might start to get a bit nervous about how much more time and money CIG really need.
but that would never happen in real life. ED and SC are "simulators", not arcade games from the 80s. I agree that there could be a button to enter quickly, in SC there are small boats, which have the cabin near the entrance, which are just as
Quick to enter the ER. But the mission of space simulators is to make it a more realistic sci-fi experience, not a game room. if you want to play arcade game play space invaders.
you gotta work for those station kills now. and bless his heart, he jumped in a turret
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5pJmtG-jvw
What does real life have to do with it? They are games, sim type games, but still games.
I've played ETS and ATS a lot, which are sims. They have a quick park option, that doesn't exist in real life either.
Would you say to an ETS player if they use the quick park option they should play a truck based arcade game instead?
Get out of here with that horse manure.
If you look at everthing that needs doing, It makes you wonder what CIG has been doing for the last 9 years!
Here lies the paradox, stemming from the dichotomy between "sim-like" attributes of SC, for example detailed interiors with living quarters and so on, and its "arcade-like" attributes like arcade physics and player movement, very basic and simplified flight model, short TTK... It wants to be all of these things at once, which of course leads to constant failure to deliver.
They've had 4 people making ships, 4 making planets and the other 600 odd are in marketingIf you look at everthing that needs doing, It makes you wonder what CIG has been doing for the last 9 years!
Point of order reference this: I think it generally is looked down on (but not vocally) by the community as a whole, seen as the Multiplayer Mod disables the 'park easy' options and theres never any beef around it.
Damn purists.
On a sidebar, have you tried the proper multiplayer mod?
Nah, i just want to chill when playing ETS. Not have to deal with other idiots weaving in and out of traffic. That's my job!
That could very well be true!!They've had 4 people making ships, 4 making planets and the other 600 odd are in marketing
Since we are giving examples of simulators with “cheat” features… I would like to point you all to DCS. A somewhat hardcore simulator that not only have and arcade mode (that simplifies control scheme and fly dynamics) but also has a button that allows pilots to get the plane/helicopter ready to flight by automatically performing the startup procedure of said vehicle
Is all about target audience vs profit… Eagle Dynamics wants to cater to that hardcore sim fans but also wants a viable product that can be enjoyed by anyone… and the end of the day that AIM-120/AIM-9 doesn’t care if you’re flying with a full set of virpil controls or with a XBOX controller
Me too.
