Exactly. May. Unless you visit them personally, you cannot know for sure.
To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?
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Robert Maynard
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Quite.
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Lost packets can cause the same effect. It's peer to peer. The peer cannot be controlled by FDev. FDev cannot know for sure whether it's intentional or an unlucky streak of outage events.
Hence, unless FDev has a very strong case, they won't ban the logger.
As such, yes, blocking is easier.
That's why I always recording my encounters and asking Frontier for opinion if I have any doubts
Does a video show what happened on the other side? No. Videos can also be doctored to show only the desirable facts.That's why I always recording my encounters and asking Frontier for opinion if I have any doubts
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I never said i cheat. Nor would I cheat either.
Since when is it bannable to play with an unstable internet connection?
Robert Maynard
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P2P connections can also be terminated by the player making the video, if they choose to do, so using trivially available PC utilities....
I think logs from Frontier servers can help to answer most of these questions
Robert Maynard
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Indeed - and if the issue was easily identified from the logs, to a proof standard acceptable to Frontier, then it'd likely be a non-issue, as players engaging in it would be dealt with accordingly.
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Oh well done focusing on a sentence that has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.
However, regardless of what FDev says about the matter, combat logging is very much a part of the game. They chose to get their multiplayer solution at El Cheapo as a result there's nothing in the game code that prevents it. In other words: the game allows it.
I could try to combat log in FFXIV but my character would remain online long enough for anything or anyone to kill me, here the game actively prevents combat logging
I mean they can call it an exploit but that doesn't change the fact that the choices they made when building the game meant there would be no way to prevent people avoiding defeat by simply killing the client or "pulling the plug"
Now as far as I know simply logging out of the game is still allowed, there's a timer (because that's something they can enforce client side) so it might not save you but it remains a possibility.
Yea, right.
So this was posted here on the forums:
A player, in cqc, had a bad connection and they were lagging all over the place, they were reported for cheating, they were banned (most likely it was an automated response or a hasted decision)
The player appealed through support and after investigation the ban was lifted.
The point being: you cannot ban someone without solid evidence. It's not good for the business.
And it's very hard upto impossible to obtain solid evidence that a disconnect was a voluntary action or was the result of a crash, internet hiccup or some other event outside of player control
Honestly, Elite does not have what i would call stable clients.
Both Horizons and Odyssey are crashing alot (sometimes due to the server connection in AWS or other FDEV infrastructure glitches)
So while reporting loggers is the right thing to do, sometimes is just better to block them. Saves from the future trouble (not fun to play with or against someone with a bad or unstable connection)
did you read the rest of the posts below?
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Like i said, Frontier has more tools to investigate a situations and judge them correctly.
My router could crash or reboot, my internet could go down, a short could take out my power.
FDev decided to go with P2P, a protocol that was designed for file transfers, for their multiplayer and they did not consider the possibility of combat logging or did not care either way combat logging is only possible because of choices made during the creation of the game. It is therefore very much a part of the game since it is the code that makes it possibly. Undesirable perhaps but still made possible by the way the game was coded.
Again any decently designed multiplayer game can easily prevent it server side. P2P however doesn't have a game server...
What part of "part of the game code" do you not understand?
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