To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?

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Not so simple, at last year this time I was having severe issues with my ISP, like connection suddenly degrading, connection lost, connection very unsteady. It caused very "funny" Elite sessions, and whatever. (Problem was that they had more customers than capability in my area, an answer I finally managed to get from their tech support). Had any of those severe issues happened during combat, I would have classed as bad clogger. Nowadays said issues are over, I got fed up and changed the isp.
Don't play in Open if your Internet is that bad.

Seriously, it's not made for bad Internet.
 
People think fdev investigates clogging accusations? I suspect otherwise. But that aside it seems we have moved off into clogging/mlogging arguments now.
Neither "problem" effects my gameplay.

Been accused of it by a member that pretended to be pirate and just ganked everyone that heaved to for them instead of trying to take any cargo, but that is my only experience with clogging/mlogging. Never actually witnessed it, but then I don't RP as a sociopath in game so....
 
Don't play in Open if your Internet is that bad.

Seriously, it's not made for bad Internet.
Usually that net connection when it got bad was so bad that even web surfing was made for that :D Problem was that said connection would do the trick suddenly and without warning. At point good going, at second point just garbage. Wasn't very fun at all. My point is that we really cannot be sure if every sudden drop really is clog.
 

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Usually that net connection when it got bad was so bad that even web surfing was made for that :D Problem was that said connection would do the trick suddenly and without warning. At point good going, at second point just garbage. Wasn't very fun at all. My point is that we really cannot be sure if every sudden drop really is clog.
That's your problem I'm afraid.

You should not be playing any online game at all in that kind of situation. Sorry, but you're really just forcing your own awful ping on everyone else at that point.

Pretty selfish if you think about it.

Glad you changed your ISP, sounds like you were getting ripped off.
 
No you wouldn't.

FDev would have investigated any reports of Clogging and uncovered the issues your ISP was having. Meanwhile you could refute any public accusations by referencing those same issues, the contact you'd had with your ISP and any contact you had from FDev.

It is incredibly simple.
Uncovered? Really, they did not have officially any issues. I checked from their own issue center. Only after I publicly started ridiculing their marketing at their FB pages, I managed to get contact to real tech people, not just standard customer "service". And then came the real answer. Too many customers, too little capacity at their 4g network.
 

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People think fdev investigates clogging accusations? I suspect otherwise. But that aside it seems we have moved off into clogging/mlogging arguments now.
Neither "problem" effects my gameplay.

Been accused of it by a member that pretended to be pirate and just ganked everyone that heaved to for them instead of trying to take any cargo, but that is my only experience with clogging/mlogging. Never actually witnessed it, but then I don't RP as a sociopath in game so....
Pro tip: Do not even think about "roleplay" in an online mode where you can run into anyone and everyone.

Nobody is obligated to respect anyone's RP.

It's a game with spaceships, armed with guns. It's absurd to expect people not to use those guns.
 
Yes we can be sure. It is very easy for anyone who has your IP address - e.g. the developers of the game you're playing - to then send an email to your ISP to confirm said issues... or even easier, they could just google all that information.
Assuming said company works honestly. And assuming that say email from Fdev would be forwarded to their tech people, not just to so called customer service.
Both kind of assumptions I think would have been wrong. Considering my experiences at being their paying customer. For me getting real answers took that public ridicule, long discussion with customer service (and them trying to sell me new modem), untill I said "hey lets stop playing now, I myself study in polytechnic network engineering, I do know that your answers are not going to work, tested them all ready." At that point they connected me to their real network people. And that guy finally got me an honest answer.

Real issue of course was the pandemic. Before that, their network in this area was good enough. But suddenly thousands of people are staying home, streaming videos from netflix, remote studying, conferencing, gaming and so on. Load just goes to the point where their el-cheapo infrastucture just cannot cope anymore. That of course did not stop them marketing their internet connections at same area, no way....
 
Real issue of course was the pandemic. Before that, their network in this area was good enough. But suddenly thousands of people are staying home, streaming videos from netflix, remote studying, conferencing, gaming and so on. Load just goes to the point where their el-cheapo infrastucture just cannot cope anymore. That of course did not stop them marketing their internet connections at same area, no way....
My county saw it coming three years ago and invested in a fiber infrastructure after 20 years of my former ISP (using slow ADSL, now 4G) doing diddly squat. Now have 1.0Gbit/s fiber and the former 4G ISP lost 10k customers.
 
Assuming said company works honestly. And assuming that say email from Fdev would be forwarded to their tech people, not just to so called customer service.
Both kind of assumptions I think would have been wrong. Considering my experiences at being their paying customer. For me getting real answers took that public ridicule, long discussion with customer service (and them trying to sell me new modem), untill I said "hey lets stop playing now, I myself study in polytechnic network engineering, I do know that your answers are not going to work, tested them all ready." At that point they connected me to their real network people. And that guy finally got me an honest answer.

Real issue of course was the pandemic. Before that, their network in this area was good enough. But suddenly thousands of people are staying home, streaming videos from netflix, remote studying, conferencing, gaming and so on. Load just goes to the point where their el-cheapo infrastucture just cannot cope anymore. That of course did not stop them marketing their internet connections at same area, no way....
theoretical situation:
Space Fight. Two ship shooting each other. One loses his shields trying to wake. Gromed. Hull 10%. Stopped taking damage. Disappears.
Coincidence?
 
yes but if so, frontier can verify this,
you also have the option to contact with your opponent via friend request , explain the situation and make a re-mach or something.
Latter one would have been more workable way. Only thing Frontier would see would have been either degrading or sudden loss of connection. Especially latter would have been same as disconnecting net manually.

But yeah I do believe most of sudden dropouts are clogging events, but not all of them.
 
Yes we can be sure. It is very easy for anyone who has your IP address - e.g. the developers of the game you're playing - to then send an email to your ISP to confirm said issues... or even easier, they could just google all that information.
total . Any ISP releasing your details to a non policing authority would be in breach of GDPR. The best they could get from the ISP would be in relation to any bandwidth issues on the day and time in question. Even with that information, it would be useless. The connection can be bad in so many many places. Contention issues just for a plain example. Just because the ISP says the bandwidth was fine, does not infer that the connection I'm operating on is not contended by 10 other households.
 
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